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Celtic also wished good luck to the Celtic players in the Scotland squad. Its a non story. Nice to see you get offended about nothing.
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Not the whole Scotland squad? Even then, Celtic only wished them luck after getting stick for wishing ROI luck.
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The best goalkeeper is McGregor, the last good centre back we had was Weir, the best player we have is Naismith even at left back the best Scottish left back is Lee Wallace and Strachan goes with crap like Whittaker. His loyalty to dross like Brown and Forrest and Fletcher and other out of form crap is what cost us.
A crap manager who can't change it when it is going wrong. [ Quote:
Most of the goals we have lost this campaign have been in the avoidable position - in fact I would say schoolboys would be cringing at most of the goals we have lost in the important games.
Isn't the problem Scotland don't have good defenders.If Alan Hutton is the best choice at right back that's a major problem. There is a shortage of quality centre halves. |
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So Murray Park hasn't produced many quality players. Thanks for confirming what we already knew.
[ Isn't the problem Scotland don't have good defenders. If Alan Hutton is the best choice at right back that's a major problem. There is a shortage of quality centre halves. The centre backs aren't great but neither are Ireland's or Northern Ireland or Wales. Terrible manager who can't get a result when it matters most because he chooses and will continue to choose the wrong team are what matters. |
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Whats the big deal anyway? Scotland lost because they weren't good enough, not because of a good luck tweet.
The excuse about O'Neill is a cracker right enough. Couldn't mark their neck with a blowtorch. |
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So England, Northern Ireland and Wales all qualify and we can't even take it to the last game. Strachan has to go now. We are a laughing stock.
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Hutton, McGregor, Adam and Wilson have all come through, 2 of them your team bought and 3 of them are still involved with the Scotland squad. Wilson is a good centre back whose career development nosedived going to Liverpool.
The centre backs aren't great but neither are Ireland's or Northern Ireland or Wales. Terrible manager who can't get a result when it matters most because he chooses and will continue to choose the wrong team are what matters. Strachan may well not be the answer but I would like to know who is. Scotland's issues are far deeper than the Manager. The current side is an ageing team and there isn't exactly a crop of younger players all ready and waiting for the call. Quote:
So England, Northern Ireland and Wales all qualify and we can't even take it to the last game. Strachan has to go now. We are a laughing stock.
Dude Scotland and Scottish football have been a laughing stock for close to 20 years. That sure didn't start with Gordon Strachan. |
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but in other happier newz ST MIRREN crushed dunfermline 4 glorious goals to zeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeero in the challenge cup quarter finals
other less important results are peterhead 3-0 stenhousemuir queens park 2-1 elgin city and on tuesday some diddy team play livingston
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but in other happier newz ST MIRREN crushed dunfermline 4 glorious goals to zeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeero in the challenge cup quarter finals
other less important results are peterhead 3-0 stenhousemuir queens park 2-1 elgin city and on tuesday some diddy team play livingston ![]() One day in the distant future when you have enough international calibre players you'll understand.
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Point being Hutton, Adam and Wilson are not very good. If that's the benchmark one has to look forward to or aspire to then might as well give up.
Strachan may well not be the answer but I would like to know who is. Scotland's issues are far deeper than the Manager. The current side is an ageing team and there isn't exactly a crop of younger players all ready and waiting for the call. Dude Scotland and Scottish football have been a laughing stock for close to 20 years. That sure didn't start with Gordon Strachan. |
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We are crap but I thought we would be closer to Ireland and Poland than we are to Georgia. Guys like McArthur playing well for Palace who are 4th in the Premier League can't get a game ahead of Brown and Fletcher. Shinnie can't get a game ahead of a poor right back who is in left back. Griffiths and Rhodes can't get a game ahead of Fletcher up front. Time for the manager to go and get some younger players in there.
Some of this squad have six failed campaigns behind them now |
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We are crap but I thought we would be closer to Ireland and Poland than we are to Georgia. Guys like McArthur playing well for Palace who are 4th in the Premier League can't get a game ahead of Brown and Fletcher. Shinnie can't get a game ahead of a poor right back who is in left back. Griffiths and Rhodes can't get a game ahead of Fletcher up front. Time for the manager to go and get some younger players in there.
