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What about that can't you understand? It was put to bed long ago.
And neither does your club. "Club" means The Rangers Football Club Ltd, a company... |
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Oh I understand it. I just don't agree with it.
And neither does your club. "Club" means The Rangers Football Club Ltd, a company... New / old, club / company, whatever, all I know is that Rangers continue to be an entertaining watch. |
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If the rumours of Felix Magath coming in are true then it could get interesting on the park as well.
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That stuff's all a bit boring though ( well I reckon for the vast majority of folk it is ).
New / old, club / company, whatever, all I know is that Rangers continue to be an entertaining watch. in opposition to this there are few newspaper headlines, although the newspapers have all since stated we are the same club, quotes from some ex players with no expert knowledge of the situation from two years ago, a mythical scots law which mentions football clubs which no-one can provide and various easy debunked crackpot theories which dont stand up to the slightest of scrutiny |
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Oh I understand it. I just don't agree with it.
And neither does your club. "Club" means The Rangers Football Club Ltd, a company... |
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If the rumours of Felix Magath coming in are true then it could get interesting on the park as well.
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Why, is he playing?
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I'd be more inclined to believe the company that's actually being discussed.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-NnMcEIgAAEFoY.jpg [i]"Club" means...a company.[/I] The company, and thus the club, was liquidated. A new company, and therefore club, was incorporated. Strange the continuing obsession with a football club that supposedly no longer exists.
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Why, is he playing?
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He owns lots of rangers shares I think
Can't wait to read about the new warchest. |
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NEW company running the football club
OLD and STILL THE SODDING SAME FOOTBALL CLUB being run by the new company morons |
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NEW company running the football club
OLD and STILL THE SODDING SAME FOOTBALL CLUB being run by the new company morons Its not though. Football clubs are companies, check the SFA/SPFL/UEFA rule books, you literally cannot play in those competitions if your Club is not a company. Because to play in those compeitions you need to be paid by them/pay them money to go to other clubs which cannot be done legally otherwise. Rangers formed 1872, incorportated in 1896 snuffed it in 2012. No company running a football club, if it was the company running the football club, the football club would have been sold to someone else and Rangers would still be in the Premier League, nothing would have happened. But the Club went into Admin, then it got liquidated and all it's assets were sold, bought up by Charles Green and associates who created a new football club called Rangers and applied to join the SPL got rejected, then tried to join the SFL and were accepted into the bottom tier as long as they could get a license to play from the SFA, which they did they were given a temporary license.
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Its not though.
Football clubs are companies, check the SFA/SPFL/UEFA rule books, you literally cannot play in those competitions if your Club is not a company. Because to play in those compeitions you need to be paid by them/pay them money to go to other clubs which cannot be done legally otherwise. Rangers formed 1872, incorportated in 1896 snuffed it in 2012. No company running a football club, if it was the company running the football club, the football club would have been sold to someone else and Rangers would still be in the Premier League, nothing would have happened. But the Club went into Admin, then it got liquidated and all it's assets were sold, bought up by Charles Green and associates who created a new football club called Rangers and applied to join the SPL got rejected, then tried to join the SFL and were accepted into the bottom tier as long as they could get a license to play from the SFA, which they did they were given a temporary license. ![]() Read this: Quote:
Doncaster said: “In terms of the question about old club, new club, that was settled very much by the Lord Nimmo Smith commission that was put together by the SPL to look at EBT payments at that time. Now who do we believe. The finest legal brains in the country, chief executive of the SPFL, UEFA and the ASA or shady, tracksuit wearing Celtic fans? “The decision, very clearly from the commission, was that the club is the same, the club continues, albeit it is owned by a new company, but the club is the same. “It’s the same club, absolutely. “The member club is the entity that participates in our league and we have 42 member clubs. “Those clubs may be owned by a company, sometimes it’s a Private Limited Company, sometimes it’s a PLC, but ultimately, the company is a legal entity in its own right, which owns a member club that participates in the league. “It was put to bed by the Lord Nimmo Smith commission some while ago – it’s the same club.”
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Not another fantasist making it up as they go along.
Read this: Now who do we believe. The finest legal brains in the country, chief executive of the SPFL, UEFA and the ASA or shady, tracksuit wearing Celtic fans? ![]() How did Rangers end up in the 4th tier after finishing 2nd in the Premier despite never being relegated or demoted? Pan Bread! |
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See questions no former Rangers or current Sevco fans can answer because they can't. Because they know the old club vanished after finishing 2nd and the new club joined the bottom division.
Dress it up as Rangers, call it Rangers, sing the same songs, play in the same stadium - its a good tribute act to the old club but no matter how hard you try thats all it'll be a Tribute Act. |
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Rangers have the same SFA membership we first got about 140 years ago. The only change was the company that now operates the football club (or football business) taking on the running of it. However the transfer of the SPL "share" was not approved so we went into the SFL. Going into a different division doesn't make you a different club.
But if you Celtic fans want to go on and on fixating on a football club you claim is dead and gone, so be it. ![]() Anyway the new stuff is that Dave King and his allies have taken control at Ibrox, from Ashley and his minions. Things aren't going to be easy but this is surely good news for Rangers fans. |
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Rangers have the same SFA membership we first got about 140 years ago. The only change was the company that now operates the football club (or football business) taking on the running of it. However the transfer of the SPL "share" was not approved so we went into the SFL. Going into a different division doesn't make you a different club.
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Why did a Club already in the SPL apply to join the SPL? a Club already in possession of an SFA License have to apply for an SFA License?
How did Rangers end up in the 4th tier after finishing 2nd in the Premier despite never being relegated or demoted? Pan Bread! |
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There's no need to tie yourself in knots. The SFA confirmed that Rangers did not go through the process that would have applied to a new club. Moreover, if we were a new club we would have needed a new membership - and we didn't.
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The SFA membership was transferred. Yet according to the SFA, it's clubs that are members. So if the current "Rangers" are the same club as the old Rangers, why did the membership need to be transferred? Surely it just stayed with the club while the company changed?
Rangers said: "They argued the club in its current form has only existed for two years. It is disappointing Dundee United tried to pursue this tiresome, legally incorrect and provocative argument." You're just as wrong as it gets. The finest legal minds have been through this and some people just can't grasp basic facts. |
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The finest legal minds have been through this.
The Rangers are so adamant they're not a new club, yet haven't actually put it to the test themselves from a legal point of view. Plenty of individuals and organisations have opened themselves up to liable action, if The Rangers are to be believed, but none has been forthcoming. Funny, that. |
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Why did a Club already in the SPL apply to join the SPL? a Club already in possession of an SFA License have to apply for an SFA License?
How did Rangers end up in the 4th tier after finishing 2nd in the Premier despite never being relegated or demoted? Pan Bread! |
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The SFA membership was transferred. Yet according to the SFA, it's clubs that are members. So if the current "Rangers" are the same club as the old Rangers, why did the membership need to be transferred? Surely it just stayed with the club while the company changed?
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Well done Falkirk dreadful game in the windy weather.
Picture quality was terrible and it kept breaking up as there is no bbc2 scotland hd on Virgin. It looked like the game was filmed on someone's mobile |
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They really haven't.
The Rangers are so adamant they're not a new club, yet haven't actually put it to the test themselves from a legal point of view. Plenty of individuals and organisations have opened themselves up to liable action, if The Rangers are to be believed, but none has been forthcoming. Funny, that. nonentites have made various claims and no-one apart from clowns on messageoards are still comng out with the new club lunacy and i generally take the ramblings of people who dont understand the difference between libel and liable with a pinch of salt
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