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Old 23-10-2015, 16:29
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Mid priced or even bargain basement foreigners always look good in other foreign teams I've noticed. Maybe those teams have good scouts or something. It always seems Scottish clubs get f#cked over when buying foreign journeymen. We always end up with the most useless, brainless shower of pish. We've just ended up as a dumping ground for duds.
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Old 23-10-2015, 16:30
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Not a fan on the loans system either in Scotland - clubs should be limited to SPFL based players, probably with one external player allowed.

Short term loans should also be allowed in between windows.
Oduwa and Zelalem are the two best young prospects playing in Scotland for many a year and we are lucky to get to look at them for a bit before they move on. These skillful players don't exist in Scotland with that amount of talent at that age. They aren't there because some 6ft 2" wrecking ball probably crippled them at 15 with their manager congratulating them on getting stuck in or they aren't picked because Mr Hammer Thrower got the starting place.
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Old 23-10-2015, 17:59
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Oduwa and Zelalem are the two best young prospects playing in Scotland for many a year and we are lucky to get to look at them for a bit before they move on. These skillful players don't exist in Scotland with that amount of talent at that age. They aren't there because some 6ft 2" wrecking ball probably crippled them at 15 with their manager congratulating them on getting stuck in or they aren't picked because Mr Hammer Thrower got the starting place.
Can't have it both ways - although I've not seen either play, is it more important to develop your own players in lets face it a league worse than the Scottish Premiership or develop players from Arsenal, Spurs, Newcastle etc... none of whom will make the grade at those clubs.

Celtic are guilty of it as well.
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Old 23-10-2015, 18:41
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Can't have it both ways - although I've not seen either play, is it more important to develop your own players in lets face it a league worse than the Scottish Premiership or develop players from Arsenal, Spurs, Newcastle etc... none of whom will make the grade at those clubs.

Celtic are guilty of it as well.
Warburton is bringing in young on loan guys and saying you have to be at this level to get a game for Rangers and if you are below it you won't be playing for us. He's looked at the Rangers youths and said you aren't good enough to make the grade. Barry McKay looks good enough and Walsh and Hardie may be good enough and Jason Holt is 22 and looks like a good little player. Rangers need to bring through more young players from Murray Park.

Celtic have some exciting young Scottish players, in midfield especially. But if they are playing out of position or not playing at all at the expense of manager favourites then they'll never develop. Celtic are selling good players and replacing them with poorer players in key positions and they can't expect to challenge in Europe doing that. It's constant erosion that just grinds you down and lets Europe slip away.
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Old 23-10-2015, 19:53
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Still scratching my head at Dial-a-bus and his claim of how he was bringing balance to the team by replacing Kris Commons with Nadir Ciftci.

If any of the attacking players deserved to be hooked it was Leigh Griffiths - he was absolutely dire from start to finish.

Incidentally there is a cracking screengrab doing the rounds of Griffiths holding a "RESPECT - show racism the red card" poster during the build-up. Is it genuine or a photoshop jobbie?? Hard to tell due to the shape of his coupon.
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Old 23-10-2015, 19:56
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Still scratching my head at Dial-a-bus and his claim of how he was bringing balance to the team by replacing Kris Commons with Nadir Ciftci.

If any of the attacking players deserved to be hooked it was Leigh Griffiths - he was absolutely dire from start to finish.
When you have one striker in a 4-2-3-1 formation and you want to go 4-4-2, to keep the team balanced you would probably hook the central man in the 3 - hence why Commons was taken off.

It's not that difficult to understand when he explained it, whether it was correct or not is debatable but it didn't lose us the game.

Thanks for your concern though.
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Old 23-10-2015, 22:06
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At least our ladies know what they're doing!!!
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Old 24-10-2015, 01:09
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When you have one striker in a 4-2-3-1 formation and you want to go 4-4-2, to keep the team balanced you would probably hook the central man in the 3 - hence why Commons was taken off.

It's not that difficult to understand when he explained it, whether it was correct or not is debatable but it didn't lose us the game.

Thanks for your concern though.
Well obviously it worked as Celtic stopped leaking goals... glad you are happy with the shite explanation though ... so to recap, replace your most effective attacking player with one of your biggest duds of the season who can't even cut it in domestic football but he might theoretically offer a better balance to the team.

I could see the logic in that ...
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Old 24-10-2015, 14:05
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Just watched the game from Thursday.

Absolutely shocking defending and Johansen needs to be rested to clear up his back injury as playing him injured isn't helping anyone.

Will be interesting to see if Commons gets a game tomorrow
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Old 24-10-2015, 23:59
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Just hope the farmer hasn't had tae cross the foreskin bridge to night, after that result ..
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Old 25-10-2015, 07:06
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So according to a red top Celtic are looking to start a franchise in America.

That is classic moonbeams right there.
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Old 25-10-2015, 16:53
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Celtic 5-0 Dundee United - Commons scored twice but Tierney got MOTM.
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Old 25-10-2015, 17:06
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This is turning into absolutely disasterous season for United I really fear the worst now, can't believe how far they have fallen in just about a year.

McNamara was allowed to bring in some absolute dross which didn't help, not convinced pataleinen is the answer though
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Old 25-10-2015, 17:14
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This is turning into absolutely disasterous season for United I really fear the worst now, can't believe how far they have fallen in just about a year.
McNamara was allowed to bring in some absolute dross which didn't help, not convinced pataleinen is the answer though
Just like motherwell. the cheap option
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Old 25-10-2015, 17:30
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must have been a close game at st mirren park, only lost one nil to the care bears
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Old 25-10-2015, 17:46
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must have been a close game at st mirren park, only lost one nil to the care bears
St Mirren played well and they probably weren't far away from deserving a point. A class finish won it for The People.
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Old 25-10-2015, 19:05
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must have been a close game at st mirren park, only lost one nil to the care bears
You should have at least a draw. No idea why you are where you are if you play like that, even Jim Goodwin was good.
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Old 25-10-2015, 21:58
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Rangers have looked really poor ever since the St Johnstone game. Shame as the football before that match was sensational. Seem to have lost all confidence.

Dundee Utd are in a dire situation at the moment and I see no sign of it changing
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Old 26-10-2015, 00:29
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11 league games played, 11 won. We're doing not bad for a team that has supposedly "lost all confidence".
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Old 26-10-2015, 03:40
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The Zombie Nation have fairly shut up since Thursday night.

No comments to make about the Celtic performance yesterday afternoon? You were very vocal on Thursday night.
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Old 26-10-2015, 06:50
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Were you playing?
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Old 26-10-2015, 07:35
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The Zombie Nation have fairly shut up since Thursday night.

No comments to make about the Celtic performance yesterday afternoon? You were very vocal on Thursday night.
Because the Celtic fans on this are always first to congratulate Rangers.....
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Old 26-10-2015, 08:37
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I've just checked the BBC Football site to see the score. A thumping win for the Dhims for sure, but what a poor United side. Judging by the stadium, it looks like the majority of the Sellik support didn't know they were playing either.....
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Old 26-10-2015, 10:51
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I've just checked the BBC Football site to see the score. A thumping win for the Dhims for sure, but what a poor United side. Judging by the stadium, it looks like the majority of the Sellik support didn't know they were playing either.....
Back to the attendance cup is it?
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Old 26-10-2015, 11:44
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Well, if you add that in maybe you could win a Treble........
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