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Old 08-08-2014, 21:38
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Old 08-08-2014, 22:43
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You asked why I didn't post about it during the week, I said I didn't see it. I looked at the incident after your post to me and it looked like a yellow card. What do you want an in depth post about a game that finished days ago? Rangers seemingly played scrappily and won 2-1 and there was a dodgy red card, the end.



Every goal against you should be cheered by any decent fan.
You constantly say we are obsessed about Rangers, yet all you do is talk about Celtic. Who's obsessed now?

Celtic had no bearing on the decision to reinstate. It was UEFA's alone. If Celtic really had influence with UEFA, we would be playing in the English Premier League.
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Old 09-08-2014, 02:59
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What a hilarious day!
My favourite part is the rest of Scottish football fans raging about it.
The same clubs who would all benefit financially from Celtic advancing through to the Chmapions League group stages.

That aside it's a huge let off and not one Celtic initiated. The uefa delegate noticed the administrative error. The Polish club may appeal but uefa only followed there own rules in the same way they always have in these cases.
Can you imagine the uproar at Legia though? That adminstrative error may have cost them tens of millions of pounds (they probably would have fancied their chances against Maribor)
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Old 09-08-2014, 05:11
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Can you imagine the uproar at Legia though? That adminstrative error may have cost them tens of millions of pounds (they probably would have fancied their chances against Maribor)
A pack of Polish skinheads were going through the pubs on Gorgie Road trying to find Celtic fans, so I don't feel that sorry for them.

As for Celtic, it may yet be a bit of a pyrrhic victory for them; even if they get to the group stage, sure they'd get paid, but can you imagine this Celtic side against one of the top 8 seeds? Still I'm all for helping the coefficient.
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Old 09-08-2014, 06:26
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Celtic accept fee believed to be £10m for Forster.

And there is the transfer budget folks.
Newcastle will get £2.5m through the sell on clause. We get £7.5m to spend. Not much.
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:11
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You asked why I didn't post about it during the week, I said I didn't see it. I looked at the incident after your post to me and it looked like a yellow card. What do you want an in depth post about a game that finished days ago? Rangers seemingly played scrappily and won 2-1 and there was a dodgy red card, the end.
A game on council telly and available on iplayer yet you never even saw the goals and dodgy decision until 3 days later but you managed to see the Celtic game!

The Utopiaship and the cup competition the top 10 Scottish teams don't take part in can't hold too much interest for you.

Can you imagine the uproar at Legia though? That adminstrative error may have cost them tens of millions of pounds (they probably would have fancied their chances against Maribor)
How much is the CL worth to a Polish side? What are the tv rights worth there?

A pack of Polish skinheads were going through the pubs on Gorgie Road trying to find Celtic fans, so I don't feel that sorry for them.
They were looking to start stuff on Costorphine Rd as well. At one point there was 4 police vans outside The Bothy.
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:46
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Old 09-08-2014, 10:24
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French born Comoros international Fouad 'Fred' Bachirou has left Morton for Swedish side Ostersunds for an undisclosed fee.

Sorry to see the wee man go, he is a class above anything we have and deserves a move out of this division
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Old 09-08-2014, 10:32
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French born Comoros international Fouad 'Fred' Bachirou has left Morton for Swedish side Ostersunds for an undisclosed fee.

Sorry to see the wee man go, he is a class above anything we have and deserves a move out of this division
What are your expectations for this season?

Will you go straight back up?
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:09
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Newcastle will get £2.5m through the sell on clause. We get £7.5m to spend. Not much.
Some say the sell on fee was under 20%.

It might not be much but Lennon got roughly the same in his first window when we signed 11 players.
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:35
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A game on council telly and available on iplayer yet you never even saw the goals and dodgy decision until 3 days later but you managed to see the Celtic game!

The Utopiaship and the cup competition the top 10 Scottish teams don't take part in can't hold too much interest for you.
Seems you're more interested in the Petrofac Training Cup than me. Have you checked if someone didn't cross a t or dot an i, maybe Celtic could get in through the back door?
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:45
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What are your expectations for this season?

Will you go straight back up?
Think we will be in the playoffs, Duffy has strengthened the defence but up front we look a little light,

Dunfermline will win the league I think
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:57
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Think we will be in the playoffs, Duffy has strengthened the defence but up front we look a little light,

Dunfermline will win the league I think
Can't believe Morton go and get relegated when the Championship looks to be the best it will probably ever be.
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Old 09-08-2014, 14:17
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Some say the sell on fee was under 20%.

