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The Ratings Thread (Part 52)
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H of De Vil
28-08-2013
Originally Posted by ronant:
“The new Radio Times goes through some of the Autumn dramas:

BBC1 - Quirke (3 parts); The Great Train Robbery (2 parts); Atlantis; The Escape Artist (3 parts).

BBC2 - Peaky Blinders (6 parts, starts September 12th); An Adventure in Space and Time (one-off).

ITV - Doc Martin (8 parts, starts September 2nd); Downton Abbey; The Guilty (3 parts, starts 5th September); Breathless.

C4 - Masters of Sex. Sky Living - Dracula. Sky Atlantic - The Tunnel.”



Looking forward to the ones in bold. However I'm interested to see how The Great Train Robbery does, due to the fact ITV has already broadcast a drama based on this plus a documentary.
Dancc
28-08-2013
Big +1 for CSI NY last night. Body of Proof reruns still hitting new highs on 5USA. Great stuff.

Tonight Five hope to build on recent drama successes with the launch of prison based drama Wentworth at 10pm. Not to be missed this one folks.
cylon6
28-08-2013
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“EastEnders: 6.6m (35.0%), BBC3: 495k (3.3%)
Emmerdale: 6.38m (36.7%) / 6.55m (37.5%)
Holby City: 4.32m (19.1%)

DS report is up: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...d-episode.html

"GBBO dips by 300k", yes but it's also up by a million on the equivalent episode a year ago.

Only Connect: 1.67m (8.8%)
Midwives: Old Mums, Young Mums: 1.86m (8.0%)

New Tricks: 7.5m (32.0%)

Arsenal vs Fenerbahçe: 2.65m (11.9%)

Double Your House for Free: 1.04m (4.6%) / 1.31m (5.7%)
Top Boy: 821k (3.5%) / 1.01m (4.6%)

CSI: NY: 1.17m (5.0%) / 1.49m (6.9%)
Celebrity Big Brother: 1.79m (10.6%) / 1.95m (12.3%)
Bit on the Side: 845k (8.9%)

Don't Tell the Bride: 843k (3.6%)”

Top Boy is dying a death on Channel 4, 9pm is the wrong time for it. Only Connect is flying on BBC2, Tuesday seems a better night for it.
cylon6
28-08-2013
Originally Posted by ronant:
“The new Radio Times goes through some of the Autumn dramas:

BBC1 - Quirke (3 parts); The Great Train Robbery (2 parts); Atlantis; The Escape Artist (3 parts).

BBC2 - Peaky Blinders (6 parts, starts September 12th); An Adventure in Space and Time (one-off).

ITV - Doc Martin (8 parts, starts September 2nd); Downton Abbey; The Guilty (3 parts, starts 5th September); Breathless.

C4 - Masters of Sex. Sky Living - Dracula. Sky Atlantic - The Tunnel.”

So The Guilty will be against Peaky Blinders on Thursdays. BBC2 dramas tend do better on Mondays and Tuesdays.
comedy89
28-08-2013
Originally Posted by big dan:
“If EE can perform solidly for what is essentially late summer filler there's no reason for it not to attract extra viewers in the coming weeks. Piles on the pressure a bit, this should be interesting.”

I would hardly say it has performed well at all. Last night it should have picked up. It will soon be rating the same as Holby.
Mike Teevee
28-08-2013
FYI - 6 week amendments for w/e 7th July 2013 have been done for BARB website

BBC One's Wimbledon Men's Final viewing figure is 12.38m, changed from previous 10.32m
Ice dragon1
28-08-2013
Originally Posted by comedy89:
“I would hardly say it has performed well at all. Last night it should have picked up. It will soon be rating the same as Holby.”

For starters he said its performed steadily which it has. Plus if you think EE will rate like Holby your just plain mad.
cylon6
28-08-2013
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“FYI - 6 week amendments for w/e 7th July 2013 have been done for BARB website

BBC One's Wimbledon Men's Final viewing figure is 12.38m, changed from previous 10.32m”

Any other big movers for that week Mike?
cylon6
28-08-2013
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“Bloody hell at the New Tricks figure. You'd have to be a Fool to not no why that was so high.”

Or a plonker! Still wish it was on Monday though.
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Looks most of those people away on there holidays have returned post bank holiday then. Well not in the case of Top Boy obviously but which scheduling idiot chose to put it up against CSI and NT.”

I'd be stunned if there was much crossover between Top Boy and New Tricks!
Zac Quinn
28-08-2013
Fantastic for New Tricks and GBBO. Like I said a few weeks ago, and with the soaps, if popular programming is there to watch, people will watch it, 'summer holidays' or not.
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“FYI - 6 week amendments for w/e 7th July 2013 have been done for BARB website

BBC One's Wimbledon Men's Final viewing figure is 12.38m, changed from previous 10.32m”

Thanks for that. Is that final now or open to possibly changing again?
jda135
28-08-2013
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“did someone seriously put yesterday that the (dead) football match would get 4m?

