don't bother staying awake on my account

zzzzzzzzz I know, I better go back do something meaningful ... and stop procrastinating... but I had to say it lol

I was going to say that I always thought he was a cunning linguist, but that would be virgin' on the ridiculous.

. This one's going on the "best quotes by FMs".

No he wasn't. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

He wasn't voted "A Winner" by the majority of the GBP,..he was voted the winner by something like less than 5% of the GBP......A minority of the GBP.

But BB5 wasn't the first BB that was "themed".
While BB5 had it's "evil" theme as an alternative to BB4,...BB4 had it's lovey, lovey, nicey, nicey, with sugar on the top theme as a contrast to the criticisms BB had because of the complaints about BB3.

It was an objective of BB4 to be all lovey, dovey,..and they wanted the housemates to have meaningful talks, be in harmony with each other, and they even hoped that people would fall in love.
At the start of BB4 they even had feng shui experts and interior designers explaining how they had desigened the BB house to facilitate this goal.

Cameron looked liked he fitted the spirit of this ideal perfectly, and his role was one they could use to support this fake image of peace and happiness, and being a Christian bible reader helped support this image even further.
They even made sure that most of Cameron's unpleasant side of his personality was kept out of the edits on the main CH4 show.

This idea might have worked for them if it wasn't for the fact that it all looked a bit too fake. With housemates being ever so nice to each other all the time, it just didn't feel right because it was obvious that for most of the time they were putting on a bit of a performance of being lovely nice people.
If it felt real, viewers might have had more positive feelings about the housemates,..but if it didn't feel right, and they just looked like they were just being falsely nice to each other to avoid being nominated, then the image of a loving, happy house might just look boring, because underneath many of us felt it wasn't real.

In the round, you're probably right, AM

But there was quite a bit of rowing and unpleasantness in BB4. just off the top of my head I can think of.......

Justine, Fed, Lisa, Ray & Sissy - all prickly characters not averse to the odd bit of aggro.

The abiding image, though, is of Gos, slumbering on the couch and announcing to anyone within earshot that 'this must be the best BB ever' before he had another forty winks.

I agree with a lot of what you've said Alrightmate and swingaleg. The introduction of Lisa broke up the cosy atmosphere of the house and exposed a nastier side to all of the remaining housemates especially Cameron with his strangling comment.
Even good old cuddly Gos said on his exit to Ray and Scott " make sure an outsider doesn't win BB" in direct reference to Lisa.
Ray was a very fiery character perhaps better suited to BB5 than BB4

This business about whether Endemol/C4 'care' who wins.

You could see, for example, that they might want Brian to win. He seemed a natural for TV and having a successful BB winer on telly, constantly referred to as 'BB Winner Brian Dowling, would be good publicity and might encourage more viewers for the next series, curious to see who the next 'Brian' might be.

Brian was a bit of an outstanding character, in BB terms. It's a bit more difficult to see why they would want Cameron over, say, Tania. Or Kate more than Spencer.

One assumes that they have stories ready for all the contestants, and whoever wins becomes 'the story'

I'm sure that BB4 was edited in Cameron's favour. I just can't see why they wanted him.

Bible-bashing virgin killjoy doesn't seem designed to appeal to their audience demography or, in fact, to any audience demography.

As it's turned out he's almost disappeared from the scene. And, according to the link above, is now back doing his old job. The only BB winner to go back to work.

Did Endemol just see something in Cameron that no one else did ?

Or did they just pick the wrong persom, hey, we all make mistakes, try harder next time.

He may have "Almost" disappeared for you lot down South, but he sure as hell hasn't disappeared for us here in Aberdeen.

As for returning to his old job, then it must be on a part time basis, either that or he gets helluva long holidays.

Not only did he do the talk the other day (kids from the school i work at were there), but he now seems to be a permanent performer in the xmas panto here. He also recently took part as a guinea pig in a nine week research study on the atkins diet at a local reseach institute, he has also been presenting a show for BBC Scotland about what it's like to be a teenager in today's Scotland, etc etc.



I wish he would disappear back to his old job.

Ah, but isn't he the boss ?

Yeah, well, the others are too busy ligging

Cameron ought to speak Scottish.....fck the dozen languages

I.e. he ought to get into our minds............he ain't got the first clue about any of the inner city Scottish mindset

........he should try understanding Glaswegians for a start...(and other cities) and who we are....maybe even try living our lives for even a day....take a walk round the streets and have a pint in the local pubs.

We in Glasgow never voted for him. He was outvoed by one of our own.........Federico.........prat, some might say...but at least that guy had guts to buck the system and liven up many an evening.....agree or not, but more importantly, he wasn't a church-going liar.

Another dotter ....

glad you were able to put them together

He lived in Edinburgh for a few years.

Cameron does "speak Scottish". You don't think that there's just one Scottish accent, do you?

And do you really believe (as you seem to) that Scotland consists only of Glasgow and possibly a few other cities? Do no real Scots live in small towns or in rural areas? Why do you think it is so essential for every Scot to be Glasgowcentric? Don't you think you might be being just a bit parochial?

Ah, the arrogance of some Glaswegians!

He may be, but he isn't doing much bossing at the moment.




Now he's even taken over Valentines day here.


http://www.thisisnorthscotland.co.uk...=sidebarsearch

I tell you, we are going to be lumbered with him forever.


Hammy

How long can he carry on the facade of "handsome bachelor" ?

Could we not get the bible basher, who keeps popping up, together with Cameron then maybe we would get a rest from her.

Oh dear, Hammy.........


You get all the bad weather and Cameron too...........hardly seems fair, does it ?


BTW, that must be the longest URL in the history of the internet...........

No it's isn't fair, so when is your end of the country going to take a turn at having him.



I was a bit shock myself when i saw it, all i can say thank god for the copy and paste function.


Hammy

I agree. But a final four of, say, Anouska, Fed, Sissy and Ray would have been electric viewing.

The thing which killed BB4 was the first night twist of instant nominations. Had this not been utilised, Anouska would have survived, and would have spiced up the house as a result.

After that, it was really the public's fault for removing Fed, Jon and Sissy pretty early on. But that was mainly because of unfortunate nomination results, and also because of Endemol's Cameron-centric production.

BB4 could have worked. It was just a pity it worked out like it did. Chance, choice of housemates and production killed it.

It was a funny old year for BB - the audience was smaller and possibly different - Cameron won with a vote that would have made him third in BB3 and I think BB2 too.

The worst winner ever of a show-didn't say a ****ing thing and claimed he was a non drinker so that he wouldn't get caught out in conversations.And yes he was a drinker.