Just s an aside, the BBC's websites live text on football transfer deadline day has had 10 million hits apparently.
The Ratings Thread (Part 52)
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Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“New Strictly lineup is definitely the worst I've seen from it in years. I thought Vanessa Feltz was bad but some of those others are proper D or Z listers. Maybe they overspent on the cast last year so had to save money this time, I dont know, but this is an uninspiring lineup in terms of name value.”
“New Strictly lineup is definitely the worst I've seen from it in years. I thought Vanessa Feltz was bad but some of those others are proper D or Z listers. Maybe they overspent on the cast last year so had to save money this time, I dont know, but this is an uninspiring lineup in terms of name value.”
If you think Strictly needs 'big names' to flourish, you've clearly never watched the show.
The whole point of the show is getting to know the celebrities - and some of SCD's biggest names are people who either had minimal public exposure, or virtually zero.
'Name value' counts for nothing. Where the show will stand or fall is in the characters it generates. Like every reality show, it functions on types, and the more personality a contestant has, the better. And we shan't know any of that until a few weeks into the series.
Originally Posted by pieboyjr:
“According to this article, viewers will now also be able to vote for free on the Strictly website.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23931148”
“According to this article, viewers will now also be able to vote for free on the Strictly website.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23931148”
Interesting. Perhaps it's intended to help entice more families to watch as parents encourage their vote-keen teenagers to avoid X Factor's premium phonelines? If I'm honest I think the impact on figures will end up being minimal though.
I'm not sure how I feel about the line-up. On one hand it's undoubtedly missing a headline name - for example Rebecca Adlington(!) - but on the other hand there's a lot of folks well known within their fields - a Rugby World Cup winner, two high-profile daytime TV presenters, Alexander McQueen's successor at Givenchy, a Dragon, and one of the stars of Waterloo Road back from when it was watchable. In any case, I think the format is probably strong enough to cope with the line-up being C-list rather than B-list - even despite Sir Bruce's unfortunately timed comments to the contrary today.
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Just s an aside, the BBC's websites live text on football transfer deadline day has had 10 million hits apparently.”
“Just s an aside, the BBC's websites live text on football transfer deadline day has had 10 million hits apparently.”
I'd be willing to bet that a hell of a lot of those aren't unique. Wonder how Sky Sports News will fare? It's definitely the most exciting deadline day I can think of since 2008.
Hopefully Corrie gets some good ratings tomorrow, the episodes tonight were the best realistically acted in any soap and extremely emotional.
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“If you think Strictly needs 'big names' to flourish, you've clearly never watched the show.
The whole point of the show is getting to know the celebrities - and some of SCD's biggest names are people who either had minimal public exposure, or virtually zero.
'Name value' counts for nothing. Where the show will stand or fall is in the characters it generates. Like every reality show, it functions on types, and the more personality a contestant has, the better. And we shan't know any of that until a few weeks into the series.”
“If you think Strictly needs 'big names' to flourish, you've clearly never watched the show.
The whole point of the show is getting to know the celebrities - and some of SCD's biggest names are people who either had minimal public exposure, or virtually zero.
'Name value' counts for nothing. Where the show will stand or fall is in the characters it generates. Like every reality show, it functions on types, and the more personality a contestant has, the better. And we shan't know any of that until a few weeks into the series.”
Ultimately having the right characters matters. But initially to get press coverage and to get people to tune into the show in the first place, it certainly helps having bigger names and well know celebrities to draw that initial interest. Otherwise shows like SCD and others wouldn't fork out the money they have done in the past to bag the 'big names'. The producers know full well that it's the big names that helps to generate interest in the show for the launch among viewers and also in the media.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Hopefully Corrie gets some good ratings tomorrow, the episodes tonight were the best realistically acted in any soap and extremely emotional.”
“Hopefully Corrie gets some good ratings tomorrow, the episodes tonight were the best realistically acted in any soap and extremely emotional.
”
Agreed, Corrie was at its absolute best tonight. Incredibly moving set of episodes.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Hopefully Corrie gets some good ratings tomorrow, the episodes tonight were the best realistically acted in any soap and extremely emotional.”
