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Old 31-08-2016, 12:43
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According to Guillem Balague celtic made an approach for Bojan Krkic earlier in the window and it was knocked back
Would have been a cracking signing for Celtic.
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Old 31-08-2016, 13:41
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St Johnstone bring in Joe Gormley.

Could be a good signing for them, he certainly knew the way to goal at Cliftonville and we've seen how well Liam Boyce has done since he has came to Scotland.
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Old 31-08-2016, 15:05
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According to Guillem Balague celtic made an approach for Bojan Krkic earlier in the window and it was knocked back
He signed new 4 and a half year deal in February so there would be zero chance of signing him.
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Old 31-08-2016, 15:06
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lol the Daily Ranger

They tweeted Jozo Simunovic has failed his medical @ Torino however BBC say different:

@bbcjsutherland: Despite rumours to the contrary, hearing Jozo Simunovic has not failed his medical. Talks continue between Celtic and Torino @BBCSportScot
Craig Slater of Sky Sports F1 fame is standing outside Torinos ground and has confirmed that the two part medical has been completed and personal terms are being discussed.

Daily Record should look for new sources.
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Old 31-08-2016, 15:20
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Wasn't he the £5 million quid 'wonderkid' that Lawell personally jetted out to get?
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Old 31-08-2016, 15:36
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Which of their players were assaulted again? I don't think I've read any of their players saying they were assaulted but I've seen players wife's saying their partners weren't attacked.

A complete Level 5 story that one. Has a go at the SFA and Hibs conveniently ignoring the sectarian singing and the fact that if the The Rangers fans never invaded the pitch there would have been no fighting on the pitch.



Shame for the lad if he wanted away but hardly a shock.

Apparently he hasn't failed a medical and talks are still ongoing.
Utter drivel.

Firstly, I expect better of you that to try and ignore, deflect or even justify the clear verbal and physical assaults on our players that afternoon. Its actually quite pathetic to see how even intelligent fans like yourself have tried to ignore or laugh about this. Esp as your ex-manager was appallingly assaulted not so long ago. But when its us, its OK. After all, we are all just 1690-tattooed sectarian bigots, we deserve it, don't we?. The bias and hypocrisy is actually f*cking sickening. Imagine opposition fans ran on and verbally and physically assaulted and threatened YOUR players.

So we are at fault for the problems on the pitch?. Are you ******* kidding me?. 95% of the trouble that day was Hibs fans. I have told you personally what happened, as I was there. Whilst many Hibees were on to celebrate (which itself is another hypocritical issue), clearly a sizeable group you know the ones who immediately ran the full length, were on for nothing but a 'square go'. Sadly some idiot Gers fulfilled their wish.

But to try and suggest we are at fault for the events of that afternoon is pathetic. I/we as Rangers fans condemn 'our' morons who reacted, yet all we get is apologia that the Hibs fans were all on to celebrate. (As if invading the pitch was/is acceptable), If THEY hadn't did what they did, our fans, pissed off as they were, wouldn't have come on. Again, I wholeheartedly criticise those Gers fans who did. They stupidly rose to a bait.

Sectarian singing?. Funny how all those ears could hear ours, yet not the Hibs fans. BOTH sets sang dodgy songs that afternoon. Oh and self-righteous Celtic fans might want to clean up their own songbooks before criticising others. Smoke bombs?. Again, BOTH sets set them off. Again, I know as I was there. Hibs fans set them off at the start of the game, and at the end. In fact watch the TV coverage, and one goes off from the Hibs end as Gray is off and running after his goal.

Listen, we are no angels. We know that. We have our bampots and thugs. So criticise us for 2008 or Barcelona, or when we deserve it. But to try and blame Rangers fans for 21st May 2016 is just pathetic.

I expect this nonsense from Declan on Radio Clyde phone ins. Not a smarter fan like you.
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Old 31-08-2016, 15:38
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Utter drivel.

Firstly, I expect better of you that to try and ignore, deflect or even justify the clear verbal and physical assaults on our players that afternoon. Its actually quite pathetic to see how even intelligent fans like yourself have tried to ignore or laugh about this. Esp as your ex-manager was appallingly assaulted not so long ago. But when its us, its OK. After all, we are just 1690-tattooed sectarian bigots, we deserve it, don't we?. The bias and hypocrisy is actually f*cking sickening.

