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The Ratings Thread (Part 52)
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29-08-2013
Originally Posted by C14E:
“It is later. But what people forget is that since that loss of 23% for last years opener, it has probably lost another 15-20% of its audience. So all the positive factors need to make up for that loss before we talk about building on last year.

Since September 2011, every single episode has been down double digit percentages on the previous year. Launches are usually well below the previous years finale performance shows - and last years final Saturday episode only had 9.3m to start with. So it's a massive swing required to actually post an improvement (whether on the premiere of 8.7m or the 8.6m is scored on the equivalent date last year).

I think the fact that growth is even being considered is a positive sign that there's a better feeling around this years show. And I think even a slight growth will make the world of difference to the press the show gets this year. While I'm confident it won't be down anything like as much as last year, I'm definitely not expecting any kind of major improvement.”

Agree, I think people are being swept up a bit. For all last year's launch had tougher circumstances, things didn't improve from there at all across the series. The episode on the same weekend last year got 8.6m, the final auditions show got 9.0m, the first live show got 9.1m, which fell to 8.0m by the semi-final. The Saturday final then rebounded to 9.5m, with 11.1m for the Sunday. So the Saturday final was down 13% and the Sunday final down 15%. Bearing in mind last year's Saturday final had easier competition than 2011's and that both semifinal shows were down 25%, it's safe to say they've got an uphill climb ahead of them.

However, they have done some good work so far and for the first time since September 2011 things are looking positive. There's been a much bigger advertising campaign, no Olympics overshadowing the launch and there is a more positive feeling surrounding it all. For those reasons I think it can match last year's launch despite how last year's series went afterwards. A small improvement is plausible, but nothing too drastic, and a fall wouldn't surprise me completely either, although again I'd be surprised if it was a drastic one.

Predictions (inc +1)
Saturday: 8.9m
Sunday: 9.2m

Anyone else?

Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“Stepping Out panel confirmed as Mel B, Jason Gardiner & Wayne Sleep.”

Solid panel there. Certainly not the shy and retiring types. I still don't have high hopes for this show though, and Strictly will sadly crush it in week 2 anyway.
NeilVW
29-08-2013
Originally Posted by Newcastle:
“It's a bit crass. Syrians get nerve gassed, war looming, but will someone please think about the ratings....”

I was talking about the implications for ratings.of the Prime Minister losing a vote in the House of Commons. The wider story should be discussed elsewhere, as you said yourself.
Andy23
29-08-2013
ITV News carried the vote result live tonight, BBC News missed it and just carried the aftermath.

No effect on ratings though.
Georged123
29-08-2013
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“ITV News carried the vote result live tonight, BBC News missed it and just carried the aftermath.

No effect on ratings though.”

I'm sure BBC News 24 carried it (which is available to everyone) so no one missed out if they wanted to watch the BBC's coverage.
Fudd
29-08-2013
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“I'm sure BBC News 24 carried it (which is available to everyone) so no one missed out if they wanted to watch the BBC's coverage.”

I thought BBC News 24 would carry the BBC News at Ten coverage in that slot, which had Nick Robinson speaking over the Prime Minister?

Admittedly, BBC Parliament no doubt aired coverage from the House live.
RobbieSykes123
29-08-2013
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“I thought BBC News 24 would carry the BBC News at Ten coverage in that slot, which had Nick Robinson speaking over the Prime Minister?

Admittedly, BBC Parliament no doubt aired coverage from the House live.”

Bit of a screw up by the Beeb - the most politically significant words the PM has spoken since taking office and we got Robbo saying "I'm trying to talk to you whilst listening to what the Prime Minister is saying".

Yes, Nick. I was trying to listen to him too....
Wozza20
29-08-2013
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Get in there!! Haven't been this thrilled with a show's performance in a long time. Well deserved.

Make no mistake folks who ignored my wise advice not to miss this- it was hard hitting powerful stuff, and we have just seen Love Hate flop in the same slot, which makes the 10%+ share recorded even more impressive.

C5 bent over backwards to support it in terms of promo and thankfully it worked. I just hope it can keep up these numbers because it's a top drama.”

I don't mean to say I told you so, but.....
I'm sure the phrase I used was sleeper-hit!

