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Old 10-11-2015, 14:10
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Poppies shouldn’t even be worn by football clubs. Tradition? Since when did clubs start taking part in the practice? I don’t remember it being such a major deal on football shirts but since the stop the war protests lo and behold the most viewed sport in the country has teams up and down the country with special kits for 'remembrance weekend'.

A player is not allowed to show a t-shirt with a political opinion yet teams wear poppies which are a political symbol.
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Old 10-11-2015, 14:18
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Poppies shouldn’t even be worn by football clubs. Tradition? Since when did clubs start taking part in the practice? I don’t remember it being such a major deal on football shirts but since the stop the war protests lo and behold the most viewed sport in the country has teams up and down the country with special kits for 'remembrance weekend'.

A player is not allowed to show a t-shirt with a political opinion yet teams wear poppies which are a political symbol.
Everything was ramped up around that time.

Now people are getting death threats for not wearing a poppy! It's obscene the rise in poppy fascism.

I see a former member of the Parachute Regiment has been arrested in Antrim today over the Bloody Sunday massacre.
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Old 10-11-2015, 15:50
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That there was the first Dead club top to have a poppy on it, from November 2008. Total lack of class and dignity that they never wore one before then.

Their first ever poppy display and soldier display in the stadium was in 2010.

The reason their first ever big display was 2010 is because it was 2009 where Celtic fans had the banner protesting the poppy, so of course the forces of dignity had to then go all out the following year to show all on lookers who were the people.
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Old 10-11-2015, 15:58
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That there was the first Dead club top to have a poppy on it, from November 2008. Total lack of class and dignity that they never wore one before then.

Their first ever poppy display and soldier display in the stadium was in 2010.

The reason their first ever big display was 2010 is because it was 2009 where Celtic fans had the banner protesting the poppy, so of course the forces of dignity had to then go all out the following year to show all on lookers who were the people.
Just as I thought. It really is quite disgusting how this has crept into football and as I said it shouldn’t even be allowed. The Army must love all the free advertising it gets.
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Old 10-11-2015, 18:43
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Poppies shouldn’t even be worn by football clubs. Tradition? Since when did clubs start taking part in the practice? I don’t remember it being such a major deal on football shirts but since the stop the war protests lo and behold the most viewed sport in the country has teams up and down the country with special kits for 'remembrance weekend'.

A player is not allowed to show a t-shirt with a political opinion yet teams wear poppies which are a political symbol.
It isn't political. What do you think of your money bombing the caliphate?
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Old 10-11-2015, 18:47
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In what year what the British Army made up of 42% Irishmen? 1914, 1939 or 1830?

The British forces carried out massacres in Ireland and colluded with Loyalist paramilitaries to kill Catholics, nationalists and republicans.

If you don't understand why some don't want to 'honour' these people then you can't be very intelligent.
I don't think they can be very intelligent when they honour and praise the IRA who blow up pregnant women and children.
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Old 10-11-2015, 19:06
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I don't think they can be very intelligent when they honour and praise the IRA who blow up pregnant women and children.
But for every pregnant woman or child killed by the IRA how many have the british army killed? like 50 to 1 or more.

Infact probably way more, British must have killed 50,000+ innocent civilian Germans alone during WWII so the ratio is probably more like 1,000 to 1. I could have well underestimated there too, maybe it's even as high as 10,000 to 1, so for every 5 kids killed by the IRA the British have wiped out about a Hampden Park fulls worth.

Next time you are sitting in Ibrox with the soldiers being paraded about just think that their organisation have killed probably 25+ times Ibrox Stadium's full of kids... then look at the away support and that number will be about as much civilians in total not just kids killed by the IRA. Then think who really are the terrorists.
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Old 10-11-2015, 19:25
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Aye they seen you coming with that car mate £320 ........ A fool & there money. you could have got a season ticket for the price of that seat belt ???
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Old 10-11-2015, 20:14
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Poppies shouldn’t even be worn by football clubs. Tradition? Since when did clubs start taking part in the practice? I don’t remember it being such a major deal on football shirts but since the stop the war protests lo and behold the most viewed sport in the country has teams up and down the country with special kits for 'remembrance weekend'.

