Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Is, or should the opposite soap slot be a dumping ground for daytime type programming now?
ITV used to show forgettable filler here but have now got a strong slate of factual in these slots that often rate higher than the main event.”
And so do the BBC, Rip Off Britain and the like do perfectly well. How are these "daytime type programming" and the likes of The Dales, Cornwall with Caroline Quentin and so on not? Daytime ITV has plenty of those programmes like Ade In Britain and Saturday Farm. Same exact thing. ITV have plenty of consumer shows in those slots too, like Martin Lewis.
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“There are plenty of 7.30pm & 8.30pm slots in the schedule. If they got rid of some cooking shows.”
The old too many cookery shows chestnut, as heard on Points of View every five minutes. It's amazing how easy it is not to have to watch cookery shows. At the moment BBC1 are showing repeats of Nigel Slater because they're cost-effective programming in a crappy slot in midsummer. And Masterchef is hardly a bona fide here's-one-I-made-earlier cookery show, it's factual entertainment along the same lines as The Apprentice.
In the past broadcasters would run series once a week for thirteen weeks or so. These days series last the same length of time but are shown a couple of times a week over a briefer period.
It's ludicrous to suggest slots opposite Corrie have ever been a hotbed of originality, in the eighties and nineties it was equally cheap filler and programmes sent there to die like Tomorrow's World, Doctor Who and Top of the Pops. Probably the last series to do anything in a 7.30 slot was Watchdog twenty years ago, which got promoted out of it. People complain BBC1 have too much filler at 9pm, there'd be a lot more of it if they were having to spend more money at 7.30 when there's a much smaller audience about.
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Can't really read too much into that. Although the pilot was disappointing I still think C4 should have took the risk on it considering they made such a big deal about commissioning it - then it turned out to be just a pilot. They've pretty much done the same with the Danny Boyle show this week - made a big deal out of the announcement but it turns out it's just a pilot.”
I don't know what your issue is with pilots, they've got to make them regardless. If they then decide to televise them as well, so be it. Every channel does umpteen pilots, it's only C4 that tends to broadcast them on a regular basis. And Chickens is hardly taking a risk, the cast of The Inbetweeners in a show where they're basically playing the same characters.
Originally Posted by northlad:
“Not suprised Big School is a flop,just dont find it funny despite the great cast.I am sure it will keep dropping over the next weeks.which is a shame.The BBC just cant find the writers anymore.”
Originally Posted by derek500:
“I see Big School is co-written by Dawson Bros who also script that puppet show.”
Originally Posted by northlad:
“That tells you everything you need to know then.”
The Dawson Bros have also contributed to many other successful programmes, and they are just two of the writers of That Puppet Game Show. Big School is also co-written by the very famous and successful comedy writer and performer David Walliams.
To say the BBC can't find the writers anymore is a massive overexaggeration. Last Christmas four BBC1 sitcoms got enormous ratings in Miranda, The Royle Family, Mrs Brown and Outnumbered. OK, so it's not the huge number we had in the eighties but in previous Christmasses the comedy output consisted of various Last Ever Episodes of The Vicar of Dibley or Only Fools and virtually nothing else. Then you've got Peter Kay's new sitcom* and Matt Lucas' new series so clearly BBC1 are trying plenty and they're in a far better place than they were three or four years ago.
* Thrilled to see the Peter Kay repeat do virtually nothing because surely that suggests they might finally be overdoing them. Of course the McIntrye repeats on BBC1 are almost as bad (though they're not from 2001, nor the centrepiece of the evening), and excited to see that in just three weeks on Comedy Roadshow John Bishop has gone from a new act to top of the bill.
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Says a lot about The Voice when more people seem interested in the changes in the panel, rather than the contestants.”
Very good. No column inches at all about Sharon Osborne in the build-up to The X Factor, are there, it's all about last year's winner, whatsisname.
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“The One Show last week:
Mon 12th: <3.50m
Tue 13th: 3.50m (19.1%)
Wed 14th: 3.69m (20.1%)
Thu 15th: 3.49m (19.4%)
Fri 16th: <3.50m
Source: Broadcast”
The Top 100 tells us that Monday's got 3.14 million and Friday's got 3.07 million. Though as we know, the Friday episode certainly isn't always the lowest rated, before anyone plays the Evans card again, because Friday's Emmerdale is also the lowest rated.
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“The film The Queen, amusingly assigned to the Current Affairs table in Broadcast, collected 1.33m (10.0%) including +1 last Sunday from 16:35 on ITV.”
I hadn't noticed that. Christ almighty, this magazine is sloppy. I had noticed the BBC Studios ad which in huge letters promises that "we'll ensure you're show happens in style".
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Imagine Nick Knowles's House Party or Blind Date with Alex Jones.”
What would be wrong with Alex Jones doing Blind Date?She's a pleasant and popular personality, I like her. Davina does plenty of light entertainment and she hardly spent two decades treading the boards on the music halls, did she? She started as a model. Exactly the same as Alex Jones.
And when Noel arrived on Saturday nights loads of people slagged him off, and the BBC had worries about him, because he wasn't an established light entertainer like Brucie or Tarby but a DJ and presenter. So that's hardly a very good example.