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The Ratings Thread (Part 52)
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Zac Quinn
12-09-2013
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Miranda series 3 is surely too recent? I can still remember the punchlines. Maybe Gavin & Stacey? Can't remember series one and two of G&S ever being repeated on BBC One.”

To answer my own query, Series One has never been repeated on BBC One. Series Two was given one repeat airing on BBC One, in the exact same Friday 21:30 slot I'm suggesting it for here, way back in 2008. Would not be at all surprised to see either series repeated on BBC One in the near future.
Hassaan13
12-09-2013
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Yes. There are two Mrs. Browns Boys this Christmas.

Don't tell Icedragon and Samuel that ITV soaps are doing well and EastEnders isn't. They won't believe you.

Citizen Khan may go to Friday nights with Miranda series 3 repeats perhaps?”

BIB 1: I heard (or was probably hallucinating) that they had already filmed it. If it's a two parter, Christmas Eve and Boxing Day probably seems right. It won't have a spot on Xmas Day as EastEnders & Call the Midwife will probably take that spot.

BIB 2: If Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber cannot accept the fact, that's their loss.

BIB 3: I'm not sure about Fridays. Big School has struggled a bit there. Mrs Brown's Boys and Miranda were coupled with each other on Monday nights in January, and were doing well there. I think Monday would be the best suit.

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“It means Cowell will be back in the UK next Autumn! ”

If it doesn't show any signs of improvement. XF does kind of need him.

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“NOOOOOOOOOO! Can't the American Immigration keep him there? Can we petition?”

We know you don't like Mr Cowell, but he holds together a show like X Factor.

Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Miranda series 3 is surely too recent? I can still remember the punchlines.”

MBB's most recent series is being repeated on Fridays so there's got to be some room for Miranda.

Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“In British terms this would equate to 6 million. American audiences are very fragmented as they have so much choice, though the same could be said of Britain now. If Coronation St had 8 million viewers in the eighties, then it would have been written off as dying and had been axed, now this is a very respectable audience.”

Thing is, American Idol increased in its first three series, rather than go backwards.

A lower TV audience here, X Factor managed better than 4m in series 3.

Given how much XF USA is mentioned in the press, how often the auditions are viewed on YouTube, I would have expected it to do better.
HughOS
12-09-2013
Originally Posted by welshfoxy:
“X Factor USA ratings from last night

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...8&postcount=35”

I hope I don't end up eating these words but those figures seem too low. Like, comically poor. I think I'll wait for the officials. But ouch, I hope I don't regret this post
JoshuaRy
12-09-2013
Mount Pleasant last night, anyone?

Be interesting to see how it rated given the new cast additions of Nigel Harman and Samantha Womack and the plug on ITV This Morning yesterday.
AcerBen
12-09-2013
Originally Posted by HughOS:
“I hope I don't end up eating these words but those figures seem too low. Like, comically poor. I think I'll wait for the officials. But ouch, I hope I don't regret this post ”

Yes some doubts about those figures on the other thread. They've got to be wrong.
Zac Quinn
12-09-2013
Call The Midwife bombed on Christmas Day last year. I think they'll just give that a sleepy slot on Boxing Day this time around, with Mrs Brown providing an alternative to Corrie in the 8pm hour where CTM died last year. If Mrs Brown is a two-parter, they'll stick the second episode on New Year's Day. MBB is far better suited to Christmas Day than CTM.

EDIT: Plus, they're probably going to want to squeeze Doctor Who into prime-time this Christmas Day, which means it'd be far easier to schedule 30 minutes of Mrs Brown than 75 minutes of CTM.

EDIT EDIT: Mrs Brown can't go before 9pm, silly me. That'll probably take the post-watershed place of The Royle Family, with Doctor Who going into CTM's slot from last year and something else in the 5pm hour.

So something like this looks likely at this stage:

5pm - News
5:15pm - TBC
6pm - Strictly
7:15pm - Doctor Who
8:15pm - EastEnders
9:15pm - Mrs Brown's Boys
9:45pm - TBC

With BBC One's annual special commissions going at tea-time and in the late-night slot.
Last edited by Zac Quinn : 12-09-2013 at 16:12
seansnotmyname@
12-09-2013
Originally Posted by HughOS:
“I hope I don't end up eating these words but those figures seem too low. Like, comically poor. I think I'll wait for the officials. But ouch, I hope I don't regret this post ”

Yeah, I'll wait and see until the officials before I gloat.

I'm firmly in the Cowell is evil camp, ruined a large swathe of music and TV in my eyes.

Doesn't seem a particularly likable chap er.

Boring sob-stories, helping being horribly rude fashionable, shite manufactured pop, and ruining the xmas charts.

