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Old 26-03-2016, 14:25
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Nothing will change by the qualifiers many time failures will all be in their usual positions
It's all we've got, to be fair. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Helenio Herrera or Alex Ferguson couldn't do any better with these duds.
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Old 26-03-2016, 18:42
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It's all we've got, to be fair. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
With that pair a eejits in the middle of your defence, that have lost 6 goals in a week & the form Leigh Griffiths is in, it'll be like shooting fish in a barrel !!
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Old 26-03-2016, 19:44
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The ugly thumb has been in such 'form' Tony Watt gets a game ahead of him for Scotland. You forgot you've got big bomb scare Efe in there?
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Old 26-03-2016, 19:46
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He wins the game & you still slate him, yer a hard man to please Franco ? :confused

Never mind that tho, theres only one game tomorrow, the 'shire derby'

C'mon the " WEE VER "
He wins a meaningless friendly and has the keeper to thank for it. Hardly taking us to the Euros is he? A game that means nothing and the only changes he makes at the start is Kenny McLean coming in. Laughable.
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Old 26-03-2016, 22:11
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the keeper to thank for it. .
He looked great in his all green strip, dont you agree ?
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Old 26-03-2016, 22:29
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He looked great in his all green strip, dont you agree ?
Better than your lot play in it anyway. Craig Gordon should be finished now.
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Old 27-03-2016, 14:22
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Contrasting fortunes for the home nations ...

Scotland win away to the Czech Republic in a friendly and it is doom and gloom.

England win away to Germany in a friendly and they are champions of the world.

Who would be a Scotland fan eh??
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Old 27-03-2016, 14:35
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Contrasting fortunes for the home nations ...

Scotland win away to the Czech Republic in a friendly and it is doom and gloom.

England win away to Germany in a friendly and they are champions of the world.

Who would be a Scotland fan eh??
We seem to have developed this habit of winning under Strachan when it doesn't matter friendlies and dead rubbers,

When it matters is a different story.

This the opposite of how it used in the better days
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Old 27-03-2016, 14:47
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We seem to have developed this habit of winning under Strachan when it doesn't matter friendlies and dead rubbers,

When it matters is a different story.

This the opposite of how it used in the better days
The thing that worries me is that when Strachan came in we looked like we were going to play a more expansive/possession based game but that has been ditched to more of a defensive/counter attacking style that has never worked for us in the past.

You don't hand a team the initiative but setting up with that formation - that is exactly what happens.
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Old 27-03-2016, 16:10
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Contrasting fortunes for the home nations ...

Scotland win away to the Czech Republic in a friendly and it is doom and gloom.

England win away to Germany in a friendly and they are champions of the world.

Who would be a Scotland fan eh??
I'm pleased with the Scotland win but I'll keep it in perspective. Let's see how things go. We don't have a load of great players but maybe we can get enough out of the ones we do have....
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Old 29-03-2016, 22:34
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Another 1-0 win "no football" type of game - I would only give pass marks to McGinn on tonights performance. So many passengers who shouldn't be anywhere near a Scotland squad figured tonight and none of them did themselves any favours ...

Pitch was just about as honking as the game itself and 18k has to be one of the poorest, silent hampden internationals for quite some time.

Somebody is going to give us a right doing if we continue playing like this ...
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Old 29-03-2016, 22:38
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[quote=crofter;81971310]Another 1-0 win "no football" type of game - I would only give pass marks to McGinn on tonights performance. So many passengers who shouldn't be anywhere near a Scotland squad figured tonight and none of them did themselves any favours ...

Pitch was just about as honking as the game itself and 18k has to be one of the poorest, silent hampden internationals for quite some time.

Somebody is going to give us a right doing if we continue playing like this ...[/QUOTE

Even in friendlies we sit on 1 nils we probably won't get away with it in competitive games
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Old 30-03-2016, 09:26
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Strachan's football philosophy is dreadful to watch.
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Old 30-03-2016, 11:33
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Strachan's football philosophy is dreadful to watch.
So it's finally starting to click, this is the reason he was not loved by the 'Timmy horde' and nothing to do with his background.
I know people who had season tickets for 15 years and then gave them up during Strachans reign, he got results but it wasn't pretty, at times it was painful.
Now it's the Scotland fans turn to find this out the hard way!

TBF though we aren't exactly spoilt for replacements.
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Old 30-03-2016, 14:19
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No shape, no purpose, no width, players out of position - simply 10 men chasing the ball around and when they get it punt it up the park or lose it within 2 or 3 passes.

I also heard he took Tierney off at half time because he wanted "more height", meanwhile up front we have the giant trio of Anya, Maloney and Griffiths ...

On a serious note - how poor a player has Scott Brown become this season. Anonymous in the captain's role apart from getting involved in every bit of fisticuffs going.
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Old 30-03-2016, 14:50
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Scotland don't really have the players to play good football though Mulgrew, Maloney and Snodgrass are the only technically good players who spot passes and are decent in possession all the other players aren't the best of footballers, so the team is going to be limited. If Scotland want to play good football then they need to produce better players to start with.

More guys like McNamara, Mulgrew, Robertson, D.Fletcher, Lambert, Ferguson, Snodgrass, Maloney, McFadden and less types like Hutton, Weir, Hanley, McManus, Dailly, McArthur, Anya, McCulloch, Boyd and Miller.
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Old 30-03-2016, 16:37
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Scotland don't really have the players to play good football though Mulgrew, Maloney and Snodgrass are the only technically good players who spot passes and are decent in possession all the other players aren't the best of footballers, so the team is going to be limited. If Scotland want to play good football then they need to produce better players to start with.