CL qualifier
2251 + 400k (peak 8pm 2742 + 551k)

New Tricks - 7505
Top Boy - 820k
CBB - 1786 (+1 157k)”

The CL qualifier was always going rate poorly, unless Arsenal massively slipped up.

Brilliant for New Tricks and GBBO, which continues to surprise. CBB ok, but share good. Top Boy has completely collapsed, although it might rise next week with no football. Interesting to note that C4 came 6th at 9pm last night, behind Don't Tell the Bride on BBC3.

BTW, next Wednesday looks to be a mammoth clash;

BBC1 - Who Do You Think You Are (NEW)
BBC2 - The Many Faces of Michael Crawford (NEW)
ITV - Whitechapel (NEW)
C4 - Grand Designs (NEW)
C5 - Celeb Big Brother - Live Eviction (NEW)

A solid guess would be that BBC2 comes last out of the 5. But who will win? I have a feeling that Grand Designs may start lowly and Celeb BB might be dented with Whitechapel winning the night. Does anyone have the overnights for the last series of Whitechapel?
Mike Teevee
28-08-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Any other big movers for that week Mike?”

tbh as a biased Murray fan, I was only looking at that programme. I don't think there were any big changes for the top 5 channels& top 30 MC

Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Fantastic for New Tricks and GBBO. Like I said a few weeks ago, and with the soaps, if popular programming is there to watch, people will watch it, 'summer holidays' or not.

Thanks for that. Is that final now or open to possibly changing again?”

this is the final amendment, no more revisions
Hassaan13
28-08-2013
Originally Posted by jda135:
“Does anyone have the overnights for the last series of Whitechapel?”

30/01: 6.21m (24.8%) / 6.59m (26.9%)
06/02: 5.63m (21.2%) / 5.86m (22.5%)
13/02: 5.79m (22.6%) / 6.09m (24.2%)
20/02: 5.51m (22.1%) / 5.78m (23.6%)
27/02: 5.65m (23.8%) / 5.86m (25%)
05/03: 5.89m (24.1%) / 6.16m (25.7%)
Zac Quinn
28-08-2013
Channel 5 to remake The Wombles for airing in 2015
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...5-in-2015.html

Not sure how I feel about that. On one hand it's good that such a classic part of our country's literature fabric is being introduced to a new audience. On the other hand I don't see why they feel the need to make a whole new series - would it be so hard to just repeat the old episodes? That'd also eliminate the risk of the new rewrites being embarrassingly bad, which I presume is the main reason it's being shoved away on the Milkshake strand.
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“this is the final amendment, no more revisions”

Good stuff. Thanks.
H of De Vil
28-08-2013
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“FYI - 6 week amendments for w/e 7th July 2013 have been done for BARB website

BBC One's Wimbledon Men's Final viewing figure is 12.38m, changed from previous 10.32m”



I can imagine the uproar by some if The X Factor somehow managed to top that and become the highest rating this year (unlikely i imagine), with a upsurge in its ratings. Figures would be spun like never before.
wizzywick
28-08-2013
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Not sure about that. Even if it doesn't rate very well, they should at least be praised for trying something new rather than rely on repeats to anchor their night around X Factor.”

Why should they be praised for trying something new? It isn't new. It's a show created as an ITV version of Strictly. If it's a hit so be it, if it's a flop it should just be considered that they shoulodn't try to copy an already successful format. They had a perfectly good variation of Strictly with Dancing on Ice. Why do they need another?

And, in keeping with the thread, BBC1 were not praised for trying out something new with Puppet Game Show or I Love My country. A few did say "At least they tried this summer", but overall they were slated for producing the programmes to begin with!
Hassaan13
28-08-2013
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“I can imagine the uproar by some if The X Factor somehow managed to top that and become the highest rating this year (unlikely i imagine), with a upsurge in its ratings. Figures would be spun like never before. ”

There wasn't much of an uproar when X Factor beat Wimbledon in 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 & 11, was there?

It would be nice to see X Factor rise this year, but its ratings are highly unpredictable.
ronant
28-08-2013
BBC One has tweeted that the Strictly premiere show will air at 6.50pm, not 7pm as the provisional schedule yesterday suggested. So no ten minute overlap with X Factor presumably.
H of De Vil
28-08-2013
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“30/01: 6.21m (24.8%) / 6.59m (26.9%)
06/02: 5.63m (21.2%) / 5.86m (22.5%)
13/02: 5.79m (22.6%) / 6.09m (24.2%)
20/02: 5.51m (22.1%) / 5.78m (23.6%)
27/02: 5.65m (23.8%) / 5.86m (25%)
05/03: 5.89m (24.1%) / 6.16m (25.7%)”

Hopefully Whitechapel manages similar figures to that, or at least above 5million+ overnight and 7million+ in consolidation.
Hassaan13
28-08-2013
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Why should they be praised for trying something new? It isn't new. It's a show created as an ITV version of Strictly. If it's a hit so be it, if it's a flop it should just be considered that they shoulodn't try to copy an already successful format. They had a perfectly good variation of Strictly with Dancing on Ice. Why do they need another?

