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Freeview PVR’s - Sony RDR HXD-710 and RDR HXD-910 (merged) |
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#126 |
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Originally Posted by Nirm
I think you've missed the point here Chappers - the need to actually record 2 different channels at the same time (eg. while away from the house)... and lets be honest, in plain ol' VCR days many of us wanted to do so and unless we had 2 VCRs couldn't - with even more choice with Freeview (and deliberate, irritating, time conflicts on competing channels), more and more want to do so!
Yesterday, I briefly visited my local Sony Centre, however no news to report other than September-ish. Sony addict I may be (and as you can see from the left, already have 2 DVB's from them), however no amount of coaxing (even if it was free!) will make me part with my credit card for either of the Sony white elephants... basically no twin no win, sorry Sony, you really have missed the boat this time... and I actually feel in the past 18 months or so that they are losing direction as a whole which is worrying for such a technology stalwart ![]() |
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#127 |
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That's not a very positive outlook
Nirm, I get what you mean, but to be fair, I've managed for long enough with a single channel recorder, and I'm sure I can go on without twin tuners. The product looks to meet my needs, in that it is HDD/DVDR/Freeview. Any features beyond that would be a bonus in my eyes. The number of times I've wanted desperately to record two channels simultaneous is so few, not having twin tuners really wouldn't bother me. Price estimates are already looking like this is going to be an expensive piece of kit, and one of the first of it's kind. I'm sure it won't be long before some manufacturer adds a twin tuner (LG I'm guessing). Maybe in a year or two's time, Sony will do the same. But in the mean time, i want to get shot of my VCR, DTT box, and maybe my DVD player, and this product looks like it will kill all the birds I'm wanting it to right now. |
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The competition
My question was going to be "how many dual tuner freeview HDD recorders are there anyway?". I decided to do my own research (rather than get moaned at) so I have lifted the following from another thread: Quote:
Originally Posted by marcdavis
Single record PVRs
Pace Twin (20Gb) £115 delivery free www.directelectronics.co.uk Sagem PVR6240t (40Gb) £129.99 delivery local store or £4.99 www.argos.co.uk Humax PVR-8000t (40Gb) £122 delivery £7.99 www.shop.edirectory.co.uk TopUp TV Digicorder T1 (40Gb) £203.40 delivery £7.50 www.sateuropa.co.uk Humax PVR-8000t-80 (80Gb) £126.34 delivery £6 www.247electrical.co.uk Sagem PVR6280t (80Gb) £147.24 delivery £6 varies ws3.homecinematv.co.uk Bush IDVDR80IB (80Gb) £169 delivery £3.50 www. additionsdirect.co.uk Sagem PVR6680t (80Gb) £199.99 delivery free www.johnlewis.co.uk TopUp TV Digicorder T1 (80Gb) £278.99 delivery free www.ecscards.co.uk Dual record PVRs Fusion FVRT100 (40Gb) £121.05 delivery free www.tribaluk.com Thompson DHD4000 (40Gb) £146.21 delivery free premier.shopelectricals.com Bush IDPVR02 (40Gb) £199.99 delivery £2.95 www.lxdirect.com Fusion FVRT150 (80Gb) £179.99 delivery free www.argos.co.uk Fusion FVRT200 (80Gb) £177.00 delivery £7.99 www.shop.edirectory.com Bush IDPVR802 (80Gb) £179.99 delivery £2.95 www.lxdirect.com Inverto IDL7000t (80Gb) £219 delivery free www.unbeatable.co.uk Panasonic TUCTH100 (80Gb) £229.99 delivery free www.superfi.co.uk TopUp TV Topfield TF5800t (160Gb) £265.99 delivery £6 varies ws3.homecinematv.co.uk My conclusion: this is still an immature market. The technology is still moving very fast. People are now wanting HD ready products! I'm sure Sony and the other big names (Philips, Toshiba, JVC, Pioneer) have products they will bring to the market when they think the market is ready. |
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The technology is still moving very fast.
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Let's be honest, the only big name on the list is Panasonic. All the other 'cheap and cheerful' manufacturers are not going to be taken seriously by prospective Sony buyers.