A player is not allowed to show a t-shirt with a political opinion yet teams wear poppies which are a political symbol.
I don't see any problems with it down south - why is it only one IRA loving Scottish club that seems to have a problem with it??

Time the book was thrown at Celtic and end this Juan Guy, sweep sweep mentality that is trotted out every few weeks ...
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Old 10-11-2015, 20:16
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But for every pregnant woman or child killed by the IRA how many have the british army killed? like 50 to 1 or more.

Infact probably way more, British must have killed 50,000+ innocent civilian Germans alone during WWII so the ratio is probably more like 1,000 to 1. I could have well underestimated there too, maybe it's even as high as 10,000 to 1, so for every 5 kids killed by the IRA the British have wiped out about a Hampden Park fulls worth.

Next time you are sitting in Ibrox with the soldiers being paraded about just think that their organisation have killed probably 25+ times Ibrox Stadium's full of kids... then look at the away support and that number will be about as much civilians in total not just kids killed by the IRA. Then think who really are the terrorists.
So why do you stay here if you hate the place and all it stands for so much??
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Old 10-11-2015, 20:33
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I don't see any problems with it down south - why is it only one IRA loving Scottish club that seems to have a problem with it??

Time the book was thrown at Celtic and end this Juan Guy, sweep sweep mentality that is trotted out every few weeks ...
Least we aren't a EBT loving club.
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Old 10-11-2015, 20:54
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It isn't political. What do you think of your money bombing the caliphate?
It's original message might not have been but now its used to represent support for the British armed forces current and past regardless of the horrific crimes that army has committed. Same with that help for heroes.

A money maker for the British legion: "We help members of the Royal Navy, British Army, Royal Air Force, Reservists, veterans and their families all year round. We also campaign to improve their lives, organise the Poppy Appeal and remember the fallen"
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Old 10-11-2015, 22:09
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But for every pregnant woman or child killed by the IRA how many have the british army killed? like 50 to 1 or more.

Infact probably way more, British must have killed 50,000+ innocent civilian Germans alone during WWII so the ratio is probably more like 1,000 to 1. I could have well underestimated there too, maybe it's even as high as 10,000 to 1, so for every 5 kids killed by the IRA the British have wiped out about a Hampden Park fulls worth.

Next time you are sitting in Ibrox with the soldiers being paraded about just think that their organisation have killed probably 25+ times Ibrox Stadium's full of kids... then look at the away support and that number will be about as much civilians in total not just kids killed by the IRA. Then think who really are the terrorists.
The IRA factions your support glorify are the terrorists. On the British Army just remember, you're paying for everything they do.
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Old 11-11-2015, 11:33
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Least we aren't a EBT loving club.
They love the Queen and the troops, paying for their them not quite so much. The quintessential British club indeed. It is a complete red neck that they paraded the troops all the while denying them millions through their tax evasion scheme.

They were an occasional embarrassment and a permanent disgrace.
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Old 11-11-2015, 15:12
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It's original message might not have been but now its used to represent support for the British armed forces current and past regardless of the horrific crimes that army has committed. Same with that help for heroes.

A money maker for the British legion: "We help members of the Royal Navy, British Army, Royal Air Force, Reservists, veterans and their families all year round. We also campaign to improve their lives, organise the Poppy Appeal and remember the fallen"
It isn't political no matter what you think. Your money is paying for bombs and bullets to kill IS in Iraq and Syria, give yourself a pat on the back for helping out.
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Old 11-11-2015, 15:16
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They love the Queen and the troops, paying for their them not quite so much. The quintessential British club indeed. It is a complete red neck that they paraded the troops all the while denying them millions through their tax evasion scheme.

They were an occasional embarrassment and a permanent disgrace.
You disrupt silences, glorify terrorists that you pay for to be shot and killed (in the past) by an army you hate in a country you don't even come from that you pieced together the history about by bitter old alkies in pubs singing rebel tunes.

