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Freeview PVR’s - Sony RDR HXD-710 and RDR HXD-910 (merged) |
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ps fredjm31: are you sure the DVB stream is a constant rate?
- each channel uses the same load : I can't assert that - channels are constant bitrate : I can't assert that either |
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There are two separate options:
1) When you record a programme daily/weekly etc you get an "Update On" option. I'm guessing that this will affect only subsequent recordings if the time changes as it's not an option on one-off recordings. Bill |
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Just how noisy is the internal fan? The reason I ask is that if it replaces the bedroom VCR then would it keep you awake at night?
Bill Edit Just confirmed that the wooden unit is making it far worse, if I lift it off the unit the low frequency noise disappears. Last edited by Bunter1815 : 27-09-2005 at 21:55. |
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Originally Posted by Schizoid Mike
Thanks for the response porridge #316.
Does not make any rattling noises during the playback of programmes recorded onto the Hard Drive then? On a few region2 DVD’s we are sometimes lucky enough to get the DTS 5.1 sound track as well as the standard Dolby Digital 5.1. This is usually selectable via the DVD's own on screen menu, but the player must be able to decode and output the DTS signal via phono or digital optical link to a surround sound amp. The question was really can it decode and output DTS. Does it say in the manual that this is down to copyright as I was hoping to copy a DVD that has no copyright i.e. home video of a cactus exhibition? Could I record straight to DVD from another DVD player via the scart connection? I can hear mine reading and writing to the HDD when recording. Short infrequent bursts in LP mode about 3-4 seconds apart. On DTS.. As yet untested (don't have surround amplifier) but the manual says in the section on connecting the audio cords (whilst referring to connecting to a digital audio input jack and the digital coax/optical out on the unit) "If your AV amplifier (receiver) has a Dolby Digital, DTS, or MPEG audio decoder and a digital input jack, use this connection. You can enjoy Dolby Digital (5.1ch), DTS (5.1ch) and MPEG audio (5.1ch) surround effects." On DVD -> HDD... Yes, it is just down to copyright, I've recorded a home recorded DVD to HDD OK. Bill |
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Originally Posted by Tinpot Radio
I phoned Sony customer services and they comfirmed that DVD +R/+RW 16:9 recordings would revert to a 4:3 letterboxed format, but that -R/-RW should be OK.
Have any of you 710 owners managed to successfully burn a 16:9 freeview programme onto a -R/-RW disc, maintaining the correct aspect ratio? If you record in VR format it always gets the aspect ratio right, and if you you record on a -R in video mode it uses the aspect ratio you set in the menu, so I can't see why it doesn't work when recording from freeview in video mode. |
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Originally Posted by Schizoid Mike
Does it say in the manual that this is down to copyright as I was hoping to copy a DVD that has no copyright i.e. home video of a cactus exhibition? Could I record straight to DVD from another DVD player via the scart connection? |
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Sorry to waffle without adding to the general sum of human knowlege, but what a brilliant thread this has turned out to be - agonising months of suspense while Sony dithered about, wondering whether these machines were mere vaporware, tantalising snippets on retailer websites suddenly retracted, grey analog imports muddying the waters, the useless uselessness of Sony UK's press office and website... right through to actual machines in actual shops and actual users giving us all firsthand reports and feedback on what they're like in everyday use. Are all digital spy threads this longlived and this interesting ?
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I've just tried mine and I can successfully record a 16:9 freeview program to DVD-R and it keeps the correct aspect ratio when played back. I tried recording a 4:3 program too and that still played back as 16:9! I had exactly the same problem with my RDR-GXD500, in the end I just used DVD+RW discs for 4:3 material, and DVD-RW discs for 16:9. Thanks Paul21, that's really put my mind and wallet to rest! I'm sure the 910 will have exactly the same bugs as the 710, but as long as everything is do-able with some sort of jiggerypokery, then i'll be buying one. As someone said earlier on this thread, if you wait around for the perfect machine to arrive, you'll end up never buying anything!If you record in VR format it always gets the aspect ratio right, and if you you record on a -R in video mode it uses the aspect ratio you set in the menu, so I can't see why it doesn't work when recording from freeview in video mode. Thanks Again Tinpot Radio |
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Originally Posted by tomrob
Are all digital spy threads this longlived and this interesting ?
