Can't be Celtic Park Mark, rules don't allow it.
Meant to be nearest suitable ground.
I know E.K. weren't happy with not being consulted.
Meant to be nearest suitable ground.
I know E.K. weren't happy with not being consulted.
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Originally Posted by getzls:
“Can't be Celtic Park Mark, rules don't allow it.
Meant to be nearest suitable ground.
I know E.K. weren't happy with not being consulted.”
“Can't be Celtic Park Mark, rules don't allow it.
Meant to be nearest suitable ground.
I know E.K. weren't happy with not being consulted.”
If Celtic Park is the nearest suitable ground there's nothing stopping it being there.
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“If Celtic Park is the nearest suitable ground there's nothing stopping it being there.”
“If Celtic Park is the nearest suitable ground there's nothing stopping it being there.”
I think the rules say you can't reverse the Cup fixure.
Yes you can in England.
Be good financially for E.K. if it was playing at Hampden ££££££££££
Originally Posted by getzls:
“I think the rules say you can't reverse the Cup fixure.
Yes you can in England.”
“I think the rules say you can't reverse the Cup fixure.
Yes you can in England.”
It's not reversing the fixture, though. It would still be East Kilbride v Celtic, but played at Celtic Park.
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“It's not reversing the fixture, though. It would still be East Kilbride v Celtic, but played at Celtic Park.”
“It's not reversing the fixture, though. It would still be East Kilbride v Celtic, but played at Celtic Park.”
That would be reversing it!
Originally Posted by getzls:
“That would be reversing it!”
“That would be reversing it!”
No it wouldn't. Reversing it would be Celtic v East Kilbride.
This really isn't difficult to understand.
Come on Mark.
If the tie is played at Celtic Park then that is reversing it.
Anyway, the rules don't allow it.
Rules state as follows.
When a tie cannot go ahead at the drawn ground ( K Park)
It goes to the nearest registered ground of at least equivalent capacity which is most suitable.
Which was Hamilton's.
But not now.
If the tie is played at Celtic Park then that is reversing it.
Anyway, the rules don't allow it.
Rules state as follows.
When a tie cannot go ahead at the drawn ground ( K Park)
It goes to the nearest registered ground of at least equivalent capacity which is most suitable.
Which was Hamilton's.
But not now.
Originally Posted by getzls:
“Come on Mark.
If the tie is played at Celtic Park then that is reversing it.”
“Come on Mark.
If the tie is played at Celtic Park then that is reversing it.”
No it's not.
East Kilbride v Celtic at Celtic Park would be an East Kilbride home game - they would dictate the capacity, the allocations and take the financial advantage of being the home team.
Quote:
“Anyway, the rules don't allow it. ”
“Anyway, the rules don't allow it. ”
Incorrect.
Quote:
“Rules state as follows.
When a tie cannot go ahead at the drawn ground ( K Park)
It goes to the nearest registered ground of at least equivalent capacity which is most suitable.
Which was Hamilton's.
But not now.”
“Rules state as follows.
When a tie cannot go ahead at the drawn ground ( K Park)
It goes to the nearest registered ground of at least equivalent capacity which is most suitable.
Which was Hamilton's.
But not now.”
Right. So they go to the next nearest suitable ground, which is Fir Park. If that pitch can't host two games in one weekend, they go to the next nearest suitable ground which is Hampden. Again, that has a game the previous day so might be ruled out, so they go to the next nearest suitable ground. Which is Celtic Park.
Your interpretation of the rules is wrong. If it were right, then it would mean a tie like Dundee Utd v Dundee needing to be played at McDiarmid Park if Tannadice were out of action...which is ludicrous.
Hampden can take two games in succession no problem.
It won't be at Celtic Park.
The sfa would have to change the rules to allow that to happen.
It won't be at Celtic Park.
The sfa would have to change the rules to allow that to happen.
Originally Posted by getzls:
“It won't be at Celtic Park.
The sfa would have to change the rules to allow that to happen.”
“It won't be at Celtic Park.
The sfa would have to change the rules to allow that to happen.”
If Celtic Park is the "nearest registered ground...which is most suitable" no they wouldn't.
"Most suitable" is a get-out clause for them to, in theory, choose anywhere. NDP isn't suitable because it's being used; Fir Park may not be suitable because of the pitch; ditto Hampden. That leaves Celtic Park.
Hampden is the nearest, it's closer than Fir Park.
Hampden has had two games played in two days before.
The pitch will be playable.
It will not be at Celtic Park.
More chance of it being played in my back garden than there.
And this is my last word on things, for now to see what develops.
Hampden has had two games played in two days before.
The pitch will be playable.
It will not be at Celtic Park.
More chance of it being played in my back garden than there.
And this is my last word on things, for now to see what develops.
Originally Posted by getzls:
“It will not be at Celtic Park.”
“It will not be at Celtic Park.”
I never said it would be; I said there is nothing in the rules to stop it being there if nearer grounds are deemed unsuitable.
Originally Posted by getzls:
“And now two non league teams in the 5th round as L. Rose beat Forfar in extra time”
“And now two non league teams in the 5th round as L. Rose beat Forfar in extra time”
Stunning result for Linlithgow. Well done to them.
The Sons now take on Dundee, after they beat Falkirk tonight. Nice
Originally Posted by farmer bob:
“Stunning result for Linlithgow. Well done to them.