This is a great question that is never answered:

So why do you stay here if you hate the place and all it stands for so much??
Answers on a postcard.
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Old 11-11-2015, 16:11
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This is a great question that is never answered:

Answers on a postcard.
It isn't a great question at all, it is a stupid question normally raised by those on the right of the political spectrum.

It is like saying that black Americans and South Africans who were the victims of apartheid should have moved to another country instead of fighting for their country to change.

It is like saying that gay men should have moved to another country instead of fighting for homosexuality to be decriminalised.
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Old 11-11-2015, 16:35
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What a penalty!
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Old 11-11-2015, 18:00
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Least we aren't a EBT loving club.
No but bogus film companies were certainly loved by many of your players. You know, the ones HMRC are after big time. You wonder why said players and managers have all said Rangers should not be stripped of anything.
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Old 11-11-2015, 18:05
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I see Darren O'Dea, who currently plays in the Indian Super League for Mumbai City, has been banging his gums about The Gers being stripped of titles or something. He better watch it or The Apprentice Boys of Delhi are going to kick the shit out of him....
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Old 11-11-2015, 18:11
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No but bogus film companies were certainly loved by many of your players. You know, the ones HMRC are after big time. You wonder why said players and managers have all said Rangers should not be stripped of anything.
And hopefully HMRC will go after the people who took part in those schemes.

It is a vastly different situation, however, from what Rangers did as a club, or should that be company?
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Old 11-11-2015, 20:20
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They love the Queen and the troops, paying for their them not quite so much. The quintessential British club indeed. It is a complete red neck that they paraded the troops all the while denying them millions through their tax evasion scheme.

They were an occasional embarrassment and a permanent disgrace.
To put things in perspective, countless organisations and individuals look to reduce their tax liability. Are they all to be disbarred from respecting our troops?

Moreover, as tax expert Jolyon Maugham QC has pointed out, there is no question of "evasion" (or indeed illegality). The hearings have simply been to decide whether certain sums are taxable - and there could be yet another appeal (and HMRC have already lost in connection with two appeals).
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Old 11-11-2015, 20:37
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It isn't a great question at all, it is a stupid question normally raised by those on the right of the political spectrum.

It is like saying that black Americans and South Africans who were the victims of apartheid should have moved to another country instead of fighting for their country to change.

It is like saying that gay men should have moved to another country instead of fighting for homosexuality to be decriminalised.
Your examples are ridiculous. Cheering on a bunch of terrorists and shouting through silences won't get you anything but ridicule and condemnation. How you think it will 'change' anything I don't know.

The question is the same question asked to that thick as mince crap footballer James McClean, if you are so against the British then why live here?
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Old 11-11-2015, 21:01
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To put things in perspective, countless organisations and individuals look to reduce their tax liability. Are they all to be disbarred from respecting our troops?
If they cared that much about the troops would they not want to be financially supporting them?

It is all to do with being seen to support something, not that you really support it.

What would do think the Forces would rather have, a company sticking a poppy on their website for a couple weeks and telling their staff to observe a silence or the extra millions of pounds that could have been raised if they'd paid tax?

Your examples are ridiculous.
No, my examples are perfectly good, you just don't have an adequate response to try and rebuff them.

The question is the same question asked to that thick as mince crap footballer James McClean, if you are so against the British then why live here?
Where have I said that I am "against the British"? In what way is James McClean "against the British"?
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Old 11-11-2015, 23:59
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Timbo - haven't you claimed for yonks that we don't exist and are a different club?? Now it looks like you are changing that stance to suit your agenda.

Only you could try and liken Celtic fans disrupting a minutes silence to South African apartheid and black Americans struggle for some sort of equality - you are a fecking mentalist and I always knew you would trot out the vicTim card and claim that it is all big bad rangers fault all along ... even though you claim we died.

Confused.com doesn't even begin to cover it.
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