More guys like McNamara, Mulgrew, Robertson, D.Fletcher, Lambert, Ferguson, Snodgrass, Maloney, McFadden and less types like Hutton, Weir, Hanley, McManus, Dailly, McArthur, Anya, McCulloch, Boyd and Miller.
Away and have a wee nap fella ... what a load of bollocks.
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Old 30-03-2016, 16:52
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A young Dailly, Weir or Miller would get in ahead of any of the bollocks like Mulgrew and McGinn or Fletcher. Strachan is leading us nowhere with this turgid football and friendlies where he caps the same old shite. He was pacing about waiting on the whistle like it was taking us to the Euros. It's depressing seeing him in charge and knowing we are going to blow it in Slovakia or Slovenia and Strachan saying 'ach well it wasn't must win'.
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Old 30-03-2016, 16:59
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where he caps the same old shite. '.
He gave Kieran Tierney his first cap, the youngest player in 53 years, away for a kip ya numpty
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Old 30-03-2016, 17:07
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A young Dailly, Weir or Miller would get in ahead of any of the bollocks like Mulgrew and McGinn or Fletcher. Strachan is leading us nowhere with this turgid football and friendlies where he caps the same old shite. He was pacing about waiting on the whistle like it was taking us to the Euros. It's depressing seeing him in charge and knowing we are going to blow it in Slovakia or Slovenia and Strachan saying 'ach well it wasn't must win'.
Your post lacks credibility when you mention Weir,Daily and Kenny Miller.
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Old 30-03-2016, 17:09
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He gave Kieran Tierney his first cap, the youngest player in 53 years, away for a kip ya numpty
Frankie will berate Tierney as he's a Celtic player. If he played for The Rangers however.....
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Old 30-03-2016, 17:12
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Think the real issues are he persists with the same old players despite multiple tournament failures .

We are very close to being able to field a team of 30 somethings .

Fielding players who aren't fit or haven't seen club action for months , he said this was going to stop but it's not. This is now championship level players who are not getting selected by their clubs.

The ignoring of spfl players outwith Celtic who are in form

The calling up of complete randoms because they are a big lad etc and then never seen again.

Players playing at u21 level not being allowed to progress

This will end the Craig brown way where the team was about 35 and they all needing to be replaced at once and no one to replace, yet vogts got the blame for this
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Old 30-03-2016, 18:50
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A young Dailly, Weir or Miller would get in ahead of any of the bollocks like Mulgrew and McGinn or Fletcher. Strachan is leading us nowhere with this turgid football and friendlies where he caps the same old shite. He was pacing about waiting on the whistle like it was taking us to the Euros. It's depressing seeing him in charge and knowing we are going to blow it in Slovakia or Slovenia and Strachan saying 'ach well it wasn't must win'.
No they wouldnt, they were dire. He's winning games which is about all you can do with the players he has.
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Old 30-03-2016, 19:00
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Think the real issues are he persists with the same old players despite multiple tournament failures .

We are very close to being able to field a team of 30 somethings .

Fielding players who aren't fit or haven't seen club action for months , he said this was going to stop but it's not. This is now championship level players who are not getting selected by their clubs.

The ignoring of spfl players outwith Celtic who are in form

The calling up of complete randoms because they are a big lad etc and then never seen again.

Players playing at u21 level not being allowed to progress

This will end the Craig brown way where the team was about 35 and they all needing to be replaced at once and no one to replace, yet vogts got the blame for this
I agree there are many duds or older players who should be cut out - Gordon, McGregor, Greer, Whittaker, Hutton, McArthur, Dorrans, Adam, McCormack guys who are old or who have been about for a long time without making the XI.

Mulgrew, Brown, D.Fletcher, Morrison, Naismith and S.Fletcher are probably still needed though because theres not much other options in their positions.

Only problem is there isn't that many good younger players to actually get a game, Tierney could play right-back even though he's left footed unorthodox but it could work. McGinn should stay around the team, hes a solid midfielder - probably the only player in Scotland I would sign for Celtic.

Liam Henderson is promising but still needs a full season at Celtic or in the SPL or a decent League to prove himself more. Other than them I can't think of anyone decent or deserving of a game. There's Tony Watt as well although he needs to screw the nut, I could imagine him being a good Scotland striker though, quick, strong, skillful but he could also not amount to much as he seems a bit wild and stupid off the park.

Also Gauld and Christie who look to have very good talent technically, watched the U21 game the other day and Christie played very well, not really kicked a ball for Celtic yet same with Gauld at Sporting.

Maybe could include players like Tierney, Henderson, McGinn, Christie, Gauld and Watt in the squads all the time though not as if there would be any harm in leaving out guys like Cooper, Whittaker, Bridcutt, Dorrans, Forrest, McCormack, C.Martin and guys like that who've done nothing and don't get a game anyway
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Old 30-03-2016, 19:54
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He gave Kieran Tierney his first cap, the youngest player in 53 years, away for a kip ya numpty
But took him off at half time because he is "too wee". Keep up ... you snooze you lose.

How a midget like Strachan can make a decision like that must peeve every young shortarse in the land ,,,

Out of these 2 games we have learned very little from what seemed like a cast of thousands.
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