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Old 31-07-2016, 17:40
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The Rangers v Peterhead
Dundee Utd v Partick
Celtic v Motherwell
Hamilton v Morton
Hibs v QOTS
St Johnstone v Hearts
Alloa v ICT
Ayr v Aberdeen

St Johnstone v Hearts looks the tie of the round.
Should be comfortable for Celtic. Aberdeen have a tricky game at Ayr.
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Old 31-07-2016, 20:15
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The Rangers is the name of the Plc/company. Rangers is the name of the team.

Can we move beyond such pettiness?.
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Old 31-07-2016, 21:23
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The Rangers is the name of the Plc/company. Rangers is the name of the team.

Can we move beyond such pettiness?.
It's weird that everywhere has them down as Rangers yet Celtic fans keep the same thing going and going And going and going. It's beyond boring
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Old 31-07-2016, 21:24
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Should be comfortable for Celtic. Aberdeen have a tricky game at Ayr.
After beating Ross County I think Alloa will fancy their chances against ICT as well.
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Old 01-08-2016, 00:15
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The Rangers is the name of the Plc/company. Rangers is the name of the team.

Can we move beyond such pettiness?.
No matter how many times you say it doesn't change the fact the club knows as Rangers FC was liquidated and this is a new club.

Did you go the burnley game? Reading reports I see burnley pressed high and the Rangers struggled to deal with it. Was that the case?
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Old 01-08-2016, 00:35
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No matter how many times you say it doesn't change the fact the club knows as Rangers FC was liquidated and this is a new club.
No matter how many times you say it, it doesn't make it true. It just bores loads of people.
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Old 01-08-2016, 17:26
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If Celtic really have made 4 bids that have been rejected for Scott Sinclair we either need to ask Villa what they want and pay if it is considered value for money or be looking elsewhere.

With the parachute payments they'll be getting Villa won't have to sell.
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Old 01-08-2016, 20:56
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No matter how many times you say it doesn't change the fact the club knows as Rangers FC was liquidated and this is a new club.

Did you go the burnley game? Reading reports I see burnley pressed high and the Rangers struggled to deal with it. Was that the case?
1----No, the club wasn't. The Plc was. And incorporation does not equal that either, as the sporting club and Plc remain two legal entities. As proven legally in a court of law. IF Green had not managed to start a new Plc and transfer over the Rangers assets inc history (which sounds odd but is legally a requirement), THEN we would have died. As we would have had no stadium to play in, or continuing history. Its the Plc that owns the bricks and mortar assets and on paper the history. Yes, we came close, far too close, to dying. Never again. But we managed to survive. If we exist for another 1000 years, the year of 2012 and how we got there should never be forgotten. Never again.

Celtic fans should remember the shambles of their club 1990-94 and how easily they spiralled out of control and how 2012 could have happened in 1994. Without that literally last minute BoS loan, it would have.

2--Yes, I was. It was a disappointing performance, at least for 60-65 mins. With the later subs, we started to play and ended the game much better, with more drive and a better shape. Burnley played well and looked sharp, but we frankly made them look like Barca. Was there a gap?. Yes. PL vs SPL. But not imo as much as it is or should be. Burnley and Celtic are the two best teams we will play this season, so that's a saving grace. They were surprisingly good, but we did flatter them with a poor performance.
Where we danced too much around the box, they were quicker and sharper and ruthless.

First 60 mins, we gave up far too much space in midfield. Failed to press enough. Not enough movement overall. Waghorn too wide, Miller not moving enough. McKay blew a bit hot and cold. The subs looked much sharper. Rossiter looks a wee gem, tough wee lad as well at 19. Dodoo looked quick, O Halloran has great pace.

Now the defence: AWFUL. Only Wallace played well at the back. Tav had a nightmare, and needs to improve or imo we go with the better if less flashy Hodson. Hill was surprisingly poor (maybe just a bad day), Kiernan had another suspect game, Wilson fine when he came on. Everyone knows that our CH's are our Achilles heel. On Saturday, they were exposed too often by clever passes. Hill at 37 maybe fine but as an older player losing pace, needs a younger quality CH and Kiernan isn't it at SPL/Euro level. Wilson is left footed like Hill so that's out. IMO pay the damn wages Adrian Mariappa wants or look for someone like Kyle Bartley. Nothing drastic is needed, just two CH's with pace and positional nous.

