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Sorry if its been posted already but does anyone have the rating for the one show yestaday? Would like to see if it got a boost from the Strictly line up reveal thanks.
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Interesting. Perhaps it's intended to help entice more families to watch as parents encourage their vote-keen teenagers to avoid X Factor's premium phonelines? If I'm honest I think the impact on figures will end up being minimal though.
I don't see why the web format would be any more prone to failure than this new three minute voting window on The X Factor. Quote:
SCD usually do well for names and manage to attract decent contestants. It isn't a show that usually gets ridiculed for 'who?' in the way that the other shows do. But this line up is poor by their standards, they just seem to have cast the future Celebrity Big Brother contestants (except in the case of Vanessa Feltz).
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I guess he became a bigger star with the Saturday night primetime show on BBC1, but from very hazy childhood recollection, I think his Madhouse show on ITV was regarded as being better than the more middle of the road BBC offering. Not something you often find!
Better theme tune on ITV too, that Songs of Joy signature tune on BBC1 was naff. I never worked out why Les Dennis was billed as "Special Guest Star" on the Beeb when he was on every week. I'll say again the moment it all went wrong for Russ which is when his Christmas show in 1990 was on Boxing Day teatime, and then his next series in 1991 was on Fridays which was an awful night for BBC1 in those days. 1991 also saw the end of Les Dennis and Little and Large on the Beeb so it was a bit of a bonfire of variety stars that year, second only to 1994 when they axed Paul Daniels, Jim'll Fix It and That's Life. Everyone forgets The Russ Abbot Show came back on ITV in the mid-nineties and he did two series for them. Ted Rogers and that lot used to moan about how the Oxbridge lot were in charge and wanted alternative comedy but there were loads of old school comedians on ITV well into the nineties, they did An Audience With Jimmy Tarbuck in 1994 and Freddie Starr was doing series right up until 1998, and when Benny Hill died there was literally a contract in the post for a new series. Russ was another one. Quote:
Eastenders airing against 2 England matches during the next week so that will dent it back down again from any boost it gets. The big episode next week airs against England Vs Ukraine. Unfortunate timing really.
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There is absolutely no excuse for BBC1 showing Motorway Cops on a Monday night - indeed any night at 9pm. That sort of shit belongs on Pick TV.
Motorway Cops is a perfectly acceptable programme, it's been a part of BBC1's schedules now for nearly a decade (it began as X Cars in 1996) and ITV used to show just as much of this kind of thing, Police Camera Action used to fill every available slot. In fact there was that famous week during the 1996 Olympics it was on four times in a week. And it was no different to this. Putting together the schedule for any channel is just as much about damage limitation and getting through a night without wasting valuable content as it is about stringing together hit shows. We could just as easily slag off ITV for one of their main attractions tonight being a compilation of funny adverts. And two and a half hours of factual. Quote:
Yes I think Samuel is being a little premature in writing its obituary.
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I don't think the line-up is that radically different from any previous year, with the possible exception of last year's Olympic-tastic one. I would also dispute that bigger names generate that much interest: look at Series 8, where the supposedly biggest name, Michelle Williams from Destiny's Child, garnered no interest from the SCD audience and, to boot, couldn't really dance. The three who made the final were an 80s comedy actress-turned sex therapist; a long-standing low profile presenter; and a minor actress who hadn't been on television for years. And that final netted 14.28m. Speaks for itself.
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I think I'm correct in saying there's a new line-up behind the scenes - and they, more than the celebs, are the ones who need to prove themselves. And it'll take time before we know. But they will have had to deal with the massive DQF cuts imposed on all BBC productions - Strictly has not been protected - and I'm sure money will play a part somewhere. What's strange about this line-up is that there is one more celeb than last year ... why? For the second year (or maybe third, I think Moira Ross only did one year) in a row they've got a new Executive Producer. Louise Rainbow who most recently did Lets Dance For Comic Relief but has been around quite a while in various freelance positions. Jayne Stanger is Series Producing, having done the same role on the BBC2 spin-off for quite a while (these spin offs seem to be a stepping stone for many).
