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We played pretty well against Germany in both games. Were we a bit unlucky and ROI a bit lucky? I'm not sure. But we want to get better anyway. However, there are no great players we are leaving out and I doubt if a top manager would take our job. I'd give Strachan a bit more time, see how things are going after a few more games.
I know NI had an easier group than Scotland but their manager had absolutely no problems choosing Aberdeen, Killie, Hamilton Accies or Dundee United players in his squads and often starting 11. That's an alien concept to Scotland's management team. |
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#5727 |
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I don't think we need to have great players. Decent players can be moulded into a good team.
I know NI had an easier group than Scotland but their manager had absolutely no problems choosing Aberdeen, Killie, Hamilton Accies or Dundee United players in his squads and often starting 11. That's an alien concept to Scotland's management team. |
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Wasn't that the case under Walter smith and MacLeish. A side mounded into a team which was hard to beat and guess what still failed to qualify.
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Were we ever a distant 4th under those managers?
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Yet still failed though. Surely it's about being more than hard to beat and trying to sneak 1-0 wins.
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Wasn't that the case under Walter smith and MacLeish. A side mounded into a team which was hard to beat and guess what still failed to qualify.
Btw Germany still aren't in 1st place with 15 minutes left of qualification. |
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So in the end, Thursday's equaliser was academic.
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Losing to Georgia is what cost us and we knew that.
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Losing to Georgia is what cost us and we knew that.
In fact, if we had held on twice against Poland (and still lost to Georgia) we'd be through automatically in second place (both us and Poland would have 19 points, with us on top on head-to-head). |
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all have either been proven failures or aren't good enough. .
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Poland were giving us a good going over in Poland. We were probably lucky to get a 2-2 there and they were lucky to get a 2-2 here. If we beat Georgia away like everyone else managed, bar Gibraltar, then we'd be on 18 points and a better head to head than Ireland. This is what the manager was saying at the time: Quote:
Scotland manager Gordon Strachan says he cannot understand why some feel Friday's Euro 2016 qualifier in Georgia is a "must win".
If he can't spot that is a must win then why are we persisting with him? Get rid of this clown.
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Waldo, & Sally, Captain Blood, Big Alec, ..... the mind starts too boggle ?
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Poland were giving us a good going over in Poland. We were probably lucky to get a 2-2 there and they were lucky to get a 2-2 here. If we beat Georgia away like everyone else managed, bar Gibraltar, then we'd be on 18 points and a better head to head than Ireland.
The way to qualify is to pick up points when you least expect them, hence Wales and Northern Ireland making it. |
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Scotland didn't make it because unlike Ireland and Poland, Scotland failed to pick up unexpected points from Germany.
The way to qualify is to pick up points when you least expect them, hence Wales and Northern Ireland making it. |
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What are you on about? .
Iggy for you fella |
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Scotland failing to qualify for a 24 team tournament is a colossal, monumental failure. Add disgraceful to that as well.
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All your EX heroes, aswell you know .....
Iggy for you fella |
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Your rancid duds and ex-dud manager helped put us out.
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It's your lot wishing Ireland luck who were our direct rivals.
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Scotland failing to qualify for a 24 team tournament is a colossal, monumental failure. Add disgraceful to that as well.
Nothing monumental, colossal or disgraceful, just one bad game. |
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It would also be a "colossal monumental failure" for Germany, Ireland or Poland so someone was always bound to fail. We blew it in Georgia. That is it. One bad game.
Nothing monumental, colossal or disgraceful, just one bad game. |
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It would also be a "colossal monumental failure" for Germany, Ireland or Poland so someone was always bound to fail. We blew it in Georgia. That is it. One bad game.
Nothing monumental, colossal or disgraceful, just one bad game. Time should be up for Strachan. It won't be though. This is Scotland where the bigger the glorious failure or the closer you got with your hard luck story the more you are revered like a god when the fact is you failed like all the rest. |
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Scotland failing to qualify for a 24 team tournament is a colossal, monumental failure. Add disgraceful to that as well.
simply put, being BETTER than republic ireland should have been enough, but one loss by georgia killed it DEAD! |
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you & that other trumpet , Crofter, ................ will have your 50/50 scarves on next summer, ( Engerland/ Northern Ireland so dont try & kid a kidder fella!
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So another summit to find out what went wrong with the previous summit as summit went wrong,
Yet no talk of summits from Northern Ireland who imo aren't a better side than Scotland. |
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