The Sons now take on Dundee, after they beat Falkirk tonight. Nice”
“Stunning result for Linlithgow. Well done to them.
The Sons now take on Dundee, after they beat Falkirk tonight. Nice”
Was especially good as the Rose had a few off injured.
Now it takes them to take the plunge and join the Lowland League and possibly make a charge up the spfl.
Looks like Patrick Roberts is signing for 18 months on loan, seems like it could be a good signing, a very skillful technical player.
Wow SFA only charging £45-£60 for the England game on 10/6/17. I was sure it was going to be 80-90. Wonder if they're feeling alright? 
Originally Posted by getzls:
“Was especially good as the Rose had a few off injured.
Now it takes them to take the plunge and join the Lowland League and possibly make a charge up the spfl.”
“Was especially good as the Rose had a few off injured.
Now it takes them to take the plunge and join the Lowland League and possibly make a charge up the spfl.”
Hopefully we will see a team who makes the play off final with the team at the bottom of league 2 this time around will really want to play in the SPFL next year. Montrose were lucky that they faced a team who were only happy to play their league football against teams in the northern third of Scotland rather than against teams throughout the whole of Scotland.
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“No it's not.
East Kilbride v Celtic at Celtic Park would be an East Kilbride home game - they would dictate the capacity, the allocations and take the financial advantage of being the home team.
Incorrect.
Right. So they go to the next nearest suitable ground, which is Fir Park. If that pitch can't host two games in one weekend, they go to the next nearest suitable ground which is Hampden. Again, that has a game the previous day so might be ruled out, so they go to the next nearest suitable ground. Which is Celtic Park.
Your interpretation of the rules is wrong. If it were right, then it would mean a tie like Dundee Utd v Dundee needing to be played at McDiarmid Park if Tannadice were out of action...which is ludicrous.”
“No it's not.
East Kilbride v Celtic at Celtic Park would be an East Kilbride home game - they would dictate the capacity, the allocations and take the financial advantage of being the home team.
Incorrect.
Right. So they go to the next nearest suitable ground, which is Fir Park. If that pitch can't host two games in one weekend, they go to the next nearest suitable ground which is Hampden. Again, that has a game the previous day so might be ruled out, so they go to the next nearest suitable ground. Which is Celtic Park.
Your interpretation of the rules is wrong. If it were right, then it would mean a tie like Dundee Utd v Dundee needing to be played at McDiarmid Park if Tannadice were out of action...which is ludicrous.”
But only moved to the nearest suitable ground who are not your opponents
In the English FA Cup the switching of non league clubs there to their top league opponents home ground just because they were a non league team (with the non league chairmen often publicly hoping their home ground was ruled unsuitable (even though their ground was clearly suitable to host the tie)) just so they could savour the atmosphere of playing at a famous big ground and make a few extra buck out of it was totally ridiculous.
One english non league chairman was really very foul mouthed when they were suddenly only allowed to move their English FA Cup tie against Liverpool to the nearest suitable ground instead of being allowed to switch it so they could have their dream visit to Anfield (like a few other English non league did for a time) due to the English FA suddenly stopping the practice.
East Kilbride v Celtic should not be played at Celtic Park.
Originally Posted by JCR:
“Wow SFA only charging £45-£60 for the England game on 10/6/17. I was sure it was going to be 80-90. Wonder if they're feeling alright?”
“Wow SFA only charging £45-£60 for the England game on 10/6/17. I was sure it was going to be 80-90. Wonder if they're feeling alright?
”
I doubt it will mean much from a Scotland point of view by the time it comes round
Originally Posted by david16:
“But only moved to the nearest suitable ground who are not your opponents”
“But only moved to the nearest suitable ground who are not your opponents”
Nope, the rule that allows for the game to be moved suspends the rule that states the tie is to be played at the ground of the team drawn first.
Quote:
“Notwithstanding anything which is contained in Rule 11 if a club notifies the Scottish FA that it is unable to play a Cup match at its registered ground as detailed in the Official Return (Rule 6 and the Articles of Association refer) for whatever reason and the Board is satisfied of the validity of such reason, the match shall be played at the nearest registered ground of at least equivalent capacity which in the opinion of the Board is most suitable for the occasion. If a replay should be necessary, it will take place at the ground of its opponents.”
“Notwithstanding anything which is contained in Rule 11 if a club notifies the Scottish FA that it is unable to play a Cup match at its registered ground as detailed in the Official Return (Rule 6 and the Articles of Association refer) for whatever reason and the Board is satisfied of the validity of such reason, the match shall be played at the nearest registered ground of at least equivalent capacity which in the opinion of the Board is most suitable for the occasion. If a replay should be necessary, it will take place at the ground of its opponents.”
The "notwithstanding" is the key word.
As I said previously, if it ever transpired that Dundee Utd v Dundee couldn't be played at Tannadice, the you're suggesting that it would be played at McDiarmid Park. Which is utterly ludicrous.
Christian Nade signs for Dumbarton from Hamilton Accies, look forward to him getting on the end of some of young Tam Walshs' crosses. 
For the 2nd consecutive semi the white flag reappeared - leading then lose a man and then the game despite the dodgy 2nd goal.
Fair play to Ross County who grabbed their chance with both hands.
Fair play to Ross County who grabbed their chance with both hands.
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