“Hopefully Corrie gets some good ratings tomorrow, the episodes tonight were the best realistically acted in any soap and extremely emotional.
”
I find that hard to believe. Everything is done at factory speed on "Coronation Street" they have to produce too many episodes too often too quickly like the rest of the soaps to be anything of real dramatic quality or pause. The soaps could be really powerful again if the weren't on so much.
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“I find that hard to believe. Everything is done at factory speed on "Coronation Street" they have to produce too many episodes too often too quickly like the rest of the soaps to be anything of real dramatic quality or pause. The soaps could be really powerful again if the weren't on so much.”
“I find that hard to believe. Everything is done at factory speed on "Coronation Street" they have to produce too many episodes too often too quickly like the rest of the soaps to be anything of real dramatic quality or pause. The soaps could be really powerful again if the weren't on so much.”
By the sounds of it you did not watch it then. The acting of David Nielson was excellent, you really felt sorry for him. Corrie is on form at the moment.
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“If you think Strictly needs 'big names' to flourish, you've clearly never watched the show.
The whole point of the show is getting to know the celebrities - and some of SCD's biggest names are people who either had minimal public exposure, or virtually zero.
'Name value' counts for nothing. Where the show will stand or fall is in the characters it generates. Like every reality show, it functions on types, and the more personality a contestant has, the better. And we shan't know any of that until a few weeks into the series.”
“If you think Strictly needs 'big names' to flourish, you've clearly never watched the show.
The whole point of the show is getting to know the celebrities - and some of SCD's biggest names are people who either had minimal public exposure, or virtually zero.
'Name value' counts for nothing. Where the show will stand or fall is in the characters it generates. Like every reality show, it functions on types, and the more personality a contestant has, the better. And we shan't know any of that until a few weeks into the series.”
SCD usually do well for names and manage to attract decent contestants. It isn't a show that usually gets ridiculed for 'who?' in the way that the other shows do. But this line up is poor by their standards, they just seem to have cast the future Celebrity Big Brother contestants (except in the case of Vanessa Feltz).
It will still do well but I can't see it having the clear run its had for the last year or two. It may struggle to hold up as well against a revitalised X Factor, should they clash.
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“I find that hard to believe. Everything is done at factory speed on "Coronation Street" they have to produce too many episodes too often too quickly like the rest of the soaps to be anything of real dramatic quality or pause. The soaps could be really powerful again if the weren't on so much.”
“I find that hard to believe. Everything is done at factory speed on "Coronation Street" they have to produce too many episodes too often too quickly like the rest of the soaps to be anything of real dramatic quality or pause. The soaps could be really powerful again if the weren't on so much.”
Usually you're right, but it was incredibly powerful tonight, because of some brilliant acting and a realistic storyline that seems to have hit home with many people. I suggest you give it a watch through curiosity.
ITV 5 minute breakdown from Saturday (inc +1):
18:00 - 1.80
18:05 - 1.94
18:10 - 2.00
18:15 - 2.15
18:20 - 2.50
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18:25 - 2.24
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18:30 - 2.43
18:35 - 2.67
18:40 - 2.47
18:45 - 2.51
18:50 - 2.83
18:55 - 2.98
19:00 - 3.83
19:05 - 4.11
19:10 - 3.69
19:15 - 4.00
19:20 - 3.88
19:25 - 4.09
19:30 - 4.44
19:35 - 4.06
19:40 - 4.50
19:45 - 4.75
19:50 - 4.91
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19:55 - 5.27
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20:00 - 7.61
20:05 - 8.61
20:10 - 8.81
20:15 - 7.82
20:20 - 9.45
20:25 - 9.36
20:30 - 8.41
20:35 - 9.97
20:40 - 10.10
20:45 - 9.85
20:50 - 8.84
20:55 - 10.06
21:00 - 10.28
21:05 - 8.98
21:10 - 9.56
21:15 - 9.49
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21:20 - 5.76
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21:25 - 5.77
21:30 - 6.10
21:35 - 6.05
21:40 - 5.22
21:45 - 5.56
21:50 - 5.85
21:55 - 5.15
22:00 - 5.29
22:05 - 5.00
22:10 - 5.14
22:15 - 4.01
Absolutely rotten for the first 30 mins of Stepping Out, they really dragged the average down. Interestingly it was pretty consistent after that until the final 10/15 mins when some XF viewers started tuning in early. Nice growth throughout the first hour of XF. No idea why it tailed off a bit after 9pm but it (and BGT) always seem to peak around 9pm-ish and tail off, the same has happened with the past 2 XF launches that have aired in the same slot. Decent breakdown for Through The Keyhole, holding above 5m throughout (except when it ended earlier than the end of the last 5 minute chunk). Interestingly enough it does seem to support what a few people have said that it felt a bit too long, the first 30 mins held up really well before it tailed off a bit towards the end. It does bode reasonably well for next week though.
