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Scottish Fitba Thread (Part 22)
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TrebleKing
23-10-2015
Mid priced or even bargain basement foreigners always look good in other foreign teams I've noticed. Maybe those teams have good scouts or something. It always seems Scottish clubs get f#cked over when buying foreign journeymen. We always end up with the most useless, brainless shower of pish. We've just ended up as a dumping ground for duds.
FrankieFixer
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by bhoy07:
“Not a fan on the loans system either in Scotland - clubs should be limited to SPFL based players, probably with one external player allowed.

Short term loans should also be allowed in between windows.”

Oduwa and Zelalem are the two best young prospects playing in Scotland for many a year and we are lucky to get to look at them for a bit before they move on. These skillful players don't exist in Scotland with that amount of talent at that age. They aren't there because some 6ft 2" wrecking ball probably crippled them at 15 with their manager congratulating them on getting stuck in or they aren't picked because Mr Hammer Thrower got the starting place.
bhoy07
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by FrankieFixer:
“Oduwa and Zelalem are the two best young prospects playing in Scotland for many a year and we are lucky to get to look at them for a bit before they move on. These skillful players don't exist in Scotland with that amount of talent at that age. They aren't there because some 6ft 2" wrecking ball probably crippled them at 15 with their manager congratulating them on getting stuck in or they aren't picked because Mr Hammer Thrower got the starting place.”

Can't have it both ways - although I've not seen either play, is it more important to develop your own players in lets face it a league worse than the Scottish Premiership or develop players from Arsenal, Spurs, Newcastle etc... none of whom will make the grade at those clubs.

Celtic are guilty of it as well.
FrankieFixer
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by bhoy07:
“Can't have it both ways - although I've not seen either play, is it more important to develop your own players in lets face it a league worse than the Scottish Premiership or develop players from Arsenal, Spurs, Newcastle etc... none of whom will make the grade at those clubs.

Celtic are guilty of it as well.”

Warburton is bringing in young on loan guys and saying you have to be at this level to get a game for Rangers and if you are below it you won't be playing for us. He's looked at the Rangers youths and said you aren't good enough to make the grade. Barry McKay looks good enough and Walsh and Hardie may be good enough and Jason Holt is 22 and looks like a good little player. Rangers need to bring through more young players from Murray Park.

Celtic have some exciting young Scottish players, in midfield especially. But if they are playing out of position or not playing at all at the expense of manager favourites then they'll never develop. Celtic are selling good players and replacing them with poorer players in key positions and they can't expect to challenge in Europe doing that. It's constant erosion that just grinds you down and lets Europe slip away.
crofter
23-10-2015
Still scratching my head at Dial-a-bus and his claim of how he was bringing balance to the team by replacing Kris Commons with Nadir Ciftci.

If any of the attacking players deserved to be hooked it was Leigh Griffiths - he was absolutely dire from start to finish.

Incidentally there is a cracking screengrab doing the rounds of Griffiths holding a "RESPECT - show racism the red card" poster during the build-up. Is it genuine or a photoshop jobbie?? Hard to tell due to the shape of his coupon.
bhoy07
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by crofter:
“Still scratching my head at Dial-a-bus and his claim of how he was bringing balance to the team by replacing Kris Commons with Nadir Ciftci.

If any of the attacking players deserved to be hooked it was Leigh Griffiths - he was absolutely dire from start to finish.”

When you have one striker in a 4-2-3-1 formation and you want to go 4-4-2, to keep the team balanced you would probably hook the central man in the 3 - hence why Commons was taken off.

It's not that difficult to understand when he explained it, whether it was correct or not is debatable but it didn't lose us the game.

Thanks for your concern though.
big bro geek
23-10-2015
At least our ladies know what they're doing!!!
crofter
24-10-2015
Originally Posted by bhoy07:
“When you have one striker in a 4-2-3-1 formation and you want to go 4-4-2, to keep the team balanced you would probably hook the central man in the 3 - hence why Commons was taken off.

It's not that difficult to understand when he explained it, whether it was correct or not is debatable but it didn't lose us the game.

Thanks for your concern though.”

Well obviously it worked as Celtic stopped leaking goals... glad you are happy with the shite explanation though ... so to recap, replace your most effective attacking player with one of your biggest duds of the season who can't even cut it in domestic football but he might theoretically offer a better balance to the team.

I could see the logic in that ...
timboy
24-10-2015
Just watched the game from Thursday.

Absolutely shocking defending and Johansen needs to be rested to clear up his back injury as playing him injured isn't helping anyone.

Will be interesting to see if Commons gets a game tomorrow
The_Sleeper
24-10-2015
Just hope the farmer hasn't had tae cross the foreskin bridge to night, after that result ..
timboy
25-10-2015
So according to a red top Celtic are looking to start a franchise in America.

That is classic moonbeams right there.
bhoy07
25-10-2015
Celtic 5-0 Dundee United - Commons scored twice but Tierney got MOTM.
DUNDEEBOY
25-10-2015
This is turning into absolutely disasterous season for United I really fear the worst now, can't believe how far they have fallen in just about a year.

McNamara was allowed to bring in some absolute dross which didn't help, not convinced pataleinen is the answer though
The_Sleeper
25-10-2015
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“This is turning into absolutely disasterous season for United I really fear the worst now, can't believe how far they have fallen in just about a year.
McNamara was allowed to bring in some absolute dross which didn't help, not convinced pataleinen is the answer though”

Just like motherwell. the cheap option
jenzie
25-10-2015
must have been a close game at st mirren park, only lost one nil to the care bears
TrebleKing
25-10-2015
Originally Posted by jenzie:
“must have been a close game at st mirren park, only lost one nil to the care bears ”

St Mirren played well and they probably weren't far away from deserving a point. A class finish won it for The People.
FrankieFixer
25-10-2015
Originally Posted by jenzie:
“must have been a close game at st mirren park, only lost one nil to the care bears ”

You should have at least a draw. No idea why you are where you are if you play like that, even Jim Goodwin was good.
big bro geek
25-10-2015
Rangers have looked really poor ever since the St Johnstone game. Shame as the football before that match was sensational. Seem to have lost all confidence.

Dundee Utd are in a dire situation at the moment and I see no sign of it changing
Callum Collum
26-10-2015
11 league games played, 11 won. We're doing not bad for a team that has supposedly "lost all confidence".
timboy
26-10-2015
The Zombie Nation have fairly shut up since Thursday night.

No comments to make about the Celtic performance yesterday afternoon? You were very vocal on Thursday night.
TrebleKing
26-10-2015
Were you playing?
big bro geek
26-10-2015
Originally Posted by timboy:
“The Zombie Nation have fairly shut up since Thursday night.

No comments to make about the Celtic performance yesterday afternoon? You were very vocal on Thursday night.”

Because the Celtic fans on this are always first to congratulate Rangers.....
TrebleKing
26-10-2015
I've just checked the BBC Football site to see the score. A thumping win for the Dhims for sure, but what a poor United side. Judging by the stadium, it looks like the majority of the Sellik support didn't know they were playing either.....
timboy
26-10-2015
Originally Posted by TrebleKing:
“I've just checked the BBC Football site to see the score. A thumping win for the Dhims for sure, but what a poor United side. Judging by the stadium, it looks like the majority of the Sellik support didn't know they were playing either.....”

Back to the attendance cup is it?
TrebleKing
26-10-2015
Well, if you add that in maybe you could win a Treble........
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