I thought it might do well as Prisoner is a cult and was massive back in the day. Perhaps 5* could see the potential for repeating the original which I bet would rate better than anything else they show at 11pm.
NeilVW
29-08-2013
Originally Posted by Wozza20:
“I thought it might do well as Prisoner is a cult and was massive back in the day. Perhaps 5* could see the potential for repeating the original which I bet would rate better than anything else they show at 11pm.”

I fondly remember Channel 5's late-night repeats of Prisoner (Cell Block H) back in the day, complete with the continuity announcer's sarcastic commentary over the (incredibly long) end-credits.
comedy89
29-08-2013
It's a wonder BBC haven't repeated Just Good Friends. I think it has aged pretty well.
johnnymc
30-08-2013
Originally Posted by LW09:
“Getting viewers to watch the Sunday episode is more critical than next Saturday. If Saturday goes down well, then those viewers will return on Sunday with an increased audience due to more being available. If this increased audience is impressed with the second episode, then more viewers have seen the new panel in action and should be more inclined to watch the following Saturday. But thats a very simplistic view, and the first room auditions probably has little bearing on the second. It should launch with about 9.2m, getting about 9.5m on Sunday. I don't think there will be that much difference between Saturday and Sunday (slightly contradicting some of my post).



In addition to that, GMTV might still be on air, or at the very least the original incarnation of Daybreak may never have been broadcast. Evans on Friday's One Show definitely had a massive and unexpected fallout for both BBC and ITV.”

It was a decision made by Jay Hunt that in turn rippled across television land. Chiles and Bleakely probably would still be comfortable BBC star presenters had she not decided to meddle with his contract. Daybreak may never have ever surfaced or perhaps it would gave launched successfully with a different presenting team. Bleakely would have been still seen as a crediable presenter, she really was stupid to follow him to itv when the BBC made her a counter offer of the Olympics presenting gig and more cash. Alex Jones would never have got her big break either. Jay Hunt decision to promote Evans actually benefitted the BBC in the end. Chiles and Bleakely flopped on itv quite badly. "That Sunday Night Show" "Dancing on Ice" "Text Santa" and BBC Breakfast went smoothly to Salford. Its been a ratings disaster to bring them over to itv. Peter Fincham was musguided to think he could just recreate "The One Show" at 6 o clock in the morning.
guestofseth
30-08-2013
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“So the way to fix a soap which is struggling in the ratings is to order MORE episodes, not less.

Indeed, there is no justification for airing 6 episodes across one week, who do they think they are ITV?”

The main problem with EE at the moment is that there's no storylines for viewers to get involved with, viewers aren't being given a reason to tune in. By adding an episode, for the one week only (the way people are acting you'd think it was a permanent move) they're making it look like there's finally something happening in the soap, and the spoilers back this up. Outside of Dan's hype (which I've realised is not unlike Haasaan's for X Factor) I do think next month looks good, with the stunt actually being the least exciting part of it. I hope it works out for them, although I feel like it's going to dip again after these next few weeks while we wait for the new producer's work to show.
NeilVW
30-08-2013
Originally Posted by comedy89:
“It's a wonder BBC haven't repeated Just Good Friends. I think it has aged pretty well.”

There are so many sitcoms they could repeat; here's a list:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/programm...dy/sitcoms/all
(Bit of a bug in the system as Ace Ventura and Freddie Got Fingered are in there!)
They cost a fair amount to show again but it would be nice to have a bit more variety than Miranda and Mrs Brown's Boys, good repeat raters that they are.
Steve Williams
30-08-2013
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“ITV News at Ten was extended to cover the vote, BBC News on BBC1 wasn't”

It was, actually, the following programme didn't come on until 10.45.
kwynne42
30-08-2013
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Vanessa Feltz announced as the first celebrity to star in this year's Strictly Come Dancing.”

You were only about 16 hours late reporting that.
northlad
30-08-2013
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“It was, actually, the following programme didn't come on until 10.45.”

Are you sure, I switched on BBC1 at 10.30 and the local news was on,turned to ITV news and the vote was showing live.
kwynne42
30-08-2013
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“It's staggering that 11.2m were watching an EE repeat at 3pm on a Sunday afternoon, even during Christmas.

I always thought Just Good Friends aired at 9.xx before the second EE. Did it really get 20.8m at 6pm?

How the blazers did Dumbo get 14m for ITV at 3.10?! What was BBC1 showing after The Queen and what did it get?

Presumably ITV outrated BBC1 for The Queen that year? Probably not, but you'd think it would have done if ITV was showing the film of choice at 3.10.

