You left out the crucial line ''10 years ago''
Or are you delusional enough to think it would be still getting 4.5-5m on BBC 2 after 10 years. Actually don't answer that.

It says in my TV guide that BBC2 programme Faces of Michael Crawford is a rpt.

Like Top Gear? With extra crying celebrities..

Digital Spy says that Strictly launch will be from 6.50-8.10pm with X Factor from 8pm. So still a 10minute clash.

A good start for "Mr Mediocrity", as GeorgeS called him the other day....

Should be a good 9m figure in the officials there. Excellent for a show bumped out of the (once) flagship Monday night slot.

Bonnet de douche.


I think it's Piers Morgan's Sob Stories with the extra crying celebrities.

And a weeping host when the overnights come out...

Top Gear still gets 4.5m or are you delusional enough to forget that you jumped up crapfunnel?

Yeah Top gear is down from it's overnights height of 7m+. Thanks for proving my point.


A bit rich given how much you wank off about Long Lost Family hosted by two former WDYTYA stars who constantly cry. Of course it's made by the same production company. As were the other WDYTYA rip offs 'You don't know you're born' and 'life in the workhouse'. The later being mostly celebs crying.
ITV needs better fanboys.

I blame the Arsenal for New Tricks recovery...Wenger!

Yeah they are crying about someone they know. Not some put on, for some long dead ancestor.

btw Have you and wizzlestick thought of forming a double act?

I don't form a double act with anyone. I'm good on my own thanks. And if you don't mind Georgina, it's WIZZYWICK.

Out of interest, why are you so obssessed with ITV? What is it about ITV that makes you utterly orgasmic?

You seem to have problems with people with different opinions. Its all "my opinion is the only opinion that is valid and you differ I resort to crude abuse". Real classy.

Just coz I dont go "well done BBC" it seems to really upset some of the self-appointed mod's here

I didn't realise this thread had that effect on people....

(sorry)

Broadcast has some insight here: of Bake Off's 5.32m viewers, 1.95m were male (a ~37% skew). The football drew 1.7m male viewers (a ~63% skew) on average. Since during the clash the football averaged 3.05m viewers, we can deduce that it was very close to a tie among male viewers between the football and the competitive baking, head to head.

Broadcast uses the whole football broadcast for the comparison, hence their headline "Men opt for Bake Off over football".

Not orgasmic, but interesting.

George, you are the one who called me wizzlestick as if fishing for a response. A valid opinion can only be taken seriously when it is given out of validity. For instance you slag off the BBC so many times without watching any of the shows you slag off (according to you), you berate That Puppet Game Show to the extent that it seems you've hired a hit man to destroy it, even though you haven't seen it (but, in honesty it isn't the most intellectually challenging show on TV), and you seem dead excited and dead keen to will everything on BBC1 to fail as if you are in competition. Samuel is the same with regards to BBC1 but you are far more antagonistic than him.

If you don't want the sort of response I gave previously, don't supply the ammunition. For the record, I love differing opinions. I like to engage in real, in-depth conversation about something. But your views are not actually "opinions" because you can't have an opinion on something you haven't seen or know anything about. I congratulate the BBC and ITV when it's warranted (I vwatch more on ITV now than I have done for years, they really have made vast improvements to its line up over the last year or so), but I will also criticise both BBC and ITV too. Not all of us are as monochromic as you are.

A couple of consolidated ratings from last Tuesday:

New Tricks - 7.83m
The Great British Bake Off - 6.60m (second highest rating ever)

You really need to get a grip. I've hardly mentioned the puppet thing. You got all hissy because your theory about twitter being to blame for its awful figures turned out not to be backed up by facts. So dont tell me what a valid opinion is or isnt. Straight off the back of that you come back with insulting coments calling me "pathetic".

You act like someone is forcing you to read my posts. Are they? And get very upset if someone says something that isnt "on message".

Thats why I suggested a double act! Somewhere on the Sky 900's channel range

My wife probably.

Ken

I was talking about the impact of social media in general, not specifically about the failure of That Puppet Game Show, but none of us knew the facts at time of writing that post (which was at the weekend), and you posted that information today! So I don't recall having a hissy fit. And, your response to me calling you pathetic was "better than a cowardly turn-around" (or words to that effect).There were tweets and many negative posts on DS about TPGS. Your glee at the failure of the show was indeed pathetic. But from now on George, as you are so happy and keen to dish it out but feel insulted to get it recipricated, I think it's best if we ignore each other. I can discuss the merits and disappointments of shows on all channels with many folk on DS, so I think I'll leave you be.

Never watch "New Tricks" as I dont really get its popularity but watched to see the performance of Nicholas Lyndhurst as he was briliant as Rodney Trotter in "Only Fools and Horses". I suspect then that many also watched that dont normally given the overnight ratings boost. The bbc should really have tried to persuade David Jason to appear in it as well if this is the effect on the ratings. Dennis Waterman was terrible in it and Amanda Redman seems to carry the whole show and actors. Her performance was the best.

Denis Waterman is a singular actor. What you see is what you get. But the trouble is his acting lacks depth and believability. I watch Denis Waterman act and just convince myself he's playing Denis Waterman. He is the weakest performing actor in New tricks, but somehow, despite it all, there's something endearing about him.

I remembered him being better than that in a few "Minder" episodes but perhaps that was because its so long ago. He seems to be quite lucky to be employed in a high rated series if last nights performance is anything to judge him on. Lyndhurst seemed to struggle to bring anything to the script either. I though Amanda Redman held the characters together well. A pity the BBC team cant persuade her to do a year on EastEnders as a landlady.

Thanks for these.

An uplift from the overnights of +1.34m for New Tricks. The first four episodes have all timeshifted by between +1.28m and +1.39m, and between +18% and +21%, so Robbie's 9m for last night's is possible (it would need +1.50m or +20%). I feel it may just fall short, like the opener. Still terrific of course.

EDIT: I hadn't realised but this series' first episode's consolidated rating of 8.86m was the highest since the penultimate episode of the 2011 series.

One million exactly in timeshift for GBBO (+18%).

Is this some new BBC fakery scandal George?

Fake tears in the BBC sob-stories shows, but tears in ITV-land are all genuine?

I well remember being forced to watch guff like Cilla's Surprise Surprise and the peeled-onion fake tears that flowed rather too conveniently in that show.


I find only the Best Boobs on TV thread has such an effect on me!

Although there are plenty of big tits on this thread at times....


Blimey.

One wonders what the final of GBBO will get on a dark autumn night a few weeks hence?

What might ITV seek to dent it with? An emergency midweek TXF eviction show?

Or a POG's Dogs Autumn Special?

There's a funny bit in Alexei Sayle's current stand up show about Sayle remembering "Dennis Waterman is a c***" was a line on the b side of his single 'Ullo John Gotta A New Motor' seconds before he met Waterman while he was filming New Tricks last year. Whoops!