18:00 - 1.80
18:05 - 1.94
18:10 - 2.00
18:15 - 2.15
18:20 - 2.50
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18:25 - 2.24
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18:30 - 2.43
18:35 - 2.67
18:40 - 2.47
18:45 - 2.51
18:50 - 2.83
18:55 - 2.98
19:00 - 3.83
19:05 - 4.11
19:10 - 3.69
19:15 - 4.00
19:20 - 3.88
19:25 - 4.09
19:30 - 4.44
19:35 - 4.06
19:40 - 4.50
19:45 - 4.75
19:50 - 4.91
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19:55 - 5.27
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20:00 - 7.61
20:05 - 8.61
20:10 - 8.81
20:15 - 7.82
20:20 - 9.45
20:25 - 9.36
20:30 - 8.41
20:35 - 9.97
20:40 - 10.10
20:45 - 9.85
20:50 - 8.84
20:55 - 10.06
21:00 - 10.28
21:05 - 8.98
21:10 - 9.56
21:15 - 9.49
----------------
21:20 - 5.76
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21:25 - 5.77
21:30 - 6.10
21:35 - 6.05
21:40 - 5.22
21:45 - 5.56
21:50 - 5.85
21:55 - 5.15
22:00 - 5.29
22:05 - 5.00
22:10 - 5.14
22:15 - 4.01
Absolutely rotten for the first 30 mins of Stepping Out, they really dragged the average down. Interestingly it was pretty consistent after that until the final 10/15 mins when some XF viewers started tuning in early. Nice growth throughout the first hour of XF. No idea why it tailed off a bit after 9pm but it (and BGT) always seem to peak around 9pm-ish and tail off, the same has happened with the past 2 XF launches that have aired in the same slot. Decent breakdown for Through The Keyhole, holding above 5m throughout (except when it ended earlier than the end of the last 5 minute chunk). Interestingly enough it does seem to support what a few people have said that it felt a bit too long, the first 30 mins held up really well before it tailed off a bit towards the end. It does bode reasonably well for next week though.
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“I find that hard to believe. Everything is done at factory speed on "Coronation Street" they have to produce too many episodes too often too quickly like the rest of the soaps to be anything of real dramatic quality or pause. The soaps could be really powerful again if the weren't on so much.”
“I find that hard to believe. Everything is done at factory speed on "Coronation Street" they have to produce too many episodes too often too quickly like the rest of the soaps to be anything of real dramatic quality or pause. The soaps could be really powerful again if the weren't on so much.”
Maybe watch tonight's episodes and then make judgments, or, y'know... don't, and continue blundering on with negative opinions based on experiences in the (probably very distant) past.
Coronation Street was just completely and utterly incredible tonight, deserves high numbers and MORE THAN demonstrated why it's been more or less top of the ratings for fifty five years. A couple of scenes in tonight's episodes will be featured in TV compilation shows for decades, and I certainly won't forget some of them.
As this story progresses I should imagine a lot of people who have followed Roy and Hayley will be incredibly touched by it, because the team went above and beyond tonight and are doing the characters and the illness total justice.
Hope it records a strong figure tomorrow.