Wonder what treats 2013 will throw up on the big day? ”

Wasn't the Dumbo high ratings due to the fact that in those days Disney kept a tight leash on its Cartoon films only showing them in Cinema's every 10 years or so and hardly ever allowing them to appear on TV or Video so many people probably wouldn't ever have seen Dumbo, you certainly wouldn't see it about 10 times in 1 year like you would nowadays.
D.M.N.
30-08-2013
Jake Kanter ‏@Jake_Kanter 42m
Sky 1 comedy Chickens lost more than a third of its audience on last week’s debut. It fell to 199k (0.94%) viewers. #tellyratings
9:42 AM - 30 Aug 13
cylon6
30-08-2013
Can't blame an On Demand preview for this. @Jake_Kanter: Sky 1 comedy Chickens lost more than a third of its audience on last week’s debut. It fell to 199k (0.94%) viewers. #tellyratings
Ice dragon1
30-08-2013
Eastenders: 6.33m (32.6%) 601k (3.9%) saw BBC Three's repeat screening at 10.30pm.

Emmerdale: 6.12m (33.4%) 122k (0.6%) on +1 5.76m (27.5%) returned at 8pm 339k (1.6%) on +1

Hollyoaks: 879k (5.3%) E4's first look had 559k (3.0%) at 7pm.

Neighbours: 628k (9.5%) at 1.45pm and 761k (6.2%)

Home and Away: continued with 69k (0.4%)

Doctors was seen by 1.32m (20.3%)

EE still doing well plus it's BBC Three repeat seems awfully high which is a good sign.
SamuelW
30-08-2013
Celebrity Juice running out of steam? Viewers getting bored of Keith Lemon? Yesterday's new episode of Juice returned with ratings 30pct down from last Autumn's series launch and 48pct down from last February's record rating launch.

Celebrity Big Brother continuing its good ratings so far this week with 2million.
ftv
30-08-2013
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“It was, actually, the following programme didn't come on until 10.45.”

Viewers had a choice of watching the vote and aftermath on either BBC Parliament or the BBC News channel. I suspect Nick Robinson couldn't actually see the output when he talked all over Cameron and they should have cut him off.
GeorgeS
30-08-2013
Over 1m for the dead Spurs game on itv4 last night. 1.006M; 5% share from 7.30pm

1.219M for Celebrity Juice at 10pm on itv2
mrstreetcred
30-08-2013
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“Eastenders: 6.33m (32.6%) 601k (3.9%) saw BBC Three's repeat screening at 10.30pm.

Emmerdale: 6.12m (33.4%) 122k (0.6%) on +1 5.76m (27.5%) returned at 8pm 339k (1.6%) on +1

Hollyoaks: 879k (5.3%) E4's first look had 559k (3.0%) at 7pm.

Neighbours: 628k (9.5%) at 1.45pm and 761k (6.2%)

Home and Away: continued with 69k (0.4%)

Doctors was seen by 1.32m (20.3%)

EE still doing well plus it's BBC Three repeat seems awfully high which is a good sign.”

Yeah that bbc3 figure stood out,close to what it was getting at 10 pm
NeilVW
30-08-2013
Originally Posted by northlad:
“Are you sure, I switched on BBC1 at 10.30 and the local news was on,turned to ITV news and the vote was showing live.”

Steve is correct. Overnights.tv confirms that the regional news started at 22:33, compared with 22:27 on Tuesday and 22:28 on Wednesday.

The following programme started at 22:45, compared with 22:39 on Tuesday and 22:40 on Wednesday.
grahamzxy
30-08-2013
Celebrity Juice 1.05m (6.0%) (172,000/1.8% +1)
Celebrity MasterChef 4.29m (20.5%)
DIY SOS 3.67m (17.5%)
Only Connect 1.40m (7.2%)
Dara O'Briain's Science School 1.08m (5.2%)
The Men Who Made Us Thin 1.06m (5.1%)
For the Love of Dogs 2.78m (13.3%) (118k/0.6% +1)
Tom Hardy's Poaching Wars 1.31m (6.2%)
Location, Location, Location 1.49m (7.1%) (354k/1.7% +1)
Burgled 1.50m (7.1%) (264k/1.6% +1)
Celebrity Big Brother 1.78m (8.5%)(245k/1.5% +1)
The Man Who Ate Himself to Death 1.30m (7.6%)(101k/1.1% +1)

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