So we are at fault for the problems on the pitch?. Are you ******* kidding me?. 95% of the trouble that day was Hibs fans. I have told you personally what happened, as I was there. Whilst many Hibees were on to celebrate (which itself is another hypocritical issue), clearly a sizeable group you know the ones who immediately ran the full length, were on for nothing but a 'square go'. Sadly some idiot Gers fulfilled their wish.

But to try and suggest we are at fault for the events of that afternoon is pathetic. I/we as Rangers fans condemn 'our' morons who reacted, yet all we get is apologia that the Hibs fans were all on to celebrate. (As if invading the pitch was/is acceptable), If THEY hadn't did what they did, our fans, pissed off as they were, wouldn't have come on. Again, I wholeheartedly criticise those Gers fans who did. They stupidly rose to a bait.

Sectarian singing?. Funny how all those ears could hear ours, yet not the Hibs fans. BOTH sets sang dodgy songs that afternoon. Oh and self-righteous Celtic fans might want to clean up their own songbooks before criticising others. Smoke bombs?. Again, BOTH sets set them off. Again, I know as I was there. Hibs fans set them off at the start of the game, and at the end. In fact watch the TV coverage, and one goes off from the Hibs end as Gray is off and running after his goal.

Listen, we are no angels. We know that. We have our bampots and thugs. So criticise us for 2008 or Barcelona, or when we deserve it. But to try and blame Rangers fans for 21st May 2016 is just pathetic.

I expect this nonsense from Declan on Radio Clyde phone ins. Not a smarter fan like you.
tl;dr
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Old 31-08-2016, 15:42
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English please.
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Old 31-08-2016, 15:46
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Before it gets out of hand these are the charges against Hibs and Rangers, I'd be surprised if these can be defended...

Alleged rule breach in relation to Hibernian
In that at the above match you failed to adhere to the Cup Competition Rules, specifically Rule 28 of the Rules of The Scottish Cup. That at the above match damage was sustained to Hampden Stadium, being the stadium where the Scottish Cup Final was played, as a consequence of misbehaviour by supporters of your Club. That the misbehaviour by your supporters occurred at the conclusion of the above match, whereby a number of your supporters carried out an incursion onto the pitch, and thereafter remained upon the pitch until cleared by Police Scotland and Stewards. That in the course of this misbehaviour by your supporters damage was sustained to the stadium, as followsi) To the surface of the pitch, portions of which were removed; and/or(ii) To a set of goal posts which were broken and had netting removed; and/or(iii) To parts of the LED advertising system situated at the perimeter of the pitch, in the vicinity of both the East Stand, and/or the North Stand; and/or(iv) To advertising hoardings situated at the perimeter of the pitch, in the vicinity of the East Stand.

Alleged rule breach in relation to Rangers
In that at the above match you failed to adhere to the Cup Competition Rules, specifically Rule 28 of the Rules of The Scottish Cup. That at the above match damage was sustained to Hampden Stadium, being the stadium where the Scottish Cup Final was played, as a consequence of misbehaviour by supporters of your Club. That the misbehaviour by your supporters occurred at the conclusion of the above match whereby, following on from a pitch incursion by supporters of Hibernian FC, a number of your supporters also carried out an incursion onto the pitch. That thereafter supporters of your Club who had engaged in the pitch incursion remained upon the pitch until cleared by Police Scotland and Stewards. That in the course of this misbehaviour by your supporters damage was sustained to the stadium, as followsi) To parts of the LED advertising system situated at the perimeter of the pitch, in the vicinity of the North Stand, and /or the West Stand; and/or(ii) To advertising hoardings situated at the perimeter of the pitch, in the vicinity of the West Stand.


Think the fines will cover the repair costs, best for both if they accept and pay.
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Old 31-08-2016, 15:59
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Utter drivel.

Firstly, I expect better of you that to try and ignore, deflect or even justify the clear verbal and physical assaults on our players that afternoon. Its actually quite pathetic to see how even intelligent fans like yourself have tried to ignore or laugh about this. Esp as your ex-manager was appallingly assaulted not so long ago. But when its us, its OK. After all, we are all just 1690-tattooed sectarian bigots, we deserve it, don't we?. The bias and hypocrisy is actually f*cking sickening. Imagine opposition fans ran on and verbally and physically assaulted and threatened YOUR players.