I think Strictly will do just fine. To be honest, I thought Chelsee Healy would be awful when she was introduced on the launch show two years ago( I'm single and I'm ready to mingle) and she turned out to be a great dancer to watch. I thought Victoria Pendleton would be a great dancer and she turned out to have no rhythm. It is surprises like this that can make the show
Happy and sad stories should do well for ITV.
Tonight's Doc Martin was a wedding special, whilst on Wednesday's Corrie it's revealed that...
Tonight's Doc Martin was a wedding special, whilst on Wednesday's Corrie it's revealed that...
Spoiler
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Doc Martin may not get 8m but 7 million would still be good for it, as time shift will help push it a lot higher.”
“Doc Martin may not get 8m but 7 million would still be good for it, as time shift will help push it a lot higher.”
if that was me, I'd be castigated for deliberately underpredicting.
Doc should easily get 8m in the overnights, possibly more on a rather cool and dark autumnal night. Plus it is up against Motorway Cops getting 2.5-3m on BBC1.
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“
I loved his shows when I was young. I remember stumbling across his Madhouse on ITV in 1983 or 1984, and I watched all his subsequent BBC shows, even the summer repeats. I feel a bit sorry for him, because the scripts seemed to get a little bit weaker with every passing year.”
“
I loved his shows when I was young. I remember stumbling across his Madhouse on ITV in 1983 or 1984, and I watched all his subsequent BBC shows, even the summer repeats. I feel a bit sorry for him, because the scripts seemed to get a little bit weaker with every passing year.”
I guess he became a bigger star with the Saturday night primetime show on BBC1, but from very hazy childhood recollection, I think his Madhouse show on ITV was regarded as being better than the more middle of the road BBC offering. Not something you often find!
Better theme tune on ITV too, that Songs of Joy signature tune on BBC1 was naff.
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“Completely disagree, given the final last year may have included Louis Smith and Kimberley Walsh, but it also featured Dani Harmer and I'm pretty sure she wasn't an A lister when the show began. As mentioned, Kara Tointon was hardly that big a deal when she won it, and Victoria Pendleton was a big name and didn't do very much at all. Nicky Byrne was hardly that sensational either.
I like the line-up, Natalie Gumede fills the Kara Tointon role as mentioned, and Sophie Ellis-Bextor, I would say, is about as good as Kimberely Walsh, the general public know her and like her. Abbey Clancey and Rachel Riley are already all over the papers. Susanna Reid means Breakfast will talk about it all the time. And though the men aren't as exciting I reckon Mark Benton and Dave Myers will be really popular, they've got great personalities and people will like them.
And Brucie is still there, and Brucie is great.”
“Completely disagree, given the final last year may have included Louis Smith and Kimberley Walsh, but it also featured Dani Harmer and I'm pretty sure she wasn't an A lister when the show began. As mentioned, Kara Tointon was hardly that big a deal when she won it, and Victoria Pendleton was a big name and didn't do very much at all. Nicky Byrne was hardly that sensational either.
I like the line-up, Natalie Gumede fills the Kara Tointon role as mentioned, and Sophie Ellis-Bextor, I would say, is about as good as Kimberely Walsh, the general public know her and like her. Abbey Clancey and Rachel Riley are already all over the papers. Susanna Reid means Breakfast will talk about it all the time. And though the men aren't as exciting I reckon Mark Benton and Dave Myers will be really popular, they've got great personalities and people will like them.
And Brucie is still there, and Brucie is great.”
Strong female line up, but they have clearly struggled with the boys.
Not that it matters, folk will still tune in in their millions.
I wonder if this will is the final series of Doc Martin? Its been running for almost ten years and while its still a hit, I think that Clunes will likely end it sooner or later.
Does anyone know why they decided to do a series every two years?
Does anyone know why they decided to do a series every two years?
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“Completely disagree, given the final last year may have included Louis Smith and Kimberley Walsh, but it also featured Dani Harmer and I'm pretty sure she wasn't an A lister when the show began. As mentioned, Kara Tointon was hardly that big a deal when she won it, and Victoria Pendleton was a big name and didn't do very much at all. Nicky Byrne was hardly that sensational either.