Mind you the other Simon, is just as much to blame.
fodg09
12-09-2013
Some more context on what was a fairly horrendous return for the X Factor in the U.S (hardly a surprise considering how poor the first two seasons were even before factoring in the judging line up this year),
Quote:
“Fox led this second Wednesday in September in the household overnights, and it will have no trouble dominating in the demographics. But the third season-premiere of “The X Factor,” now featuring Demi Lovato, Kelly Rowland, Paulina Rubio and, of course, Simon Cowell was a huge disappointment at a 4.7 rating/8 share from 8-9 p.m. Comparably, that ranked second behind “Big Brother” on CBS (4.8/ 8), with erosion from the year-ago season-opener (6.7/11 for a two-hour installment on 9/12/12) of 28 percent. Keep in mind that competing ABC and The CW were in repeats last night and “The X Factor” faced “The Voice” on NBC on the year-ago evening.

Considering “The X Factor” debuted on Fox (on Wednesday 9/21/11) with an 8.7/14, a decline of this magnitude means that Fox could take a huge tumble this fall.”

http://www.tvmediainsights.com/forum...1#postid-53053
guestofseth
12-09-2013
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Citizen Khan may go to Friday nights with Miranda series 3 repeats perhaps?”

HIGNFY returns on the 4th, so Citizen Khan will probably air after that.
derek500
12-09-2013
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
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Never mind fantasy schedules, I want to see Derek's exhaustive viewing timetables, which I like to think are painstakingly compiled and duplicated. I assume you get really annoyed when you end up not liking a series and so have to write off your plans.”

Simple really. We start watching about 6.30pm each evening and watch about three or four 'TV hours'.

Apart from sport/major news, nothing is watched live and about 99% scripted.

We download pay shows ad free from Sky's catch-up and tend to watch those weekly, the day after transmission.

Longer timeslot shows like Midsomer, Vera, Poirot, George Gently etc. are stored and usually watched on wet afternoons!!

Tonight's schedule is Ray Donovan and we're going to start Hannibal (we've got all 13 episodes stacked) and possibly What Remains.

It's a very time efficient and methodical operation. But unlike many, it seems, we're not flicking around channels looking for something to watch.
Salv*
12-09-2013
Bloody hell, I expected X Factor USA to return with 8m+, or at the very least 6.5m. Under 5m is a massive embarrassment, it's like the equivalent to 2.5m here.... imagine, X Factor debuting to 2.5m here.
Dancc
12-09-2013
Meanwhile, Sons of Anarchy returned to US screens with an all time high of 5.87m (3.1 in the demo) for FX.

Once the consolidated data is in, the network expects it to become the top rated single programme in its history.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...s-high/202198/
Score
12-09-2013
That X Factor USA rating is wrong. It actually averaged 6.17m and a 2.1.

Still a really, really bad start though. It seems highly unlikely to come back after this run.
AcerBen
12-09-2013
Here we go, official ratings from Variety
http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/foxs...on-1200609041/

Quote:
“The singing competition, airing a single hour rather than its typical two, drew a 2.1 rating/7 share in adults 18-49 and 6.2 million viewers overall, according to Nielsen — down 25% in the demo from its first hour a year ago (2.8). It was down 38% from its two-hour average of last year (3.4).

“X Factor” was beaten head to head by the penultimate Wednesday episode of CBS’ summer series “Big Brother” (2.2/7 in 18-49, 6.7 million viewers overall).”

Jonwo
12-09-2013
Originally Posted by centauri72:
“I agree about the Avengers - indeed ITV from the 50s to the 70s was based around globally renowned adventure/thriller/fantasy series and could really do with another go at reviving this genre.

As for the Thunderbirds revival , it is apparently intended for both CITV and ITV in 2015:
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...o#.UjF2Jn_AGF4

(The headline refers only to CITV, but the main body mentions both channels).

Properly scheduled, there is no reason why (if the revival is good, and of course as yet who knows) this could not be a big hit for ITV. Unfortunately the last time they had the rights to a (really good) Gerry Anderson revival (New Captain Scarlet) they ruined it by chopping each episode in two and burying it in the middle of a Saturday am kid's show. Thunderbirds should be on at 7 pm on a Saturday night - we shall see if ITV are smart enough to do that.”

The Avengers aren't own by ITV, they're own by Studiocanal so it would have be a co-production with them, it would be interesting how they could update the Avengers formula because just copying it would be a disaster.

Thunderbirds I could will be fine, I'm not really bothered by the fact its CG as live action would have been very expensive.
wizzywick
12-09-2013
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Call The Midwife bombed on Christmas Day last year. I think they'll just give that a sleepy slot on Boxing Day this time around, with Mrs Brown providing an alternative to Corrie in the 8pm hour where CTM died last year. If Mrs Brown is a two-parter, they'll stick the second episode on New Year's Day. MBB is far better suited to Christmas Day than CTM.

EDIT: Plus, they're probably going to want to squeeze Doctor Who into prime-time this Christmas Day, which means it'd be far easier to schedule 30 minutes of Mrs Brown than 75 minutes of CTM.

EDIT EDIT: Mrs Brown can't go before 9pm, silly me. That'll probably take the post-watershed place of The Royle Family, with Doctor Who going into CTM's slot from last year and something else in the 5pm hour.