So we are at fault for the problems on the pitch?. Are you ******* kidding me?. 95% of the trouble that day was Hibs fans. I have told you personally what happened, as I was there. Whilst many Hibees were on to celebrate (which itself is another hypocritical issue), clearly a sizeable group you know the ones who immediately ran the full length, were on for nothing but a 'square go'. Sadly some idiot Gers fulfilled their wish.

But to try and suggest we are at fault for the events of that afternoon is pathetic. I/we as Rangers fans condemn 'our' morons who reacted, yet all we get is apologia that the Hibs fans were all on to celebrate. (As if invading the pitch was/is acceptable), If THEY hadn't did what they did, our fans, pissed off as they were, wouldn't have come on. Again, I wholeheartedly criticise those Gers fans who did. They stupidly rose to a bait.

Sectarian singing?. Funny how all those ears could hear ours, yet not the Hibs fans. BOTH sets sang dodgy songs that afternoon. Oh and self-righteous Celtic fans might want to clean up their own songbooks before criticising others. Smoke bombs?. Again, BOTH sets set them off. Again, I know as I was there. Hibs fans set them off at the start of the game, and at the end. In fact watch the TV coverage, and one goes off from the Hibs end as Gray is off and running after his goal.

Listen, we are no angels. We know that. We have our bampots and thugs. So criticise us for 2008 or Barcelona, or when we deserve it. But to try and blame Rangers fans for 21st May 2016 is just pathetic.

I expect this nonsense from Declan on Radio Clyde phone ins. Not a smarter fan like you.
Wasn't the issue being your club refused to acknowledge that morons ran on the pitch looking for violence. The initial statement was one of defence of those fans claiming they were only seeking to protect the innocent.
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Old 31-08-2016, 16:03
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Too long; didn't read.

I'll assume it was similar to a previous post you've made though.

Wasn't the issue being your club refused to acknowledge that morons ran on the pitch looking for violence. The initial statement was one of defence of those fans claiming they were only seeking to protect the innocent.
We were told that they were absolute heroes who acted as they did to save the woman, children, elderly and disabled at the game.

Christ, the Vanguard Bears even started a justgiving page for the legal costs of these heroes - https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/vanguardbears

Unfortunately photos quickly surfaced of one of these heroes kicking a young Hibs supporter in the face.
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Old 31-08-2016, 16:18
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Utter drivel.

Firstly, I expect better of you that to try and ignore, deflect or even justify the clear verbal and physical assaults on our players that afternoon. Its actually quite pathetic to see how even intelligent fans like yourself have tried to ignore or laugh about this. Esp as your ex-manager was appallingly assaulted not so long ago. But when its us, its OK. After all, we are all just 1690-tattooed sectarian bigots, we deserve it, don't we?. The bias and hypocrisy is actually f*cking sickening. Imagine opposition fans ran on and verbally and physically assaulted and threatened YOUR players.

So we are at fault for the problems on the pitch?. Are you ******* kidding me?. 95% of the trouble that day was Hibs fans. I have told you personally what happened, as I was there. Whilst many Hibees were on to celebrate (which itself is another hypocritical issue), clearly a sizeable group you know the ones who immediately ran the full length, were on for nothing but a 'square go'. Sadly some idiot Gers fulfilled their wish.

But to try and suggest we are at fault for the events of that afternoon is pathetic. I/we as Rangers fans condemn 'our' morons who reacted, yet all we get is apologia that the Hibs fans were all on to celebrate. (As if invading the pitch was/is acceptable), If THEY hadn't did what they did, our fans, pissed off as they were, wouldn't have come on. Again, I wholeheartedly criticise those Gers fans who did. They stupidly rose to a bait.

Sectarian singing?. Funny how all those ears could hear ours, yet not the Hibs fans. BOTH sets sang dodgy songs that afternoon. Oh and self-righteous Celtic fans might want to clean up their own songbooks before criticising others. Smoke bombs?. Again, BOTH sets set them off. Again, I know as I was there. Hibs fans set them off at the start of the game, and at the end. In fact watch the TV coverage, and one goes off from the Hibs end as Gray is off and running after his goal.