I like the line-up, Natalie Gumede fills the Kara Tointon role as mentioned, and Sophie Ellis-Bextor, I would say, is about as good as Kimberely Walsh, the general public know her and like her. Abbey Clancey and Rachel Riley are already all over the papers. Susanna Reid means Breakfast will talk about it all the time. And though the men aren't as exciting I reckon Mark Benton and Dave Myers will be really popular, they've got great personalities and people will like them.
And Brucie is still there, and Brucie is great.”
“Completely disagree, given the final last year may have included Louis Smith and Kimberley Walsh, but it also featured Dani Harmer and I'm pretty sure she wasn't an A lister when the show began. As mentioned, Kara Tointon was hardly that big a deal when she won it, and Victoria Pendleton was a big name and didn't do very much at all. Nicky Byrne was hardly that sensational either.
I like the line-up, Natalie Gumede fills the Kara Tointon role as mentioned, and Sophie Ellis-Bextor, I would say, is about as good as Kimberely Walsh, the general public know her and like her. Abbey Clancey and Rachel Riley are already all over the papers. Susanna Reid means Breakfast will talk about it all the time. And though the men aren't as exciting I reckon Mark Benton and Dave Myers will be really popular, they've got great personalities and people will like them.
And Brucie is still there, and Brucie is great.”
agree with that, strictly could use another member of girls aloud and another member of westlife, but we want a bit of variety, sometimes I think we rate to much an ex pop group member on a reality show, wow its so in such from boyzone!! Rather than an individual. without doubt not the worst line up, not the best! Everyone knows strictly is up there in the celeb wishlist, so it has a high bench mark
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“I wonder if this will is the final series of Doc Martin? Its been running for almost ten years and while its still a hit, I think that Clunes will likely end it sooner or later.
Does anyone know why they decided to do a series every two years?”
“I wonder if this will is the final series of Doc Martin? Its been running for almost ten years and while its still a hit, I think that Clunes will likely end it sooner or later.
Does anyone know why they decided to do a series every two years?”
Maybe there isn't a new series at all, they're just repeating the 2011 one? Hand on heart, would anyone notice?
Originally Posted by Joe40:
“Happy and sad stories should do well for ITV.
Tonight's Doc Martin was a wedding special, whilst on Wednesday's Corrie it's revealed that...
”
“Happy and sad stories should do well for ITV.
Tonight's Doc Martin was a wedding special, whilst on Wednesday's Corrie it's revealed that...
Spoiler
I think you will find that was revealed in last night's episode
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“I find that hard to believe. Everything is done at factory speed on "Coronation Street" they have to produce too many episodes too often too quickly like the rest of the soaps to be anything of real dramatic quality or pause. The soaps could be really powerful again if the weren't on so much.”
“I find that hard to believe. Everything is done at factory speed on "Coronation Street" they have to produce too many episodes too often too quickly like the rest of the soaps to be anything of real dramatic quality or pause. The soaps could be really powerful again if the weren't on so much.”
You obviously didn't watch it then. Last night's second episode was Coronation Street at its absolute finest.
Originally Posted by James J:
“Maybe watch tonight's episodes and then make judgments, or, y'know... don't, and continue blundering on with negative opinions based on experiences in the (probably very distant) past.
Coronation Street was just completely and utterly incredible tonight, deserves high numbers and MORE THAN demonstrated why it's been more or less top of the ratings for fifty five years. A couple of scenes in tonight's episodes will be featured in TV compilation shows for decades, and I certainly won't forget some of them.
As this story progresses I should imagine a lot of people who have followed Roy and Hayley will be incredibly touched by it, because the team went above and beyond tonight and are doing the characters and the illness total justice.
Hope it records a strong figure tomorrow.”
“Maybe watch tonight's episodes and then make judgments, or, y'know... don't, and continue blundering on with negative opinions based on experiences in the (probably very distant) past.