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I do agree, however, with your prediction that SCD will not rate as highly as it did last year. The Cowell hype machine is already in overdrive and the consensus is already that the show is an improvement on last year. Cowell has always hated Strictly and last year's chaos on TXF will have stung him into wanting revenge - Stepping Out wasn't commissioned by his ITV lapdogs for no reason, and he will ensure his show gets maximum publicity (albeit without his little chum Mr Clifford ...). So, either way, Strictly is starting out as the underdog this year. And, given the perilous state of BBC Entertainment and a new controller at BBC One, the heat will be really on the new production team to cut the mustard ...
If he were running entertainment commissioning at ITV, don't you think he'd be putting his own shows on air instead of helping ITV Studios win commissions? He'd probably have asked them not to poach senior staff from his company as well. Strictly is in good shape - I don't really see how it can be the underdog at this point. The success of X Factor's opening weekend doesn't damage Strictly at all and so long as they perform as they did last year it will still rate well. I think the numbers have slipped a little in the past couple of years but nothing major and I'd expect a similar pattern to unfold this year with a series average in a 5% range of last year. BBC entertainment has been lousy for years, controllers have come and gone and it has been through far more Exec changes than X Factor but it just keeps going steady. Quote:
Demographic Information for BBC1 and ITV for Monday 26th August to Sunday 1st September: http://postimg.org/image/rmacsoov3/full/
Top programmes for the week among 18-49 year olds from that list (excludes soaps, news and repeats) were: 1. The X Factor (Sun): 16.8 2. Through The Keyhole: 9.4 3. Celebrity MasterChef (Thu): 6.6 4. New Tricks: 5.4 5. Match Of The Day: 4.8 6. UEFA Super Cup: Chelsea v Bayern Munich: 4.8 7. Stepping Out: 4.6 8. Vera: 4.4 9. UCL: Arsenal v Fenerbahce: 4.1 10. Big School: 4.1 Note: Each number indicates the % of the UK 18-49 population. For e.g. 16.8% of 18-49 year olds living in the UK watched TXF (Sun) Brilliant result for Through The Keyhole - not only is the total number good, but it seems to be keeping the X Factor audience across the board, something ITV have often struggled to do. |
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Why do people constantly talk about Samuel as if he's not here? If you don't like his views, challenge them or ignore them! At least he is putting across views, whatever they are.
I agree about Samuel. It is quite nasty sometimes the way he is ridiculed or picked on. The ironic thing is he is picked on by people who write the same sort of stuff for the channel they support, except they don't see it. |
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Why do people constantly talk about Samuel as if he's not here? If you don't like his views, challenge them or ignore them! At least he is putting across views, whatever they are.
And why do feel the need to respond to something not addressed at you! I was merely responding to someone else's observation but in return these demented Samuel Protection Society folks see the need to act like they are his mother!The Chase will be back to normal levels by the end of the week. Now would you prefer if I post that instead - do I need to email my comments for pre-approval first! |
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Steve I love your posts. You are informative, direct without being rude or insulting and constructive and intelligent. I enjoy reading them very much.
I agree about Samuel. It is quite nasty sometimes the way he is ridiculed or picked on. The ironic thing is he is picked on by people who write the same sort of stuff for the channel they support, except they don't see it. |
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And why do feel the need to respond to something not addressed at you! I was merely responding to someone else's observation but in return these demented Samuel Protection Society folks see the need to act like they are his mother!
The Chase will be back to normal levels by the end of the week. Now would you prefer if I post that instead - do I need to email my comments for pre-approval first! |
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I agree about Samuel. It is quite nasty sometimes the way he is ridiculed or picked on. The ironic thing is he is picked on by people who write the same sort of stuff for the channel they support, except they don't see it.
Anyway, back to tonight and that 8pm offering on ITV was dire and deserves to rate accordingly. Frankly bored of the repackaging of old adverts into TV programmes. Boring. |
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So you say Steve shouldn't respond to something directed at him but you feel its perfectly acceptable to respond to a post about an individual, a person, that wasn't actually directed at you? Uhm. You see where I'm going with this don't you?
