Originally Posted by ayrshireman1:
“There isn't one England player who would get in many other teams. Their defence is poor, Cahill is overrated, Smalling is a donkey. Rooney is finished, Alli and Dier are again massively overhyped (the latter I just don't get the fuss about), Hart is overrated. Whats Wiltshire done in the last few years?. This is a team that was relying on an 18 year old sub to save them against Iceland. A lad in Man U reserves at New Year. The English media has hyped up a new generation of post 2014 kids who wouldn't get into the top Euro sides, club or international.
This England team barely beat a (on the day poor) Wales team, couldn't beat Slovakia, were pitiful against Iceland. Wales beat Russia 3-0 easily, England gets a draw. And looked average even in the warm up games. Even when beat us 3-1, they didn't look top drawer. We could have easily nicked a draw at Parkhead. And we are at best very average.
The players are simply not good enough, the manager is only part of the problem. No, they are not a 'different proposition' and to suggest with another manager they'd have trounced Iceland and would or can be a different and much better side is just nonsense. They were completely short of ideas, vision.......if Iceland had been a better team, 2-1 would have been a good result. As it was, Iceland could have made it 3 or 4-1 late on. Remember? Iceland!. Imagine what a Belgium, France, Italy, Germany, Spain would have done to them.
The players and their league are simply overhyped, overrated and not good enough at int level.”
“There isn't one England player who would get in many other teams. Their defence is poor, Cahill is overrated, Smalling is a donkey. Rooney is finished, Alli and Dier are again massively overhyped (the latter I just don't get the fuss about), Hart is overrated. Whats Wiltshire done in the last few years?. This is a team that was relying on an 18 year old sub to save them against Iceland. A lad in Man U reserves at New Year. The English media has hyped up a new generation of post 2014 kids who wouldn't get into the top Euro sides, club or international.
This England team barely beat a (on the day poor) Wales team, couldn't beat Slovakia, were pitiful against Iceland. Wales beat Russia 3-0 easily, England gets a draw. And looked average even in the warm up games. Even when beat us 3-1, they didn't look top drawer. We could have easily nicked a draw at Parkhead. And we are at best very average.
The players are simply not good enough, the manager is only part of the problem. No, they are not a 'different proposition' and to suggest with another manager they'd have trounced Iceland and would or can be a different and much better side is just nonsense. They were completely short of ideas, vision.......if Iceland had been a better team, 2-1 would have been a good result. As it was, Iceland could have made it 3 or 4-1 late on. Remember? Iceland!. Imagine what a Belgium, France, Italy, Germany, Spain would have done to them.
The players and their league are simply overhyped, overrated and not good enough at int level.”
England won 10 out of 10 in the qualifiers, but the players were playing well due to them being in the middle of the season, not burnt out after a long hard season. The euros was an extremely poor tournament that was won by an average, defensive Portugese side.
There is some overhype to the England players, but they have an embarrassment of riches in almost every position. A good manager will have them performing at tournaments and playing a recognisable system.
