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Celtic will only ever get a challenge once Rangers are back in the SPL.
Tiill then the title race is over before it starts. Those teams you mention will never challenge Celtic. The lack of competition means more often than not Celtic will be embarrassed in Europe. But given the problems they have in their boardroom, i dont think they will be ready for the first year to win the top spot, they may be in the spl for a couple of seasons before winning. |
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Kenny Shiels to takeover as Morton manager on Monday with David Hopkin as his assistant according to STV
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When Rangers come back they won't have much money to spend. It will take years for you to challange us again.
i honestly think we may struggle our 1st season back (struggle for 1st place) ...but it will be doable... by 2nd season we will back to making history , and your team will be in 2nd place where it rightfully belongs bookmark this post , so you can come back in a few years to see how right i am but for now the only thing needing challenged is your spelling of challenge
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...where it rightfully belongs
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Kenny Shiels to takeover as Morton manager on Monday with David Hopkin as his assistant according to STV
Pleased to see Hoppy as assistant giving continuity in terms of knowledge of our squad. Post match interviews should be interesting
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Sevco might never challenge Celtic for the SPL. The old club challenged us and I think from 2000 until their death the highest amount of points they won the League by was 6 points.
Yet from 2000 until their death, they had investment of £10million from Dave King, £20million from Joe Lewis, David Murray shifted £50million of debt to MIH, they saved something like £25million in Tax and National insurance by using EBT's, conned Ticketus out of £24million and still snuffed it with other debts. If you call that a total of £130million they squandered in 12 years, on average £11million a year they had from 2000-2012 that wasnt within their own means and yet with that additional money they could only scrape League wins then what would make up for that in the New Club to be able to challenge? Especially as Celtic are now richer than we've ever been. Sevco will need a lot of luck or probably another £20-40million of investement. Rangers death was directly attributed to their attempts to challenge Celtic, theres no reason why Sevco wont go the same way if they attempt to do the same and if they dont attempt to do the same then how can they really challenge considering financially they will be a lot weaker than Rangers? Sevco wont be able to sign a single player that Celtic want probably ever unless the player supports them because 1. The player will choose the bigger club, 2. The player will want the most money and 3. The club will want the best deal. There is no real quality SPL players the now but if the new Paul Lamberts, Steven Fletchers, James McCarthys and Jackie McNamaras come along there is only 1 Scottish club they are joining. |
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Also "Uefa rules prohibit messages of a political and ideological nature being displayed in a stadium." do they aye? what about that Mandela banner they made everyone stand behind at all the games and did they miss the big "We want to vote Independance" banner Barcelona had at the game?
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Sevco might never challenge Celtic for the SPL. The old club challenged us and I think from 2000 until their death the highest amount of points they won the League by was 6 points.
Yet from 2000 until their death, they had investment of £10million from Dave King, £20million from Joe Lewis, David Murray shifted £50million of debt to MIH, they saved something like £25million in Tax and National insurance by using EBT's, conned Ticketus out of £24million and still snuffed it with other debts. If you call that a total of £130million they squandered in 12 years, on average £11million a year they had from 2000-2012 that wasnt within their own means and yet with that additional money they could only scrape League wins then what would make up for that in the New Club to be able to challenge? Especially as Celtic are now richer than we've ever been. Sevco will need a lot of luck or probably another £20-40million of investement. Rangers death was directly attributed to their attempts to challenge Celtic, theres no reason why Sevco wont go the same way if they attempt to do the same and if they dont attempt to do the same then how can they really challenge considering financially they will be a lot weaker than Rangers? Sevco wont be able to sign a single player that Celtic want probably ever unless the player supports them because 1. The player will choose the bigger club, 2. The player will want the most money and 3. The club will want the best deal. There is no real quality SPL players the now but if the new Paul Lamberts, Steven Fletchers, James McCarthys and Jackie McNamaras come along there is only 1 Scottish club they are joining. |
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Its a joke, especially considering Ajax got two seperate fines totalling that 1 for an illicit banner and the other for violence at Celtic Park.
Also "Uefa rules prohibit messages of a political and ideological nature being displayed in a stadium." do they aye? what about that Mandela banner they made everyone stand behind at all the games and did they miss the big "We want to vote Independance" banner Barcelona had at the game? |
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Any Scottish player of quality wouldn't go to Celtic when they can go to England and get more money, play in a competitive league and get more exposure. That 6-1 drubbing off Barcelona won't have people knocking your door down to sign for you.
