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But Ant and Dec are only 37 - going by Sir Bruce they might have another 50 years left in them. Have BGT and IAC both got even another five years in them? I doubt it. Ant and Dec are not going to be at ITV forever.
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But Ant and Dec are only 37 - going by Sir Bruce they might have another 50 years left in them. Have BGT and IAC both got even another five years in them? I doubt it. Ant and Dec are not going to be at ITV forever.
I can see Ant & Dec signing another contract and continuing with BGT/I'm A Celebrity. Their own shows have never been as big as these shows and the BBC can't do light entertainment well. I just can't see them going to the BBC yet. |
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Noel had his biggest TV hit with House Party in 1991 when he was 42/43.
I can see Ant & Dec signing another contract and continuing with BGT/I'm A Celebrity. Their own shows have never been as big as these shows and the BBC can't do light entertainment well. I just can't see them going to the BBC yet. |
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DS need to sort their ratings articles out.
Just a though, seeing as Pointless has been in repeats since June, any chance they could ever swap it with Perfection for a while, until new editions return? |
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They are filming 3 celeb editions of Catchphrase, so I'll get in early and suggest one of these might go out on Christmas Day
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I don't know what your issue is with pilots, they've got to make them regardless. If they then decide to televise them as well, so be it. Every channel does umpteen pilots, it's only C4 that tends to broadcast them on a regular basis. And Chickens is hardly taking a risk, the cast of The Inbetweeners in a show where they're basically playing the same characters.
Also with comedy especially C4 have very few returning series at the moment (I can only think of Friday Night Dinner and the surely due the axe Peep Show) on the main channel, so adding another full series rather than a series of pilots might be the better risk to take. It's surely cheaper too to commission a 6 part series than 6 individual pilots. Pilot series are only worth while if they're consistently generating new series - but over the last couple of years they haven't been for C4. |
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Celebrity Big Brother: 1.64m inc. +1
Nicely up on the 1.46m that watched the equivalent episode last year.
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Without spoiling the cricket score, the editing team on Cricket On 5 have a very complicated hour coming up
(maybe even more so than the last game in Durham, which finished at 7.40pm). |
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BBC1 could fit mkore dramas in on Saturday nights if Casualy wasn't on for 40 weeks a year. Casualty is wallpaper and gets a solid 4/5m. But imagine that BBC1 just tried something else there for a few weeks and it could get an even bigger audience. That's what they should be doing.
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I do not agree that Casualty is 'wallpaper'. Regardless, any drama that replaced a portion of Casualty's run would almost certainly be more expensive, meaning that not all the gap could be filled. Therefore extra money would be required to fill slots; money the BBC does not have spare at the moment.
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Without spoiling the cricket score, the editing team on Cricket On 5 have a very complicated hour coming up
(maybe even more so than the last game in Durham, which finished at 7.40pm). EDIT: Common sense has been ignored and C5 have been saved. EDIT EDIT: Though C5 might still have to have the celebrations very close to live. |
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Not sure why "I Love My Country" is going down so badly in the ratings. Its fairly bland but not a disaster show. Perhaps the format needs changing up but it could succeed given the right slot during the week.
"That Puppet Game Show" may have sounded ok in a pitch to an executive but its delivery is not sharp enough. I think a complete comedy show is needed with a good scriptwriter for the puppets. The games are just pretty pointless and it needs a lot of work to be given another chance. "Stepping Out" and "The X Factor" are going to be completely unchallenged by any channel. |
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Not sure why "I Love My Country" is going down so badly in the ratings. Its fairly bland but not a disaster show. Perhaps the format needs changing up but it could succeed given the right slot during the week.
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Alastair Cook interviewed by C5 before he gets to Athers on the podium on Sky. Wonder how they wangled that! Interesting. Anyway, C5 came off air at 19:57 and so miss out on the lifting of the urn, but ratings should still be decent as it's still 'new news'.
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I don't think the format is the issue. They could have gotten a comedian presenting, and someone better than Jamelia. .
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Saturday nights need addressing urgently as BBC One is looking a bit stale at the moment.
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Joking asides, the BBC main channels do need a little bit of work on them. They look out dated and old fashioned compared to other channels, especially since ITV has had a rebrand. Here are the points that I believe need addressing: The Marketing: trailers are mediocre. They are laden with inappropriate music that often bear no resemblance to the content of the programme they represent. Trailers should be slick, they should grab your attention from the off. The 1991-1997 era demonstrated how damn good the BBC were (or can be) at making trailers. They have their eyes off the ball on this at present. Quote:
The Scheduling: Some of their current scheduling decisions are bizarre. I don't understand how some shows are totally missed because they are scheduled inappropriately.