Coronation Street was just completely and utterly incredible tonight, deserves high numbers and MORE THAN demonstrated why it's been more or less top of the ratings for fifty five years. A couple of scenes in tonight's episodes will be featured in TV compilation shows for decades, and I certainly won't forget some of them.
As this story progresses I should imagine a lot of people who have followed Roy and Hayley will be incredibly touched by it, because the team went above and beyond tonight and are doing the characters and the illness total justice.
Hope it records a strong figure tomorrow.”
Brilliant post. As per usual James I agree with everything you've said.
Originally Posted by James J:
“Maybe watch tonight's episodes and then make judgments, or, y'know... don't, and continue blundering on with negative opinions based on experiences in the (probably very distant) past.
Coronation Street was just completely and utterly incredible tonight, deserves high numbers and MORE THAN demonstrated why it's been more or less top of the ratings for fifty five years. A couple of scenes in tonight's episodes will be featured in TV compilation shows for decades, and I certainly won't forget some of them.
As this story progresses I should imagine a lot of people who have followed Roy and Hayley will be incredibly touched by it, because the team went above and beyond tonight and are doing the characters and the illness total justice.
Hope it records a strong figure tomorrow.”
“Maybe watch tonight's episodes and then make judgments, or, y'know... don't, and continue blundering on with negative opinions based on experiences in the (probably very distant) past.
Coronation Street was just completely and utterly incredible tonight, deserves high numbers and MORE THAN demonstrated why it's been more or less top of the ratings for fifty five years. A couple of scenes in tonight's episodes will be featured in TV compilation shows for decades, and I certainly won't forget some of them.
As this story progresses I should imagine a lot of people who have followed Roy and Hayley will be incredibly touched by it, because the team went above and beyond tonight and are doing the characters and the illness total justice.
Hope it records a strong figure tomorrow.”
Just to say that they are only actors ( or so it says on their equity cards) that are doing all that crying. So dont let it stay with you too long. Roy and Hayley haven't really spread their last bap.
Originally Posted by LW09:
“SCD usually do well for names and manage to attract decent contestants. It isn't a show that usually gets ridiculed for 'who?' in the way that the other shows do. But this line up is poor by their standards, they just seem to have cast the future Celebrity Big Brother contestants (except in the case of Vanessa Feltz).
It will still do well but I can't see it having the clear run its had for the last year or two. It may struggle to hold up as well against a revitalised X Factor, should they clash.”
“SCD usually do well for names and manage to attract decent contestants. It isn't a show that usually gets ridiculed for 'who?' in the way that the other shows do. But this line up is poor by their standards, they just seem to have cast the future Celebrity Big Brother contestants (except in the case of Vanessa Feltz).
It will still do well but I can't see it having the clear run its had for the last year or two. It may struggle to hold up as well against a revitalised X Factor, should they clash.”
I don't think the line-up is that radically different from any previous year, with the possible exception of last year's Olympic-tastic one. I would also dispute that bigger names generate that much interest: look at Series 8, where the supposedly biggest name, Michelle Williams from Destiny's Child, garnered no interest from the SCD audience and, to boot, couldn't really dance. The three who made the final were an 80s comedy actress-turned sex therapist; a long-standing low profile presenter; and a minor actress who hadn't been on television for years. And that final netted 14.28m. Speaks for itself.
I think I'm correct in saying there's a new line-up behind the scenes - and they, more than the celebs, are the ones who need to prove themselves. And it'll take time before we know. But they will have had to deal with the massive DQF cuts imposed on all BBC productions - Strictly has not been protected - and I'm sure money will play a part somewhere. What's strange about this line-up is that there is one more celeb than last year ... why?
I do agree, however, with your prediction that SCD will not rate as highly as it did last year. The Cowell hype machine is already in overdrive and the consensus is already that the show is an improvement on last year. Cowell has always hated Strictly and last year's chaos on TXF will have stung him into wanting revenge - Stepping Out wasn't commissioned by his ITV lapdogs for no reason, and he will ensure his show gets maximum publicity (albeit without his little chum Mr Clifford ...). So, either way, Strictly is starting out as the underdog this year. And, given the perilous state of BBC Entertainment and a new controller at BBC One, the heat will be really on the new production team to cut the mustard ...