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Another of the cat protection league
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No. You need to get a life. Your self appointed moderation is a pain the backside. If Samuel feels upset at anything he knows what to do. You dont need to mother him, especially when most of the to and fro is harmless banter,
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Why are you responding to a post that isn't intended for you? I'm not a "mumsy or protector" I just detest nastiness and bullying. Having a joke like Robbie does is one thing. But you are not joking. You are deliberately being provocative.
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You keep banging on about this. He isn't 'picked on', instead his ill-informed and often factually incorrect missives are challenged. There is a difference.
Anyway, back to tonight and that 8pm offering on ITV was dire and deserves to rate accordingly. Frankly bored of the repackaging of old adverts into TV programmes. Boring. |
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You keep banging on about this. He isn't 'picked on', instead his ill-informed and often factually incorrect missives are challenged. There is a difference.
Anyway, back to tonight and that 8pm offering on ITV was dire and deserves to rate accordingly. Frankly bored of the repackaging of old adverts into TV programmes. Boring. |
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You can't seriously suggest they should have The Chase on year-round. Viewers aren't going to instantly return, seeing as presumably ITV was below a million in the 5pm slot last week with TOTT.
First "no one's reported the ratings - has X Factor already rated badly", "people are losing interest [in Doc Martin]"because it launched slightly below last series despite almost 3 million less people watching last night compared to Doc Martin's launch night last year and now this - Samuel, don't you realise these kind of comments kind of make you look a bit daft? Quote:
Quite surprised at those two being so high, and Vera and Stepping Out also being in the list.
I like Vera and I'm probably the only 16-34 who does
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Whatever. You really need to read your own posts if you detest nastiness. I think you now go on my ignore list. It's a shame because I do like reading some of your posts but really this whole self appointed moderation is turning you into a bit of a little Napoleon.
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Challenging a post that he writes is one thing. I have done it myself. It is the constant bitching about him when he hasn't posted anything that is not right. I agree, if he writes silly things then challenge him. But don't keep writing snide comments about him when he hasn't posted anything at the time.
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Brilliant result for Through The Keyhole - not only is the total number good, but it seems to be keeping the X Factor audience across the board, something ITV have often struggled to do.
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You keep banging on about this. He isn't 'picked on', instead his ill-informed and often factually incorrect missives are challenged. There is a difference.
Anyway, back to tonight and that 8pm offering on ITV was dire and deserves to rate accordingly. Frankly bored of the repackaging of old adverts into TV programmes. Boring. |
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Are you going to name and shame and provide examples or shall we leave the moderators to do their job ?
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Take on the Twisters was so desperately unpopular viewers were avoiding it like the plague and missed The Chase. It's surely only a matter of time until The Chase is back on top and reasserts superiority over Pointless.
When do the kids go back, tomorrow? That will surely help as HWC etc get back into their usual routines. Pointless is great, so finally we have new episodes and it's crushing it. |
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To be fair, Samuel is not ill-informed, I'd actually say quite the opposite. But that's what makes him a troll. He knows exactly what he is doing.
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What superiority? not sure that happens often.
Pointless is great, so finally we have new episodes and it's crushing it. |
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Its not going to do The Xtra Factor many favours though. It will be inserting to see if it holds those figures for the coming weeks. I have a feeling it will fall back to around 4m next week, although perhaps not with it being Proms week. But I can't see it staying in the 5m range.
Plus, it's produced by Fremantle so they'll not be too disappointed. They had an impressive four hours of primetime TV on Saturday night. Although the downside to this is that X Factor crushed Break The Safe which had been doing OK on BBC1 for a few weeks! Speaking of which - over in Australia, X Factor and Got Talent are airing head to head. 7 cancelled AGT last year only for 9 to pick it up and throw it on Sunday nights against XF on 7. So far XF is coming out on top with 1.3m-1.5m although AGT is no doubt denting it. AGT isn't doing too badly either with about 1.1m-1.2m and usually finishing 3rd for the week in non-news broadcasts, only after X Factor. Very competitive market out there - it's interesting how in some countries, commercial broadcasters see benefit in working around each other (The US to an extent) whereas in others it just seems to be all out war! |
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What superiority? not sure that happens often.
Pointless is great, so finally we have new episodes and it's crushing it. |
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