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Scottish Fitba Thread (Part 22)
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detroitcity
21-05-2014
Originally Posted by FrankieFixer:
“A pedestrian Motherwell side pipped you to second condemning you to play and probably go out of Europe against a team you've probably never even heard of. You're hardly strolling into the Champions League group stages with £80 million banked. Just try not to do too much damage to the coefficient.”

Codemning us to Europe?

You make it sound like the Ramsdens cup.
FrankieFixer
21-05-2014
Originally Posted by detroitcity:
“Codemning us to Europe?

You make it sound like the Ramsdens cup. ”

You're starting your campaign when the world cup is still on. You could be drawn against such heavyweights as College Europa, SP Tre Penne and Atlantas Klaipeda. You're in the same bracket as teams who finished third in Malta which should tell you what sort of achievement it is to finish third in Scotland.
Mark.
21-05-2014
Originally Posted by FrankieFixer:
“You're starting your campaign when the world cup is still on. You could be drawn against such heavyweights as College Europa, SP Tre Penne and Atlantas Klaipeda. You're in the same bracket as teams who finished third in Malta which should tell you what sort of achievement it is to finish third in Scotland.”

And you're in the second tier of the league system where finishing third ranks you alongside teams that finish third in Malta. What does that say about you?

Interesting you mention the coefficient. It's not really something you'll ever need to bother about.
crofter
21-05-2014
Originally Posted by detroitcity:
“I'm gutted that after all those years of Aberdeen being p1sh and flirting with relegation we finally become decent and didn't get the chance to play in football's holy grail.

The chance to play against the best players in Scotland, qualify for Europe and earn a decent bit of cash for a high finish all pale into insignificance when I think about the prospect of the Blue Brazil rolling up to Pittodrie in a fleet of Ford Fiesta's.

I will scan the Championship's scores on a Sunday morning in the paper but only after I've read my horoscope and Dear Deirdre. That's about my interest level in it and probably many others outwith fans of Championship teams.”

Sadly that is what the majority of fans will feel about the Premiership next season ... if Hamilton get back up then it will be horrific for Scottish Football as a whole.
detroitcity
21-05-2014
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indiana44
21-05-2014
Originally Posted by FrankieFixer:
“You're starting your campaign when the world cup is still on. You could be drawn against such heavyweights as College Europa, SP Tre Penne and Atlantas Klaipeda. You're in the same bracket as teams who finished third in Malta which should tell you what sort of achievement it is to finish third in Scotland.”


I get the impression that there is a special 'bitter and twisted' baton that various Rangers posters pass from one to another. You seem to be having quite a long leg.

This baton is waved in a sad, theatrical way at anything to do with the Premiership.

Look to within, mate,.
DUNDEEBOY
21-05-2014
2nil hibs probably tie over.

Hibs were a great price tonight, did not understand people raving about Hamilton.

Big gap between spl top and bottom sections and also spl and championship.

Still think hibs might struggle again next season though
FrankieFixer
21-05-2014
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“And you're in the second tier of the league system where finishing third ranks you alongside teams that finish third in Malta. What does that say about you?

Interesting you mention the coefficient. It's not really something you'll ever need to bother about.”

You're in a poor league that is only getting poorer, why even deny it? As for the coefficient I don't think the Barcelona result will be the end of the humiliation in Europe for Scottish clubs, Celtic included.
FrankieFixer
21-05-2014
Originally Posted by indiana44:
“I get the impression that there is a special 'bitter and twisted' baton that various Rangers posters pass from one to another. You seem to be having quite a long leg.

This baton is waved in a sad, theatrical way at anything to do with the Premiership.

Look to within, mate,.”

Yeah the whole world is bitter that it can't get into the Scottish Premiership to play Ross County and Partick Thistle and St Mirren. Why do you think it has no sponsors?
timboy
21-05-2014
Originally Posted by FrankieFixer:
“Yeah the whole world is bitter that it can't get into the Scottish Premiership to play Ross County and Partick Thistle and St Mirren. Why do you think it has no sponsors?”

Not the whole world, just Sevcovites.
DUNDEEBOY
21-05-2014
Originally Posted by timboy:
“Not the whole world, just Sevcovites.”