For anyone who thinks that single tuner is enough, you can't miss what you've never had. But once you've had dual tuner, you will never go back. Even if you don't think there are two things on at the same time that you'd want to record, it's still best to pad a minute or two at beginning and end (there is no PDC equivalent on Freeview). So single tuner does not handle back-to-back recordings very well. |
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Just looked at the Avland site:
http://www.avland.co.uk/sony/rdrhxd910/rdrhxd910.htm Says the 910 is discontinued. Same for the 710. What? |
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So what's happened? The theme of part of this thread is manufacturers milking the single tuner DVD/HDD market before introducing dual tuners. Does this mean the corporate "nice people" are trying to milk analogue before introducing digital DVD / HDD?
Is this a Sony or Avland issue? I think a trip to the local Sony centre is in order..!
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Servo, I assume there is a Sony cente in Mell square? You go there I'll go to London Rd (or East St!)
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Just at the back - you know Solihull?
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Lived there for 6 years - '87 - '93. Nice place. Better now it is pedestrianised.
On the main subject - Does this really mean Sony have withdrawn these units? |
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Have emailed Sony. Bet you that will not be answered. So many companies are complete sh1te at responding to email! (one of the best was Denon for what its worth)
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I too contacted Sony (UK). They replied very promptly! They stated that whilst there is still no release date for these models, they are not discontinued.
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Avland say that Sony have altered the pricing for on-line retailers so Avland cannot make enough margin. Hence Avland have discontinued, not Sony. Pity
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I always tended to buy my Sony stuff from indigo-av.co.uk, but their website seems to be down right now.
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... unfortunately, I think they have missed the boat again!
Yes, the DVB version will come out and yes the 710 oozes quality like the rest of my Sony equipment, however, being the "proud" owner (for all its misgivings, some to be solved soon), the Panasonic TUCTH100, apart from not having a DVDR, has 2 tuners and are incredibly useful ( I often find that I am recording 2 channels - especially to pad out EPG timings, whilst another commences - and watching a recorded item or recently, and I didn't think I would, chase playing a live programme) ...Please, please Sony bring out a twin DVB tuner and you will rule the world again ![]() All I can say is and roll-out Humax PVR-9200T (Twin Tuner) and roll-on December for, hopefully, the improved and all new Panasonic TUCTH200 - twins rule
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Gimme gimme!
The thread may be quiet, but if the HXD710 were available I'd be very tempted to buy one.
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The thread may be quiet, but if the HXD710 were available I'd be very tempted to buy one.
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The thread may be quiet, but if the HXD710 were available I'd be very tempted to buy one.
Usually means its about to release? (710 this is). I see no need for two tuners, until last night where we were watching one thing and the Humax8K wanted to tape another ![]() Perhaps there is something to say for twin tuners after all, or perhaps just buy two boxes like the old VCR days?! ![]() I agree that freeview has much choice and conflicts though, I have kept my old Pioneer digibox plugged in for such occurences, no help last night as we had paused for 15 minutes for a phone call. See the more you use these features.. the more features you want, let this be a lesson to all of you! Paul. |
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I see no need for two tuners, until last night where we were watching one thing and the Humax8K wanted to tape another
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I've skimmed through the posts but can't find a definitive answer whether the 710 or 910 will have a dual tuner.
Anyone know for sure? |
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I don't know for sure, but I was under the impression they were both single tuner...
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At the moment Sony seem more interested in launching MP3 Players (oooooops sorry, that should be ATRAC Players) on a saturated mobile media market than satisfying our need for a range of high quality, infinitely versatile DVD Recorders with HDDs and Digital Tuners.
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Originally Posted by planetnokia
At the moment Sony seem more interested in launching MP3 Players (oooooops sorry, that should be ATRAC Players) on a saturated mobile media market than satisfying our need for a range of high quality, infinitely versatile DVD Recorders with HDDs and Digital Tuners.
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Originally Posted by pauljavajedi
For what its worth, there is a review in What HiFi this month (tiny, not worth buying it for, but so short you can read it in the shop sized).
Usually means its about to release? (710 this is). What does this mean for the release schedule? Who knows... |
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