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“Completely disagree, given the final last year may have included Louis Smith and Kimberley Walsh, but it also featured Dani Harmer and I'm pretty sure she wasn't an A lister when the show began. As mentioned, Kara Tointon was hardly that big a deal when she won it, and Victoria Pendleton was a big name and didn't do very much at all. Nicky Byrne was hardly that sensational either.
I like the line-up, Natalie Gumede fills the Kara Tointon role as mentioned, and Sophie Ellis-Bextor, I would say, is about as good as Kimberely Walsh, the general public know her and like her. Abbey Clancey and Rachel Riley are already all over the papers. Susanna Reid means Breakfast will talk about it all the time. And though the men aren't as exciting I reckon Mark Benton and Dave Myers will be really popular, they've got great personalities and people will like them.
And Brucie is still there, and Brucie is great.”
“Completely disagree, given the final last year may have included Louis Smith and Kimberley Walsh, but it also featured Dani Harmer and I'm pretty sure she wasn't an A lister when the show began. As mentioned, Kara Tointon was hardly that big a deal when she won it, and Victoria Pendleton was a big name and didn't do very much at all. Nicky Byrne was hardly that sensational either.
I like the line-up, Natalie Gumede fills the Kara Tointon role as mentioned, and Sophie Ellis-Bextor, I would say, is about as good as Kimberely Walsh, the general public know her and like her. Abbey Clancey and Rachel Riley are already all over the papers. Susanna Reid means Breakfast will talk about it all the time. And though the men aren't as exciting I reckon Mark Benton and Dave Myers will be really popular, they've got great personalities and people will like them.
And Brucie is still there, and Brucie is great.”
To be honest it feels to me like a line-up which really won't appeal to anyone under 30. I know Strictly has always been older skewing, but the likes of the Olympians, pop stars and Dani Harmer broadened the age range.
There's Abby Clancy, but I don't think she's exactly got a huge fanbase. I really don't think Kimberley Walsh and Sophie Ellis Bextor can be compared - one had a few hits over ten years ago but has now been forgotten, one was part of the most successful girl group of the century with 21 top tens singles, with a huge fanbase.
The average age of the celebrities seems older this year, I haven't worked out whether that's true, but there are plenty in their forties and fifties.
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“Just to say that they are only actors ( or so it says on their equity cards) that are doing all that crying. So dont let it stay with you too long. Roy and Hayley haven't really spread their last bap.”
“Just to say that they are only actors ( or so it says on their equity cards) that are doing all that crying. So dont let it stay with you too long. Roy and Hayley haven't really spread their last bap.”
Some CS viewers think it is a social documentary about life up here. Remember Hayley wants to jump ship from CS, the producers saw a ratings opportunity and brought in a cancer storyline - sadly it just reassured viewers that pancreatic cancer is almost certainly fatal.
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“If you think Strictly needs 'big names' to flourish, you've clearly never watched the show.
The whole point of the show is getting to know the celebrities - and some of SCD's biggest names are people who either had minimal public exposure, or virtually zero.
'Name value' counts for nothing. Where the show will stand or fall is in the characters it generates. Like every reality show, it functions on types, and the more personality a contestant has, the better. And we shan't know any of that until a few weeks into the series.”
“If you think Strictly needs 'big names' to flourish, you've clearly never watched the show.
The whole point of the show is getting to know the celebrities - and some of SCD's biggest names are people who either had minimal public exposure, or virtually zero.
'Name value' counts for nothing. Where the show will stand or fall is in the characters it generates. Like every reality show, it functions on types, and the more personality a contestant has, the better. And we shan't know any of that until a few weeks into the series.”
Agree with all your points entirely. What surprises me is the "it's a really weak line up this year" comments. Virtually every single one of this years contestants are known by some of the audience which means ALL are well known names. The line up is stronger than most I'm A Celebrity line ups yet no one ever complains about that. I am having delight in wondering which poor soul will be given to Anton Du Beke!
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