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The Weekend: There is no creativity at all when it comes to weekend television. Sunday is largely a schedule of repeats, many of which are mediocre daytime shows that have no place in a weekend schedule. Sunday consists of just half a dozen brand new shows:
Sunday Morning Live The Politics Show (Football Focus Extra) Songs of Praise Countryfile Antiques Roadshow The 9pm Programme That isn't good enough. And the arrogant complacency surrounding the tired Saturday night line ups is dumbfounding. But millions of people enjoy them and just because We, You or I don't like it doesn't mean it shouldn't be on. Quote:
The appearance: Both BBC1 and BBC2 look like rooms that need decorating but you can't be bothered. I'm not suggesting a fresh set of idents or a rebrand but surely they could freshen up and modernise the endboards, add some new additions to the idents and so on. ITV freshened up and it has worked wonders for them.
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The celebrities: Far too much emphasis is placed on the same few stars. Surely the BBC has enough talent across its organisation to ensure they can put fresh faces in new shows? I am getting fed up with Nick Knowles on everything apart from reading the News.
These are just a few of the things the BBC should look at. It isn't in a terribly worrying shape but it could do with a lick of paint. The only thing she wont be able to do on her own is fixing the state of LE on the BBC. That involves people higher up (Cohen and co. Ooh that has a ring to it! ). Ken |
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How many new episodes of Antiques Roadshow are commissioned each year? One of the things that does make schedules feel tired, and it is something BBC1 is especially guilty of - notably during daytime - is just never giving shows a break and airing repeats every time they run out of new episodes. To an extent that's fine - but the BBC sometimes push it a little bit too far.
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How many new episodes of Antiques Roadshow are commissioned each year? One of the things that does make schedules feel tired, and it is something BBC1 is especially guilty of - notably during daytime - is just never giving shows a break and airing repeats every time they run out of new episodes. To an extent that's fine - but the BBC sometimes push it a little bit too far.
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How many new episodes of Antiques Roadshow are commissioned each year? One of the things that does make schedules feel tired, and it is something BBC1 is especially guilty of - notably during daytime - is just never giving shows a break and airing repeats every time they run out of new episodes. To an extent that's fine - but the BBC sometimes push it a little bit too far.
I believe Pointless has been in repeats since 24th June. |
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Pointless to name one. As I mentioned before, they could swap it around with Perfection if they still feel the need to air repeats, or simply have it off air completely when it goes to repeats, and give Perfection a chance in the 5:15pm slot.
I believe Pointless has been in repeats since 24th June. |
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On the issue of "poor effort" BBC, there is this argument that just because "you" don't like a show is no reason to slag off the BBC. The nature of the BBC is that there will be something for "you" along soon that other people won't like.
A slight flaw in this view... BBC1s schedule is incredibly samey nowadays. If you don't like Monday daytime then you won't like Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday/Friday. It's the same stuff! Extending into weekends quite frequently as well. Even the evenings are almost identical to each other. |
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Pointless repeats gets more viewers than every other game show at tea time, even new episodes of other game shows. So it's not surprising BBC1 is showing it all year round. If BBC1 dropped Pointless for a few weeks, then the ratings in the 5.15-6pm would decline, just as Itv has experienced the last month with Take On The Twisters miserably failing in the Chase's slot. Viewers seem to love Pointless, even if theyre repeats they watch in big numbers.
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Pointless may be in repeats, but is obviously doing well because of the weak opposition.
As you know, Take on the Twisters has fallen below a million. The Chase was getting three times that. Pointless is doing well as a result of it's low figures. A bit like when you said The Chase was only pulling in 3 million+ a few months ago because Pointless was off-air for a few weeks. I think we can agree on the fact that both Pointless and The Chase are popular, and the victories are bound to vary for similar shows that are on at the same time. Between October last year and January, The Chase consecutively beat Pointless. After the Xmas break, Pointless frequently beat it. Pointless had the benefit of Celebrity editions, 6 days a week (for that two week period in December, Saturdays otherwise). |
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Problem is that it'll lead to burnout.
It's like the people saying the bbc ran down The Weakest Link by showing it so much over 10 years. But how many more years would the Weakest Link have lasted at the top if they'd shown fewer episodes per year? Maybe a couple years more? Overall, the bbc made the right decision showing it every weekday for 9/10 years in a row and inevitably, like all game shows it burned out. But they certainly got their value for money from it. When a channel like BBC1/C4/Itv gets a freak-ish daytime hit like Pointless/Chase/Deal Or No Deal, their best way to play it is to pack in as many episodes as possible to build a strong day time schedule. These will all burn out eventually anyway so might as well make the most of them when they're popular for the time being. |
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Not that the viewing figures for Pointless & The Chase show any signs of burn-out, yet...
As for 'making the most while they're popular', we're not talking about marketing a boyband or something here. It's a quiz show, and really, they can be changed up every now and then to become more fresh. They don't rely entirely on the format or host, more so the intelligence of the contestants and the level of questions. Quiz shows are hardly going to lose popularity on their own. They are only really going to if they are run into the ground on purpose. |
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