Indeed, some of these individuals were part of drawing up the 5 way agreement in 2012 which had, as part of it, the intention of stripping trophies from Rangers before any judgement had been delivered on the EBT case.

Some people will no doubt think its all a bit hypocritical

Tax avoidance is morally repugnant in my opinion but as Timboy said individuals choosing to 'tax plan' for what they see as their best interests is very different to a 'clumpany' trying to pay employees tax free by using 'loans' that are never paid back.

Like I said, it's all down to individuals making decisions in the end. As for the loan scheme that remains under appeal.

For sure.
We only need look at Iceland, Hungary, Northern Ireland, Eire etc, all making it to Tournaments.
No sign of our decline being halted whatsoever.

They are being positive and working as a team, I see none of this with Scotland.

Its really sad. Hanley, the Martins and the Fletchers should be no where near these squads.
Berra? Bannan?

no no no

Poor Mark Warburton. Can you imagine Walter Smith being undermined like that... Jim Traynor is a buffoon.

https://twitter.com/McNallyMirror/st...08604781154304

Leaves Rangers as their PR guru, sets up PR firm and that firm becomes their PR guru. They never learn.

Tax avoidance is just as bad as evasion IMO. What we have with the story in the paper this morning is an attempt at muddying the waters and trying to say that what individual Celtic employees did with wages they had already paid PAYE and NI on is the same as the EBT scheme run at Ibrox.

This isn't a new story, it has been going about for years.

As has the use of EBT's - 2006 was the last time they were used. This is a lot more current and just too many staff on the Celtic payroll for it just to be a coincidence.

And there was me thinking the DR didn't know about tax laws.


What people do with their legally obtained salary is up to them, we all live and die by the decisions we make..

EBTs are not the same.

They know as much about tax laws as they do journalism.


Indeed.

I've always been open on this thread about my use of recreational substances.

Using the argument some are trying to put forward it would appear my use is the fault of my employer for paying me the wages they do.

The Rodgers revolution continues as John Park leaves the club.

A good, welcome win for Rangers. Cracking goal by Kenny Miller.

It was a fantastic strike.

Still Game was superb tonight as well.

Goal of the month so far ?

The Steven Dobbie free kick for QOTS against Linfield is up there as well.

Livi in trouble for fielding a suspended player against Crusaders in the Irn Bru Cup.

The old Atlantic league idea seems to be doing it's decade long run around. It won't happen will it? It would destroy the system and set precedents UEFA wouldn't want. I suppose the ultimate power is with the clubs (they say) but I doubt these clubs would want to be in open dispute.

It's seems to be a North European league of smaller countries as people envisage it -- more of a Baltic league. If they were being really ambitious they should seek to combine with the US market and have their league winners meet in an end of season final.

Can't see it happening though. It would rip up domestic leagues, UEFA competitions somewhat and lead the way to the big clubs having their own version on a far grander scale. Of course, that may come first anyway.

It's an old idea anyway so I assume it's unlikely.

My question (why I put this here) is would you genuinely prefer the Scottish domestic leagues without Celtic and Rangers? I accept that Rangers might not even be eligible as they are working their way back up but I'm counting them in as historically they've also dwarved other Scottish clubs, like Celtic have and do.

I would because it would be quite an exciting league in terms of who would challenge but it would hurt commercially I guess.

I'm not convinced that an Atlantic League would be a big success or a huge draw. Would Scottish fans be desperate to see Brondby and Genk? Would the TV companies pour in big money? Personally I reckon it's a non-starter, for various reasons.

As for a Scottish league without Rangers and Celtic it might be more competitive but at a lower standard. A bit like being in the present Championship compared to the Premiership. Which do you prefer?

If UEFA decided to close the Champions League so it's just the top 8 clubs in the top 4 leagues then the Atlantic league will become viable.

UEFA's plans for the CL are already turning into something of a closed shop so I could see the Atlantic League being viable proposition. I'd certainly like to see us playing teams of the calibre of Feyenoord, Ajax, PSV, Copenhagen, Brondby, Malmo, Gothenburg, Anderlecht, Club Brugge etc. every week. It could only be an improvement on the current standard of football and the combined TV deals should make it relatively lucrative with a good market for global branded sponsors.
It probably won't happen though and the FA's of the countries involved are just trying to get some leverage with UEFA.

Pumped 0-3 by Ayr today, has that mob of yours won a game this season ?

Great result today by the 'Wee VER'

Just shows you how bad the majority of stadiums still are up here compared to down south this weekend so took in the Brighton v Leicester game .

The Amex stadium was a fabulous ground modern comfy, wifi best pies I have ever had at any football ground , nice modern bar before the game as well.

Okay the ticket was 40 quid but subsidised rail travel was part of that.

I do feel all in it was 40 quid well spend, compared to the pushing 30 quid in some cases for a Scottish match day experience

I assume you enjoyed the bar given that Brighton were playing Preston.

The first half wasn't the best but it was much better second half

£40 is value for money to watch English second tier football!!

Oh my word.

Celtic season ticket holders on the 3 game pass paid £33 for the Man City game.

How much debt are Brighton And Hove Albion in again?