Listen, we are no angels. We know that. We have our bampots and thugs. So criticise us for 2008 or Barcelona, or when we deserve it. But to try and blame Rangers fans for 21st May 2016 is just pathetic.

I expect this nonsense from Declan on Radio Clyde phone ins. Not a smarter fan like you.
When someone acts aggressively on a football pitch and then instigates a fight which the other player reacts to by fighting back is it only the instigator that gets punished?
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Old 31-08-2016, 17:44
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When someone acts aggressively on a football pitch and then instigates a fight which the other player reacts to by fighting back is it only the instigator that gets punished?
If you break equipment, damage the pitch because you decided to take the law into your own hands then you are responsible for the damage you cause.

Hibs face charges for the areas their fans damaged, Rangers likewise.

Just seen the Rangers statement - what bit of the facts behind the charges do they disagree with, were those advertising boards not damaged by Rangers fans?
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Old 31-08-2016, 17:47
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RANGERS’ Directors are shocked at the charges issued by the Scottish FA’s Compliance Officer in the wake of the pitch invasion at the end of the Scottish Cup final last May.

It is alarming that the governance of Scottish football is so lacking that it is impossible for the Scottish FA to guarantee the safety of footballers at the country’s showpiece event. The SFA is either unwilling or is powerless when it comes to taking the appropriate punitive action against the offenders.

A number of Rangers players were assaulted by Hibernian supporters in broad daylight on the Hampden surface and a repeat of this must be avoided at all costs. That should have been the priority of the SFA. Yet, the governing body insists it is not within its remit to issue any charges let alone punishments for such violent and dangerous misconduct. Instead of player and supporter safety they have placed all their emphasis and importance on the monetary value of a set of goalposts, pieces of turf, and advertising boards.

Rangers Directors will take time to consider an appropriate and more comprehensive response to redress our grievances but for the moment the board fully endorses the incredulity and anger of all Rangers supporters.
Laughable statement
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Old 31-08-2016, 17:49
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Laughable statement
Hibs have been charged over the conduct of their supporters, what more can the SFA do?

What next? The advertising boards deserved the damage they took because they were advertising Magners?
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Old 31-08-2016, 17:51
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Hibs have been charged over the conduct of their supporters, what more can the SFA do?
They keep referencing players were assaulted.
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Old 31-08-2016, 17:54
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They keep referencing players were assaulted.
Which is a matter for Police Scotland. Im sure a Rangers player could be their informant.
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Old 31-08-2016, 18:02
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Wee note that the Scottish transfer window shuts an hour after the english window.
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Old 31-08-2016, 19:40
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Good statement from the club - hopefully the next move will be telling the SFA to go and do one as their handling of the cup final has been a whitewash from all involved including Police Scotland thus far.
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Old 31-08-2016, 20:44
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Good statement from the club - hopefully the next move will be telling the SFA to go and do one as their handling of the cup final has been a whitewash from all involved including Police Scotland thus far.
Have there been no arrests like?

Fans have been arrested and charged so the fans who assaulted the Rangers players are being dealt with through the courts, Hibs are being dealt with by the SFA and so are Rangers.

What's the problem here? Did your fans not damage anything? If they didn't then the SFA should withdraw the charge.
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Old 31-08-2016, 21:22
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Jozo on his way back from Italy after Celtic and Torino failed to agree a deal.

Contrary to the DR medical was passed and personal terms agreed.
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Old 31-08-2016, 21:23
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Good statement from the club - hopefully the next move will be telling the SFA to go and do one as their handling of the cup final has been a whitewash from all involved including Police Scotland thus far.
The SFA are an incompetent mess of an organisation, I wouldn't expect anything different from them. It would be funny if we just boycotted the cup.
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Old 31-08-2016, 21:24
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Jozo on his way back from Italy after Celtic and Torino failed to agree a deal.

Contrary to the DR medical was passed and personal terms agreed.
So in other words he failed his medical because his knee is shagged.
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Old 31-08-2016, 21:35
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Sounds like the young guy we have got on loan from Norwich could be good. Norwich fans are not happy about him being loaned out even though it's only for 4 months

They paid around £3 million possibly rising to £6 million for him earlier this year
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Old 31-08-2016, 21:39
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Sad news coming in from CP - Efe Ambrose has turned down a move to Standard Liege.
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