Scott brown is so limited and way out of his depth at any level above the spl. Rhodes I'm really not convinced. He lacks pace for the top level. |
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Brown should retire anyway from international football as injuries have taken a toll on him.
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To be fair to Scott Brown I think he's probably been one of our best players in campaigns gone by. He can't do it all himself though and Strachan seems unwilling to give others a chance.
I prefer McGregor or Gordon to Marshall. Bardsley for Hutton and Shinnie or Robertson for Whittaker. The centre backs you'd have to go Hanley and Martin until we find someone English whose granny has eaten a piece of shortbread so we can call them Scottish. Scotland have some decent midfielders who can create like Snodgrass, Allan, Armstrong, Adam, Macleod, Mackay-Steven. Yet we go with Darren Fletcher or James Morrison or always rely on Shaun Maloney whose legs have gone. Then up front we have a prolific Rhodes playing at a higher standard than the Scottish Premier League and McCormack who is an £11 million pound player that scores goals at a decent standard who can't get a look in. Even Griffiths can conjure something from nothing and Strachan is rabbiting on about a big man holding it up. When the ball drops in the box like it did for Fletcher when we were 2-1 up with that powder puff header I want a guy that can finish it like Rhodes, not some big man holding it up. I watched the U21s on Alba and unfortunately we look as bad there as we do in the first team. Ryan Gauld managed to get sent off. All a bit depressing. |
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This I agreed with. A centre midfield of brown and fletcher is pointless. No creativity in there at all and it's now time to call time on both of them.
Scott brown is so limited and way out of his depth at any level above the spl. Rhodes I'm really not convinced. He lacks pace for the top level. Could not understand why we brought someone back way past their best. It's this he on the books of an epl side so he must be dead brilliant theory that always troubles me. I also don't think Strachan watches many games |
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Folk in the media and beyond are going on about the 'progress we have made under Strachan', we finished 3rd in our Euro qualifying group last time and now 4th. We've been on the gradual decline for a long time now.
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Folk in the media and beyond are going on about the 'progress we have made under Strachan', we finished 3rd in our Euro qualifying group last time and now 4th. We've been on the gradual decline for a long time now.
![]() He really has the media on side , now if we had just had that same campaign under Johnny Foreigner as manager I am sure he would be given the same progress talk |
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I'd be asking Lars Lagerback what his plans are after the Euros next year. When he took over as Iceland coach in October 2010 they were ranked lower than Liechtenstein and he almost had them at the World Cup where they went out to Croatia in the play off. Now they top a group containing Holland, Czechs and Turkey. Think we need to go outside Scotland and the old boys network.
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Yes the one that makes me laugh is we are a good footballing side under strachan
![]() He really has the media on side , now if we had just had that same campaign under Johnny Foreigner as manager I am sure he would be given the same progress talk This sums it up: http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb...4hpro1_500.gif |
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Until the attitude towards international football changes - Scotland will continue to flounder.
Scotland haven't qualified not because they didn't beat Georgia away, but because Poland and Ireland took points off of Germany - who beat Scotland twice. |
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We played pretty well against Germany in both games. Were we a bit unlucky and ROI a bit lucky? I'm not sure. But we want to get better anyway. However, there are no great players we are leaving out and I doubt if a top manager would take our job. I'd give Strachan a bit more time, see how things are going after a few more games.
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Strachan like his dumbo mate, McGhee, treats the Scotland job like a jollie. He's way too laid back and just sheer lazy.
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We played pretty well against Germany in both games. Were we a bit unlucky and ROI a bit lucky? I'm not sure. But we want to get better anyway. However, there are no great players we are leaving out and I doubt if a top manager would take our job. I'd give Strachan a bit more time, see how things are going after a few more games.
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Scotland team v Gibraltar:
McGregor, Hutton, Greer, Berra, Robertson, Brown, Dorrans, Ritchie, Maloney, S.Fletcher, C.Martin. |
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Scotland team v Gibraltar:
McGregor, Hutton, Greer, Berra, Robertson, Brown, Dorrans, Ritchie, Maloney, S.Fletcher, C.Martin. One for the future no doubt.
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