No, because if we win our next three games we'll be on 20 points. If Poland win their two games not against us, they'll be on 20 points - but we go above them on head-to-head.

If Poland do win those games, it means Ireland have lost one of theirs, putting them on no more than 18 points. If Ireland beat Poland, Ireland have 21 points and finish second; Poland would have 17 points and we finish 3rd.

1-0 Germany.

Well what an utterly spineless display thus far and Germany score the softest of openers against a packed defence.

This could be a hammering but we will probably try and defend for the next 70 minutes ...

You can see this being a bit of a doing to be honest

2 - 2 now

Wow never expected that

Crazy game so far.

Poor Scotland performance yet 2-2 at HT and 0-0 in Dublin.

You still fear another glorious failure tale

Another silly goal conceded.

Ireland win 1-0

Thought they did ok but it's the Georgia result that will ensure we don't make the play offs.

Something I have wondered for a while does Strachan ever actually watch the English based players in games.

I am not convinced he does

Just seen the view on Twitter of what some wheelchair users got at hampden, with the height of the advertising led boards they barely saw a thing.

Utter disgrace.

He does on telly.

One thing noticeable was when the double substitution was made usually you would get an injection of energy from the crowd, yet when Martin and Ritchie went on there was nothing.

Chris Martin being my prime example in reference to my previous post.

Apparently he only had to get himself fit to get a place in the squad he was told

It looks like RTL had their own cameras on the opposite side of the ground, like ITV usually do for England games. That in turn meant German electronic advertising board being put in front of the South Stand.

But it's no excuse. Either the disabled section should have been moved higher, or the SFA refusing to accommodate the boards.

So if Ireland lose at home to Germany and away to Poland, Scotland will only need a draw against the Poles with the guarantee of 3 points against Gibralter.

True but what is continuously forgotten is that a probably draw with Poland and Ireland will see them finish second and third

Yup, or if we get 6 points they must get at least two draws(can't see that happening).

Poland is massive.

Only worry is they play weakened teams having already qualified. Hopefully they'll fight for top spot

Ireland need 3 points if Scotland get 6 as Scotland lead on head to head.

We're still in with a chance as ROI have a couple of tough games.

Obviously we need to get something from Poland which won't be easy.

Time for a change of manager.

Not playing in form Gordon and Griffiths is almost as bad as the no striker formation.

I wonder if that's due to the pitch being raised for the commonwealth games? I'm sure the running track is underneath?

The pitch was dug up and the running track was built on top (on steel columns). Everything was restored to normal after the games.

The problem, as I said, was RTL using their own cameras in the North Stand. This led to additional electronic advertising in front of the South Stand, which obstructed the view.

Can understand your frustration at Griffiths but Marshall has every right to be in the team