Ironically, we may already have the answer: Crooks. He is 6'4, a big big lad, and from what I have seen, is strong, physical, has pace, reads the game well, and for a British defender, has two good feet and passes the ball very well, either out of defence or as a DM. However, I'd still prefer him in midfield with Barton and get another quality CH.

Saturday WAS a wake up for some fans. Too many think Barton and Niko means we are heading back to the level we were, when we won leagues and competed in the CL as a serious club. We aren't, we are a vast improvement on 2012-15, but far from the finished article, still a work in progress. Rangers and Celtic essentially need to have teams far too good for the SPL, teams of a top EPL quality, teams that are designed to compete at European level. IMO Celtic aren't or at best barely are, and we are still behind Celtic.
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Old 02-08-2016, 00:00
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1----No, the club wasn't. The Plc was. And incorporation does not equal that either, as the sporting club and Plc remain two legal entities. As proven legally in a court of law. IF Green had not managed to start a new Plc and transfer over the Rangers assets inc history (which sounds odd but is legally a requirement), THEN we would have died. As we would have had no stadium to play in, or continuing history. Its the Plc that owns the bricks and mortar assets and on paper the history. Yes, we came close, far too close, to dying. Never again. But we managed to survive. If we exist for another 1000 years, the year of 2012 and how we got there should never be forgotten. Never again.

Celtic fans should remember the shambles of their club 1990-94 and how easily they spiralled out of control and how 2012 could have happened in 1994. Without that literally last minute BoS loan, it would have.

2--Yes, I was. It was a disappointing performance, at least for 60-65 mins. With the later subs, we started to play and ended the game much better, with more drive and a better shape. Burnley played well and looked sharp, but we frankly made them look like Barca. Was there a gap?. Yes. PL vs SPL. But not imo as much as it is or should be. Burnley and Celtic are the two best teams we will play this season, so that's a saving grace. They were surprisingly good, but we did flatter them with a poor performance.
Where we danced too much around the box, they were quicker and sharper and ruthless.

First 60 mins, we gave up far too much space in midfield. Failed to press enough. Not enough movement overall. Waghorn too wide, Miller not moving enough. McKay blew a bit hot and cold. The subs looked much sharper. Rossiter looks a wee gem, tough wee lad as well at 19. Dodoo looked quick, O Halloran has great pace.

Now the defence: AWFUL. Only Wallace played well at the back. Tav had a nightmare, and needs to improve or imo we go with the better if less flashy Hodson. Hill was surprisingly poor (maybe just a bad day), Kiernan had another suspect game, Wilson fine when he came on. Everyone knows that our CH's are our Achilles heel. On Saturday, they were exposed too often by clever passes. Hill at 37 maybe fine but as an older player losing pace, needs a younger quality CH and Kiernan isn't it at SPL/Euro level. Wilson is left footed like Hill so that's out. IMO pay the damn wages Adrian Mariappa wants or look for someone like Kyle Bartley. Nothing drastic is needed, just two CH's with pace and positional nous.

Ironically, we may already have the answer: Crooks. He is 6'4, a big big lad, and from what I have seen, is strong, physical, has pace, reads the game well, and for a British defender, has two good feet and passes the ball very well, either out of defence or as a DM. However, I'd still prefer him in midfield with Barton and get another quality CH.