And, in keeping with the thread, BBC1 were not praised for trying out something new with Puppet Game Show or I Love My country. A few did say "At least they tried this summer", but overall they were slated for producing the programmes to begin with!”

I meant new programming in general. It's better than having endless repeats of You've Been Framed leading into X Factor. It's not a new format, yes, but anything could happen with it, we don't know yet.
Jonwo
28-08-2013
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Channel 5 to remake The Wombles for airing in 2015
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...5-in-2015.html

Not sure how I feel about that. On one hand it's good that such a classic part of our country's literature fabric is being introduced to a new audience. On the other hand I don't see why they feel the need to make a whole new series - would it be so hard to just repeat the old episodes? That'd also eliminate the risk of the new rewrites being embarrassingly bad, which I presume is the main reason it's being shoved away on the Milkshake strand.
Good stuff. Thanks.”

Milkshake have been successful at reviving classic children's shows like Noddy, Rupert Bear etc so The Wombles coming back isn't a bad thing, its the second time they've been revived as CITV showed a new series about 15 years ago.

The reason for not simply repeating the original series is may be to with rights issues and also perhaps the series might not have aged well, you have to remember that the target audience is small children so the content from the older series may not be relevant to a new audiences.
j10cool10
28-08-2013
Celebrity Big Brother final is on Friday 13th September in two parts, with the first episode of Celebrity Super Spa in between:

8:30pm - Celebrity Big Brother: Live Final
10:00pm - NEW: Celebrity Super Spa
11:00pm - Celebrity Big Brother: Live Final
11:30pm - Celebrity Big Brother's Bit On the Side

http://tellyplus.co.uk/2013/08/28/ce...nto-two-parts/
cylon6
28-08-2013
Originally Posted by jda135:
“The CL qualifier was always going rate poorly, unless Arsenal massively slipped up.

Brilliant for New Tricks and GBBO, which continues to surprise. CBB ok, but share good. Top Boy has completely collapsed, although it might rise next week with no football. Interesting to note that C4 came 6th at 9pm last night, behind Don't Tell the Bride on BBC3.”

Champions League ratings usually pick up in the latter stages where there's more to play for. I think you're right about the football taking some of the Top Boy audience. Still poor though.

Quote:
“BTW, next Wednesday looks to be a mammoth clash;

BBC1 - Who Do You Think You Are (NEW)
BBC2 - The Many Faces of Michael Crawford (NEW)
ITV - Whitechapel (NEW)
C4 - Grand Designs (NEW)
C5 - Celeb Big Brother - Live Eviction (NEW)

A solid guess would be that BBC2 comes last out of the 5. But who will win? I have a feeling that Grand Designs may start lowly and Celeb BB might be dented with Whitechapel winning the night. Does anyone have the overnights for the last series of Whitechapel?”

Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“30/01: 6.21m (24.8%) / 6.59m (26.9%)
06/02: 5.63m (21.2%) / 5.86m (22.5%)
13/02: 5.79m (22.6%) / 6.09m (24.2%)
20/02: 5.51m (22.1%) / 5.78m (23.6%)
27/02: 5.65m (23.8%) / 5.86m (25%)
05/03: 5.89m (24.1%) / 6.16m (25.7%)”

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Hopefully Whitechapel manages similar figures to that, or at least above 5million+ overnight and 7million+ in consolidation.”

Whitechapel should win on Wednesday, Who Do You Think You Are isn't as popular as it was and has had higher ratings when it was on BBC2 on exactly the same day and time. Those Whitechapel overnights were very good for a series that was facing The Royal Bodyguard and a Mrs Brown's Boys that was doing well but yet to become the ratings juggernaut it is now.
hyperstarsponge
28-08-2013
Who Do You Think You Are is a program that never should of been moved from BBC2, BBC1 needs to make some content of its own and stop spoilering other BBC channels hits by dumbing them down.
ronant
28-08-2013
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Who Do You Think You Are is a program that never should of been moved from BBC2, BBC1 needs to make some content of its own and stop spoilering other BBC channels hits by dumbing them down.”

The programme didn't change one iota when it was moved to BBC1. Have you ever watched it?

I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what BBC1 is for, and what BBC2 is for. Have a read of their service licenses which will help you: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/our_wo..._licences.html
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