Barcelona 5-0 Real Madrid & 6-2 Barcelona 4-1 Arsenal Barcelona 4-0 Ajax Barcelona 4-0 Bayern Munich Barcelona 6-1 Atletico Madrid & 5-0 Barcelona 4-0 AC Milan Barcelona 6-0 Valencia & 5-1 Barcelona 5-2 Lyon Barcelona 5-2 Sporting Libson Barcelona 7-1 Bayer Leverkusen Barcelona 5-0 Basel Barcelona 4-0 Stuttgart Barcelona 5-1 Shakhtar Donetsk Barcelona 5-1 Panathinaikos Barcelona 5-0 BATE Barcelona 4-0 Viktoria Plzen Barcelona 4-0 Santos Barcelona 5-0 Deportivo Barcelona 5-0 Sevilla Barcelona 5-0 Villarreal Barcelona 5-1 Athletic Bilbao Barcelona 5-0 Real Betis Barcelona 5-0 Real Sociedad Barcelona 5-0 Espanyol Barcelona 5-0 Mallorca Barcelona 5-0 Cordoba Barcelona 6-0 Malaga Barcelona 6-0 Valladolid Barcelona 6-1 Sporting Gijon Barcelona 6-1 Getafe Barcelona 6-1 Zaragoza Barcelona 7-0 Levante Barcelona 7-0 Rayo Vallecano Barcelona 8-0 Almeria Barcelona 8-0 Osasuna Barcelona 9-0 Hospitalet Thats only going back to 2008 too. |
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What an odd expression in this context.
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and your team will be in 2nd place where it rightfully belongs
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not really if you included the whole sentence
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not really if you included the whole sentence
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Maybe but we're hardly the first team to get badly beat off Barcelona...
Barcelona 5-0 Real Madrid & 6-2 Barcelona 4-1 Arsenal Barcelona 4-0 Ajax Barcelona 4-0 Bayern Munich Barcelona 6-1 Atletico Madrid & 5-0 Barcelona 4-0 AC Milan Barcelona 6-0 Valencia Barcelona 5-2 Lyon Barcelona 5-2 Sporting Libson Barcelona 7-1 Bayer Leverkusen Barcelona 5-0 Basel Barcelona 4-0 Stuttgart Barcelona 5-1 Shakhtar Donetsk Barcelona 5-1 Panathinaikos Barcelona 5-0 Deportivo Barcelona 5-0 Sevilla Barcelona 5-0 Villarreal Barcelona 5-1 Athletic Bilbao Barcelona 5-0 Real Betis Barcelona 5-0 Real Sociedad Barcelona 5-0 Espanyol Barcelona 6-0 Malaga Barcelona 6-0 Valladolid Barcelona 6-1 Sporting Gijon Barcelona 6-1 Zaragoza Barcelona 7-0 Levante Barcelona 7-0 Rayo Vallecano Barcelona 8-0 Almeria Barcelona 8-0 Osasuna Barcelona 9-0 Hospitalet Thats only going back to 2008 too. |
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6-1 was almost flattering to Celtic, it could have gone double figures and that's withhout Messi or Iniesta. There is no positive spin to be put on that performance. Especially when a strong European campaign is supposed to be a draw for talented foreigners to sign for Celtic. Played 6 lost 5 and minus 11 goal difference is a very poor return in a group that featured a misfiring Milan and Ajax who didn't look anything special. You'd have to think a talented players agent would be steering them down south to put themselves in the shop window.
For a lot of players their only chance to play the likes of Barcelona, Juventus, AC Milan, Ajax, Benfica etc is at teams like Celtic. |
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damn the comedy post award is getting passed around in here
i honestly think we may struggle our 1st season back (struggle for 1st place) ...but it will be doable... by 2nd season we will back to making history , and your team will be in 2nd place where it rightfully belongs bookmark this post , so you can come back in a few years to see how right i am but for now the only thing needing challenged is your spelling of challenge ![]() |
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weird kick off time in stenny for todys game v rangers
wouldnt wann be the camerman for bt , they have built a shady looking scaffold tower thats waving in the wind |
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weird kick off time in stenny for todys game v rangers
wouldnt wann be the camerman for bt , they have built a shady looking scaffold tower thats waving in the wind |
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Celtic belong at the top, its why our biggest rivals died trying to keep us off it
![]() Found this quite interesting, I wonder if you will? |
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Dark Mingwall suspended and asked to resign from the RST over 'improper conduct'
Is this a sign that fans are looking for a fresh start? |
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Darren fletcher on as sub for Man U so he will be straight in the next Scotland squad I assume
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Darren fletcher on as sub for Man U so he will be straight in the next Scotland squad I assume
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http://galluspioneer.wordpress.com/2...wco-the-proof/
Found this quite interesting, I wonder if you will? |
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they have built a shady looking scaffold tower thats waving in the wind ![]()
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