Of course it does, but Pointless is hardly a beast in any demographic anyway. Like other primetime gameshows it rates well but it is not a massive show and can be dented by other shows. It's no more a threat than the lottery gameshows.

It'll be interesting to see how Stepping Out skews age-wise actually. Strictly obviously skews old, and DOI is a little younger but not much. Dance shows do therefore tend to be popular with an older audience, although this show will have all kinds of styles of dances including street, hip hop and Bollywood, not just ballroom, so it should skew younger than Strictly, but a fair way older than XF. A 16-34 skew of around 14-18% is my guess.

It's interesting that Zoe Ball was talking up 'Stepping Out' on the Radio 2 this morning, saying how exciting it would be to see Dempsy and Makepeace dancing. So either she's incredibly sporting or she thinks the more popular dancing is the better for both shows, and her 'It Takes Two'.

ETA: I don't think Denise Welsh, Dempsy and Makepeace and Laurence Llewellyn Bowen are going for the younger viewers. The big thing for Stepping Out (just a guess, maybe I'll be way off) is that the dancing may not be that great - because there is no pro, and with the wider range of dances. I'd guess they're going for the audience that loves to see Widdecombe and Russell Grant on Strictly, not some of the very good dancing you get on Strictly (usually hated as 'ringers'). And that might be a good idea for news coverage, etc.

Agree to disagree there but I think the huge timeshift for Under the Dome and C5 picking up viewers as BB ended suggests it isn't as crucial as it once was. A BB lead in would probably still be wise, but not sure a 30-minute final or eviction afterwards is so necessary. BOTS itself (which still does amazingly) is probably enough of a hook for anyone who might not be tempted to stick with C5.

Bad Education already up to number 15 in the iPlayer chart. Will no doubt be number 1 before too long. I know some people will say it will have minimal impact on BBC3, but I think it'll be hit hard. We've seen how many people watch programmes on iPlayer these days, over 2m for Top Gear. If you're a fan then you're surely bound to watch it by next Tuesday.

We watched Under The Dome via Demand5 on Sky. The last time we watched a programme on C5 was for first two or three episodes of Castle, which we gave up on.

If the BBC Three airing rates poorly, then maybe they'll be regretting this idea of having it on iPlayer a week before.

I had no idea what this is, so here's the answer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23398209

I'm sure they know that there's a good chance of that. What matters to them is how many people watch the programme across all platforms at the end of the day.

It's just a bit sad for us TV ratings geeks that there is no way of knowing, until the BBC issue a press release. I'd love to know how many people watch it day by day this coming week, would be fascinating.

Talk about a "fifth judge" for X Factor being revealed this Friday - perfectly timed as well.

So it's essentially another Lifetime Achievement award then, though IIRC that award was taken out of the ceremony this year in favour of a made up one for One Direction.

"Aggressive scheduling" - In the strange world of SamuelW something the BBC is allowed to do, but not ITV.





It will be interesting to see if this 30 min. programme is shown on the ITV network at any point soon.



And "It's all about The Voice"...err...no it wasn't!!




:yawn: And "It's all about The Voice"...err..no it wasn't!!

Oooh! Get you standing up for your beloved ITV. It is so lovely to see!


Oooh! Get you standing up for your beloved BBC, it is so lovely to see.


Actually it's like watching two schoolboys playing conkers in the playground. Time to start wearing long trousers boys!

3 Hours of EE! What's the reason for this?

Hello my little stalker, had a nice day?

People are tuning out of the main channels because it no longer serves there TV watching needs, It could happen on Saturday night as ITV take there audience for granted with a dated talent show which is past its sell by date now.

I did. I haven't watched TV at all! Wonderful.

Why, "aggressive scheduling" from the BBC of course! They are allowed to do that you know...

It's nice to see you get out occasionally. Must be good for the anger management.

Anger management? I'm not angry. Just direct. And going out? I have been to work. It's something you need to do if you want to pay the bills.

I've been terrified of going anywhere near it since last nights EastEnders!

Ken

Not way off at all. For me Stepping Out will stand or fall on how largely untrained couples come across to the viewers. If all the couples either are average and just bumble around the floor(and don't progress which is far more difficult without a pro), or are all playing it for laughs -both of those scenarios will become boring very quickly. They will have to have chosen their couples carefully- especially if the end goal is replacing DOI.

There will be significant curiosity I would have thought, its just getting enough people around the tele at 6.30 (if that's the start time). No inspired opposition from the Beeb but the sun is more than a match for most -ITV will be hoping for a grey day to hit the ground running. New shows early Saturday evening are like lambs to the slaughter sometimes.

Actually I stopped watching EastEnders ten minutes in. It was truly truly awful. Time to lay it to rest I think.

I cannot understand how that programme can go from the ratings giant it once was to now being on a ratings par with Emmerdale!

Time to start a BBC In Ratings Crisis Thread - maybe we should ask SamuelW to start as the OP...oh wait a minute...

Lol it cant be that bad surely?

Iv been watching a few episodes recently, and the last time I watched regularly was probably mid nineties. It may not have the strength of characters now but I don't get the "truly truly awful" bit.

As for laying it to rest-you will be waiting a long time I reckon.

DS US ratings is up
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/new...ther-more.html