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Old 23-08-2013, 21:42
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I'm currently rewatching Series 3, I've always loved the series, and the character Martha, but theres something I've noticed in particular during this run through, her reactions and sayings. I've watched all of New Who, and it seems that every companion seems to go travelling with the Doctor and they seem to not take in the whole experience, especially in comparison to Martha, for example, Martha's first trip, to the past, she steps out "Oh my, we did it, we really did it, we traveled in time" where as from my memory, the other companions just step out of the tardis, take it in for all but a second then move on, where as Martha continued to go on about the problems of travelling in time and being careful, etc which I personally think added a sense of realism to her expereince, I also think the fact that she was black added something really interesting to her story, like the troubles and difficulties she may experience, this was highlighted in Human Nature and Family of Blood. And personally it added a interesting element to the episodes.
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Old 24-08-2013, 00:08
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I sort of understand where you're coming from... I always think they seem to take to it very quickly and like when Clara said 'yeah I'm fine with that' or something when the Doctor asked if she was okay with him being alien, I think I'd be accepting but still a little surprised haha, I guess it depends on the character
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Old 24-08-2013, 00:12
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I personally think all the characters have reacted realistically to what is put in front of them, the problem is that when they have to face the issue of time/space travel they've already seen things that are impossible, which makes the explanations for them or the things that follow less surprising. Donna was teleported straight into the TARDIS and reacted to that, Amy witnessed the Doctor time-travelling before she travelled with him, Rose witnessed the Autons and Clara saw the wifi. They all reacted brilliantly to the TARDIS in their own ways and it's natural that they all needed proof to believe it, Martha as much as the others. I also loved how they didn't pass off Martha being black and integrated it into the historical storylines, even in small ways.
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Old 24-08-2013, 00:38
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Martha had a science/medicine background so it's not surprising that she would be challenging the physics etc of time travel the first one really since Liz.

Each companion has a background identy which informs their reactions to time travel. Sarah Jane was working a story, Rose wanted escape and challenge from a boring predictable life.
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Old 24-08-2013, 09:31
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I get what the OP means about Martha's acute awareness of her surroundings & her physical location in space & time - but I think Donna also 'sold' her awareness of her situation when she found herself face-to-face with an alien.

When she & the Doctor found the dying Ood for instance, or 'waving at fat!'. Her location she could be typically 'matter of fact' about. But pop an alien in front of her & you immediately sensed she was completely out of her depth.
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Old 24-08-2013, 11:05
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It's a fair point - Rose was looking for escape and adventure, Donna and Martha were both looking for a direction for their lives, in their own ways. That's got to inform their reactions in some way. In retrospect, they've always done quite a good job at that.

I would agree that Martha is more likely to be thinking about the mechanics of the situation they're in, whereas Donna is a bit more in tune with the experience.
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Old 24-08-2013, 11:07
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Personally, I think Rory was always very aware of what the whole travelling in the TARDIS thing was. He always seemed a bit wary at first when travelling and seemed unsure of how to react to the surroundings. He felt the most natural of all the companions so far in Nu-Who for me anyway because of that. He was reacting like the man on the street would - very wary and somewhat puzzled by it all.

Amy was the get-up and go kind of counter balance to him, but she showed it well at the beginning of the Beast Below. It did take her a little while for it all to compute with her. After that episode, it did become a little less apparent, but I still think it was there.

Rory though was the main 'reactor' type of companion of the Ponds if you ask me,
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Old 24-08-2013, 11:43
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I think one of the main difficulties with companion introducing is that the Doctors life is so mental and out of the ordinary that people would explode if they tried to believe it all in one go. Time Travel, Aliens, Bigger on the Inside, etc. That's why I think a good companion story has to kind of introduce these elements elsewhere in the narrative so they don't seem weird to the companion. If they face Aliens elsewhere, then the Doctor being an alien won't be so shocking.
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Old 24-08-2013, 16:18
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Personally, I think Rory was always very aware of what the whole travelling in the TARDIS thing was. He always seemed a bit wary at first when travelling and seemed unsure of how to react to the surroundings. He felt the most natural of all the companions so far in Nu-Who for me anyway because of that. He was reacting like the man on the street would - very wary and somewhat puzzled by it all.

Amy was the get-up and go kind of counter balance to him, but she showed it well at the beginning of the Beast Below. It did take her a little while for it all to compute with her. After that episode, it did become a little less apparent, but I still think it was there.

Rory though was the main 'reactor' type of companion of the Ponds if you ask me,
I think that Amy's reaction to being inside the TARDIS was pretty spot on. Also there's the additional scene from the DVD that shows her dealing with the Doctor being an alien and all which is pretty good as well.

Also Donna's reaction to things in The Fires of Pompeii was pretty good as well.
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Old 25-08-2013, 00:31
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I think one of the main difficulties with companion introducing is that the Doctors life is so mental and out of the ordinary that people would explode if they tried to believe it all in one go. Time Travel, Aliens, Bigger on the Inside, etc. That's why I think a good companion story has to kind of introduce these elements elsewhere in the narrative so they don't seem weird to the companion. If they face Aliens elsewhere, then the Doctor being an alien won't be so shocking.
I think one of the best reactions was Jackson Lake's in The Next Doctor when he saw the inside of the TARDIS - on one level he was enthused, but then it was just too much, and he couldn't deal with it.
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Old 25-08-2013, 18:28
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I'm currently rewatching Series 3, I've always loved the series, and the character Martha, but theres something I've noticed in particular during this run through, her reactions and sayings. I've watched all of New Who, and it seems that every companion seems to go travelling with the Doctor and they seem to not take in the whole experience, especially in comparison to Martha, for example, Martha's first trip, to the past, she steps out "Oh my, we did it, we really did it, we traveled in time" where as from my memory, the other companions just step out of the tardis, take it in for all but a second then move on, where as Martha continued to go on about the problems of travelling in time and being careful, etc which I personally think added a sense of realism to her expereince, I also think the fact that she was black added something really interesting to her story, like the troubles and difficulties she may experience, this was highlighted in Human Nature and Family of Blood. And personally it added a interesting element to the episodes.
Yeah I think Martha is underrated. She was not the best companion but she's a very enjoyable and sympathetic one with a lot of layers. There's nothing I dislike about her character but she suffers from being sandwiched between Rose and Donna who had much more epic story arcs. But the realism of Martha is what makes me like her, her low key exit for example.
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Old 25-08-2013, 23:05
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Yeah I think Martha is underrated. She was not the best companion but she's a very enjoyable and sympathetic one with a lot of layers. There's nothing I dislike about her character but she suffers from being sandwiched between Rose and Donna who had much more epic story arcs. But the realism of Martha is what makes me like her, her low key exit for example.
Her low key exit is what I love her for and made me fully respect her and probably was the thing that made her my favourite companion. I find that scene very relatable too. It was my favourite exit in New Who, no huge drama where the companion is gone forever (but Rose and Donna's cases, they weren't technically gone forever). It was perfect for her.
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