Agreed looking like the super duper championship won't have hibs in it
robo2
21-05-2014
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“But The Rangers are "the only show in town" - surely the SPFL should be fighting off the broadcasters willing to pay them?”


did you even bother to read the article - the tv deal would be null and void without the payment to show rangers games in the lower leagues, so they are paying the 250k to make millions, no rangers means a vastly reduced tv deal which is why the spl paid 800k to the sfl last year for the rights to rangers games - it was a condition to maintain the tv deal at the same levels we were at before, with rangers in the top league the deal would probably have been increased - this, the fact there is no sponsor without rangers in the top league and the viewing figures which were far higher for rangers in the third tier this year than any top league game prove that we are the only show in town, you lot have lost a fair bit of cash without rangers in the top league but it seems to be something that most of you cant bring yourself to admit
timboy
22-05-2014
Originally Posted by robo2:
“ with rangers in the top league the deal would probably have been increased”

But they died! They were incorporated, the club and company were the same thing. Liquidation = death.

Originally Posted by robo2:
“ the fact there is no sponsor without rangers in the top league”

What sponsor is there in the league The Rangers are currently in?

Originally Posted by robo2:
“the viewing figures which were far higher for rangers in the third tier this year than any top league game”

Really? There is a thread on here where I presume you could pull facts from. I am too lazy to check.

Have you got records from this season that prove this? The records The Football Life produced from 2012-13 show something different

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=0


Originally Posted by robo2:
“you lot have lost a fair bit of cash without rangers in the top league”

Mark is a Dundee FC fan, how much money have they lost since Rangers died and were restarted?
david16
22-05-2014
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“2nil hibs probably tie over.

Hibs were a great price tonight, did not understand people raving about Hamilton.

Big gap between spl top and bottom sections and also spl and championship.

Still think hibs might struggle again next season though”

The play off between the top tier and second tier must remain a permanent feature.

For the 11th place top flight team each season once again 3 years from now onwards to automatically escape relegation and not face a post season play off would be complete nonsense. It was ridiculous nonsense before.

I think the raving about Hamilton was much do with the form of Hibs. Let's be honest nobody could expected Hibs to have won that 1st leg as easily as they did with Hamilton barely having more than the odd shot at goal here and there.

But if Hamilton score 1st at the weekend it would be game on.

I highly doubt if Hamilton get promoted it would be one way traffic towards their goal for most of the 90 minutes most weeks.
Mark.
22-05-2014
Originally Posted by timboy:
“Mark is a Dundee FC fan, how much money have they lost since Rangers died and were restarted?”

You've got to love the mindset of Sevconians - anyone who says something against (The) Rangers is immediately a Celtic fan.

As it happens, the merger of the SPL and SFL, which was catalysed by Rangers going bust, has increased Dundee's prize money for winning the second tier by a whopping 468%.
FrankieFixer
22-05-2014
Originally Posted by timboy:
“Not the whole world, just Sevcovites.”

Where's the sponsor for this great league you're in?
FrankieFixer
22-05-2014
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“You've got to love the mindset of Sevconians - anyone who says something against (The) Rangers is immediately a Celtic fan.

As it happens, the merger of the SPL and SFL, which was catalysed by Rangers going bust, has increased Dundee's prize money for winning the second tier by a whopping 468%.”

A Dundee fan having a pop about the financial state of clubs? How many administrations is it now 2 or 3?
Mark.
22-05-2014
Originally Posted by FrankieFixer:
“A Dundee fan having a pop about the financial state of clubs? How many administrations is it now 2 or 3?”

Where am I "having a pop about the financial state of clubs"?
indiana44
22-05-2014
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“Agreed looking like the super duper championship won't have hibs in it”

Yes, what with Dundee seemingly looking as if they actually wanted to get promoted, and now Hibs looking as if they're going all out to stay in that crap top league, what's going on ?

Add in Dunfermline failing to join Utopia at the expense of Cowdenbeath, and the line up for Utopia looks less enticing by the week. But I'm sure Rangers and Hearts will be very happy.

At least Hearts fans live in reality, and realise they are where they are because of totally internal matters rather than rant on about everyone else in Scottish football.
timboy
22-05-2014
Originally Posted by FrankieFixer:
“Where's the sponsor for this great league you're in?”

I think you've mistaken me for someone who has said the Premiership is a great league. Granted it is better than the Championship but I didn't say it was great.
timboy
22-05-2014
The Daily Record are saying Neil Lennon has stepped down.
dtcdtcdtc
22-05-2014
5 live saying the same
bhoy07
22-05-2014
Oh well, was bound to happen sooner or later - hope the new man isn't Owen Coyle.

Pity Henrik got a new job this season.
timboy
22-05-2014
Originally Posted by bhoy07:
“Pity Henrik got a new job this season.”

I think he'd be a disaster as Celtic manager.
Caltonfan
22-05-2014
Kenny Shiels is available
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