Saturday WAS a wake up for some fans. Too many think Barton and Niko means we are heading back to the level we were, when we won leagues and competed in the CL as a serious club. We aren't, we are a vast improvement on 2012-15, but far from the finished article, still a work in progress. Rangers and Celtic essentially need to have teams far too good for the SPL, teams of a top EPL quality, teams that are designed to compete at European level. IMO Celtic aren't or at best barely are, and we are still behind Celtic.
Do they really though? its not as if they were too great even at their bests. Joe Ledley is better than Barton ever was and likewise Ki better than Kranjcar. It's not as if they are old players like Pirlo and Gerrard, they are old lower end relegation threatened EPL players like Lee Cattermole and David Dunn.
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Old 02-08-2016, 12:02
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Celtic game tomorrow live for all Celtic TV subscribers and not just outwith UK and Ireland.
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Old 02-08-2016, 12:31
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Celtic game tomorrow live for all Celtic TV subscribers and not just outwith UK and Ireland.
Jokers. Seems like a cash-grab to get subscribers
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Old 02-08-2016, 13:05
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Jokers. Seems like a cash-grab to get subscribers
Money well spent just for Summer.
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Old 02-08-2016, 17:18
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Looks like Scott Allan is away on loan to Rotherham.

Signed for no other reason than to piss off the other side who wanted him.


Neil Lennon gets a 5 game ban from UEFA.
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Old 02-08-2016, 19:49
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Can only be about 100 at the Celtic U20 v Annan game.

Cracking goal by Annan.
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Old 02-08-2016, 21:33
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Celtic U20s 5-1 Annan

A brass neck for Sevco who only beat them 2-0 I think O_O

The new boy from Dunfermline Crossan scored, Aitchison the 16 year old scored, Nesbitt got 2 and Hendry got the other.
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Old 02-08-2016, 21:39
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Celtic u20 5-1 Annan Athletic.

Maybe now ayrshireman1 will understand why I wasn't rushing to wax lyrical and heap praise on his team beating part time Annan Athletic?
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Old 02-08-2016, 22:03
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The Irish team Dundalk knocked out BATE Borisov and have qualified for the CL Play-offs. If Celtic get through that would be some draw, only having to beat an Irish team to qualify for the Champions League, wee short trip over would be ideal.
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Old 02-08-2016, 22:18
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The Irish team Dundalk knocked out BATE Borisov and have qualified for the CL Play-offs. If Celtic get through that would be some draw, only having to beat an Irish team to qualify for the Champions League, wee short trip over would be ideal.
Some result for Dundalk.
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Old 02-08-2016, 23:42
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Celtic u20 5-1 Annan Athletic.

Maybe now ayrshireman1 will understand why I wasn't rushing to wax lyrical and heap praise on his team beating part time Annan Athletic?
Reading the report seemed like they were very impressive. Zipped the ball around very slickly by all accounts.
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Old 03-08-2016, 00:04
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Reading the report seemed like they were very impressive. Zipped the ball around very slickly by all accounts.
Took them 10 minutes to settle down after losing a goal so early but once the equaliser went in there was only ever going to be one winner.

They played some good football.
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Old 03-08-2016, 17:06
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Celtic u20 5-1 Annan Athletic.

Maybe now ayrshireman1 will understand why I wasn't rushing to wax lyrical and heap praise on his team beating part time Annan Athletic?
Reading comprehension not a primary function in Catholic schools I see.

I clearly stated a few posts back, that when I remarked at the lack of praise for Rangers, it was NOT to do with the team on the park. But the club's ability to rebuild on and off the park and to attract big names (Barton, Krancjar) to the SPL again.
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Old 03-08-2016, 17:39
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Reading comprehension not a primary function in Catholic schools I see.
Oh dear.

Your mask is slipping quite quickly.

And just to clear things up for you I've never stepped foot in a Catholic school in my life.
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Old 03-08-2016, 18:56
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Oh dear.

Your mask is slipping quite quickly.

And just to clear things up for you I've never stepped foot in a Catholic school in my life.
Aye but how many girls schools ??

C'mon the Bhoys
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Old 03-08-2016, 21:09
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Craig Gordon making another mistake in Europe.

Constantly makes errors which leads to goals.
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Old 03-08-2016, 21:56
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Aye but how many girls schools ??

C'mon the Bhoys
The janitors at Albyn were always on the look out for riff raff like me.

Craig Gordon making another mistake in Europe.

Constantly makes errors which leads to goals.
Both penalties were stonewallers but with clearances like the one from Gordon we just make things so much tougher for ourselves.

Guaranteed European football until Christmas and probably around £8m through Europe so far so we need to get the chequebook out.
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