I have a couple of questions for the lucky owners of this machine: - Can you record from VCR (via scart) to DVD/HD? - When you record programmes from the EPG to HD, does it label the programmes with their proper EPG name? - Is there any way to 'pad' recordings so you don't miss the vital seconds at the beginning or end of a show? Channel 4 has the annoying habit of starting most programmes 1 minute early! |
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Question!
If I hook my TiVo (which uses Sky Digital) to the Sony 710, could I: a) Record off the internal Freeview tuner and watch Sky Digital at the same time b) Record off the internal Freeview tuner and RECORD Sky Digital at the same time c) Record music off my CDs onto the hard drive (preferably as MP3s) and then play them back via the machine With my current Sony DVD player, the original 710 I believe from 1998????, I have my TiVo box hooked up to my DVD player. When I want to watch TiVo, I just turn the DVD player off or press the TV/DVD button. If this is the same then a) should be possible. |
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Hello
Long time lurking on this thread but first post.
Picked up my RDR-HXD710 last Saturday and have not been dissapointed so far. The build quility is up to the usual sony good standard. Freeview quality is excellent as is the playback from HDD and DVD. I agree with Paul 21 about the menus switching the TV from 16:9 to 4:3 but this is only a small niggle. I suppose this is done to ensure compatibility with 4:3 displays. Maybe? On the noise issue, yes there is some fan noise but it's not enough to worry about and the HDD is silent so far. I had a Fusion FVT100 and that was chronic.. The power save function is great, when in standby it looks and sounds like it's been unplugged from the mains. The twin tuner issue was not a concern for me as I have enough trouble finding 1 thing good to watch/record never mind 2 things that are on at the same time. There's always bad old VHS just in case. As Porridge has experienced I have had no joy with the supposed fast dub from HDD to DVD either. I recorded the simpsons edited out the adverts as an excercise and then dubbed to DVD. The front display counts down the time remaining for the dub to complete and for a 22minute program it took.... 22 minutes... In fact I haven't even had the fast dub option available yet. I've been using 4X -RWs. I'm going to try dropping the recoded quality and have also just picked up some 8X -Rs to see if that helps. Only other problem to date is that a few recordings from the EPG have missed the first 1 minute or so. All in all very happy, just need to sort out this dub feature. |
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Originally Posted by Stig
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I have a couple of questions for the lucky owners of this machine: - Can you record from VCR (via scart) to DVD/HD? - When you record programmes from the EPG to HD, does it label the programmes with their proper EPG name? - Is there any way to 'pad' recordings so you don't miss the vital seconds at the beginning or end of a show? Channel 4 has the annoying habit of starting most programmes 1 minute early! Yes the HDD recordings are labeled from the EPG with name and date/time of recording. These can be changed manually and manual timer recordings can also be changed. Haven't found a way to 'pad' the recordings yet. Hope this is some help. |
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Originally Posted by Stig
Yes
I have a couple of questions for the lucky owners of this machine: - Can you record from VCR (via scart) to DVD/HD? - When you record programmes from the EPG to HD, does it label the programmes with their proper EPG name? - Is there any way to 'pad' recordings so you don't miss the vital seconds at the beginning or end of a show? Channel 4 has the annoying habit of starting most programmes 1 minute early! Yes, when you record programs using the EPG it will label them with their proper EPG name, when you look at the timer list each entry displays the program name as well. You can't pad timer setttings made with the EPG, this is a problem that existed in the RDR-GXD500 and Sony still haven't sorted it out. The only way to get round it is to manually set the timer. It's such a basic flaw and I can't understand why it wasn't picked up in inital testing, let alone carry through to the next product. |
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Originally Posted by centurian
As Porridge has experienced I have had no joy with the supposed fast dub from HDD to DVD either. I recorded the simpsons edited out the adverts as an excercise and then dubbed to DVD. The front display counts down the time remaining for the dub to complete and for a 22minute program it took.... 22 minutes... In fact I haven't even had the fast dub option available yet. I've been using 4X -RWs. I'm going to try dropping the recoded quality and have also just picked up some 8X -Rs to see if that helps. |
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Originally Posted by berno
Hello porridge,
Whilst browsing the web I came across these people. Perhaps they could help you. They list model No. RDRHX710 but not RDRHXD710. It might be worth contacting them to see if they can help. They mailed me back with this link so yes, they do do an upgrade. |
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Originally Posted by tomrob
Sorry to waffle without adding to the general sum of human knowlege, but what a brilliant thread this has turned out to be - agonising months of suspense while Sony dithered about, wondering whether these machines were mere vaporware, tantalising snippets on retailer websites suddenly retracted, grey analog imports muddying the waters, the useless uselessness of Sony UK's press office and website... right through to actual machines in actual shops and actual users giving us all firsthand reports and feedback on what they're like in everyday use. Are all digital spy threads this longlived and this interesting ?