So something like this looks likely at this stage:

5pm - News
5:15pm - TBC
6pm - Strictly
7:15pm - Doctor Who
8:15pm - EastEnders
9:15pm - Mrs Brown's Boys
9:45pm - TBC

With BBC One's annual special commissions going at tea-time and in the late-night slot.”

If DA goes out on Christmas Day, so will CTM. Why? Because the BBC will not want DA to win Christmas Day. If CTM can dent DA and vice versa both shows will be in the 7m bracket again. That will be fine.

Perhaps this:

5.30 Strictly Come Dancing
6.30 Doctor Who
7.30 Call The Midwife
8.45 EastEnders
9.45 Mrs. Browns Boys
AcerBen
12-09-2013
Originally Posted by Score:
“That X Factor USA rating is wrong. It actually averaged 6.17m and a 2.1.

Still a really, really bad start though. It seems highly unlikely to come back after this run.”

As someone pointed out on other thread, So You Think You Can Dance has been doing 4-5 million and has been renewed. Though I would imagine that's a cheaper show to produce so.. I guess we'll see.

We shouldn't assume the figures won't go up - last season they went up a million or two on the launch show for some episodes.
Cestrian18
12-09-2013
Originally Posted by Score:
“That X Factor USA rating is wrong. It actually averaged 6.17m and a 2.1.

Still a really, really bad start though. It seems highly unlikely to come back after this run.”

That's an absolute disaster for XF, just a thought, did the fact that it started on September 11th have an impact (less people watching tv etc...) as that seems awful?
welshfoxy
12-09-2013
BREAKING NEWS: Big Brother beats X Factor

http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/foxs...on-1200609041/
Zac Quinn
12-09-2013
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“If DA goes out on Christmas Day, so will CTM. Why? Because the BBC will not want DA to win Christmas Day. If CTM can dent DA and vice versa both shows will be in the 7m bracket again. That will be fine.”

Call The Midwife didn't dent Downton last year. There wasnt even a clash. Downton's sub-7m figure was down to a full clash with EastEnders, which ended up the top-rated programme of the day. BBC One can dent Downton again this year without having to give up over an hour of valuable schedule time to a show which really isn't suited to Christmas Day.

Oh and Doctor Who will surely almost certainly win Christmas Day this year anyway.


Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Perhaps this:

5.30 Strictly Come Dancing
6.30 Doctor Who
7.30 Call The Midwife
8.45 EastEnders
9.45 Mrs. Browns Boys”

Strictly's too early.
wizzywick
12-09-2013
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Call The Midwife didn't dent Downton last year. There wasnt even a clash. Downton's sub-7m figure was down to a full clash with EastEnders, which ended up the top-rated programme of the day. BBC One can dent Downton again this year without having to give up over an hour of valuable schedule time to a show which really isn't suited to Christmas Day.

Oh and Doctor Who will surely almost certainly win Christmas Day this year anyway. ”

There wasn't a clash, but with both dramas on it affected figures for both DA and CTM and in the finals both shows had about 11 million viewers. There is no way that CTM won't be on Christmas Day if DA is. And why is Downton Abbey, a period drama, suited to Christmas Day, when Call The Midwife, a period drama, isn't?
wizzywick
12-09-2013
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Call The Midwife didn't dent Downton last year. There wasnt even a clash. Downton's sub-7m figure was down to a full clash with EastEnders, which ended up the top-rated programme of the day. BBC One can dent Downton again this year without having to give up over an hour of valuable schedule time to a show which really isn't suited to Christmas Day.

Oh and Doctor Who will surely almost certainly win Christmas Day this year anyway.



Strictly's too early.”

Not as early as Doctor Who was last year. On Christmas Day nothing is too early or too late. OFAH has even aired at 3.10pm!
H of De Vil
12-09-2013
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“It's all very exciting though! How on earth will it all get scheduled? Especially as MOTD2 now takes up the 10.20pm slot on BBC1 there isn't room to start a 90 minute drama on a Sunday at 9pm. Is there 8 weeks of The Paradise for series 2?

If so that would be 4 Oct - 27 November. Leaving 3and 4 December, 10 and 11 December and 18 and 19 December for Last Tango if they choose a Tuesday and Wednesday airdate. Could work! Last year the last two episodes of Last Tango aired on the Tuesday and Wednesday before Christmas. Re; airing at 8.30pm. George Gently usually airs at 8.30pm - 10.00pm. So there's no reason why Quirke wouldn't or why GG won't again. Doctor Who is often rated 12 by the BBFC but that doesn't stop BBC1 showing it at 6pm!

Out of interest though, what else have ITV got lined up to air before IAC starts? And what have they got for afterwards? I am aware DA and Bletchley Circle are airing soon but is there anything else of significance? I know Benidorm is due back soon. But will that air in Autumn, Winter or Spring?”

Breathless, Poirot
cylon6
12-09-2013
Hassaan!

I have some Wolfblood ratings for you. I've also DMd them to you.

Monday 281,500
Tuesday 282,000
Dancc
12-09-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Hassaan!

I have some Wolfblood ratings for you. I've also DMd them to you.

Monday 281,500
Tuesday 282,000”

Consistent!

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