Hear-Hear and well said!!
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Originally Posted by Paul21
I'm sure the fast dub option worked for me. When you have chosen the title from the title list and selected dub, there is any entry for the recording quality to use on the DVD (SP etc). One of the options is fast.
I selected the fast option. As an exercise it took 15 minutes to dub a 15 minute recording, then told me it would take 32 minutes to finalise it (so I could take DVD upstairs to watch). This is going to be a problem, though not a major one. A call to Sony, I think, unles any of you guys come up with a soluion? I'd be interested to hear how centurion gets on with faster DVDs...
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2) If you press the 'tools' button when in the timer list, you get a *global* "Rec Mode Adjust" (on/off) option. Anyone know what this does? cheers! murkle I think this automatically adjusts record mode (quality) based on available memory. I'll check later. |
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Originally Posted by Schizoid Mike
Thanks for the response porridge #316.
As Sony UK is somewhat slow in publishing details on their web site, then we will keep pestering you with silly questions. I am quite sure you’re more than happy to share your knowledge with us. More than happy (if I can )Thanks for elaborating on your questions, though I think others here have answered them fairly comprehensively... I think it's about time you bit the bullet and bought one!
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They mailed me back with this link so yes, they do do an upgrade.
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I think it's about time you bit the bullet and bought one!
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Fast dubbing ???????
I've never even seen the fast option when dubbing to DVD. My 710 was set to HQ+ mode and IIRC the manual says that fast dubbing wasn't an option for HQ+. So I turned it down to HQ and still no fast dubbing option. I can drop the quality if I wish, SP, LP, SEP etc for example. So the question is what quality are you recording in? If the analogue 710 spec from the sony Australia site are to be believed for the digital 710 it boasts a maximum of 64x dubbing HDD to DVD????? And to add further confusion http://www.dttboxes.co.uk/dvdrvcr/sony-rdrhxd710.html says "Up to 24x Speed Dubbing from HDD to DVD (4x in SLP mode)"????? I'll let you know how I get on with the 8x -Rs but I don't have much faith myself. Ah well they'll get used at some point. Your help is much appreciated, cheers..... |
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I've just done a dubbing test with a 48 minute SP recording I had on the hard drive. It took 3 minutes to dub this to a 8X Datasafe DVD-R, and a further 2 minutes to finalise. I could hear the DVD drive really speed up when it was dubbing.
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http://www.bestcameras.co.uk/shop/ac...rder_1345.html
This is very good if the description rather than the model number is correct |
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Originally Posted by Jags
Corned beef---- deef = deaf!! It's a form of hybrid cockney slang, but I'm Scots.
Anyway, you are a star! I've found the button under the sliding flap and it works perfectly. Many thanks. x x PS - did you find that by trial and error or in the book? Cos I couldn't find it in the book at all. Bill |
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