It might not be much but Lennon got roughly the same in his first window when we signed 11 players.
Newcastle will get £2.5m through the sell on clause. We get £7.5m to spend. Not much.
20% of the profit so £1.6m. So should make £8.4m available.

Apparently FF offered to stay for Maribor but was told he had to go to invest his transfer fee back in the squad.
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Old 09-08-2014, 14:21
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Can you imagine the uproar at Legia though? That adminstrative error may have cost them tens of millions of pounds (they probably would have fancied their chances against Maribor)
It's a HUGE error the guy shouldn't have even been on the bench but they made a mistake and have been punished with a match forfeit.
The major irony is the standard punishment is the same score line that sends Celtic through.
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Old 09-08-2014, 14:36
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Can't believe Morton go and get relegated when the Championship looks to be the best it will probably ever be.
In the championship itself, Rangers, Hearts and Hibs will not beat all of the other 7 teams all 4 times.

In fact 2 of Rangers, Hearts and Hibs will not even reach the 70 points mark.

Raith Rovers will look at Hearts and Hibs as big derby games for them. And none of the big 3 will enjoy a trip to Cowdenbeath or Dumbarton on a wet and windswept Wednesday night.

In fact I could see all of the big 3 dropping as many points against Raith Rovers, Falkirk and Livingston in the same fashion as they would normally do against St Mirren, Kilmarnock or Ross County in the top league.
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Old 09-08-2014, 14:50
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It's a HUGE error the guy shouldn't have even been on the bench but they made a mistake and have been punished with a match forfeit.
The major irony is the standard punishment is the same score line that sends Celtic through.
Legia Warsaw before the 2nd leg probably expected to be on the back foot for almost the whole 90 minutes and desperately trying to cling on in the end trying to avoid that 3-0 defeat.

Possibly the reason for the suspened player. Did themselves out of a great result there for not believing they could do as well as they did.
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Old 09-08-2014, 15:45
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Looking forwrd to the bottom division 3 team at he end of the season facing the champions of the highland and lowland league to see which of the 3 will be playing division 3 football next season.
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Old 09-08-2014, 16:45
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In the championship itself, Rangers, Hearts and Hibs will not beat all of the other 7 teams all 4 times.

In fact 2 of Rangers, Hearts and Hibs will not even reach the 70 points mark.

Raith Rovers will look at Hearts and Hibs as big derby games for them. And none of the big 3 will enjoy a trip to Cowdenbeath or Dumbarton on a wet and windswept Wednesday night.

In fact I could see all of the big 3 dropping as many points against Raith Rovers, Falkirk and Livingston in the same fashion as they would normally do against St Mirren, Kilmarnock or Ross County in the top league.
Dundee won the league with 69 points, Hamilton 67 points and Falkirk 66 points. Even winning the league that would be dropping points in 41% of your games which seems unlikely for Rangers/Hearts/Hibs who are better than Dundee/Hamilton/Falkirk for me. I could see it being a close run thing with all 3 or Rangers/Hearts/Hibs in the top 3 spots possibly followed by Falkirk.

I went and watched the Rangers vs Hibs game as timboy was loving it so much and Hibs looked the better team so could pose a challenge for first place. The part time teams like Dumbarton, Cowdenbeath and Alloa will find this season tough going as the season progresses but anything can happen in this league.
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Old 09-08-2014, 17:18
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Dundee won the league with 69 points, Hamilton 67 points and Falkirk 66 points. Even winning the league that would be dropping points in 41% of your games which seems unlikely for Rangers/Hearts/Hibs who are better than Dundee/Hamilton/Falkirk for me. I could see it being a close run thing with all 3 or Rangers/Hearts/Hibs in the top 3 spots possibly followed by Falkirk.

I went and watched the Rangers vs Hibs game as timboy was loving it so much and Hibs looked the better team so could pose a challenge for first place. The part time teams like Dumbarton, Cowdenbeath and Alloa will find this season tough going as the season progresses but anything can happen in this league.
But I don't see Hibs, Hearts and Rangers picking up all 84 points on offer versus all the other 7, with the points they take off each other in addition.

Hibs and Hearts often lost and drew of games against St Mirren, Kilmarnock and Ross County 2 or 3 times in the campaign in the top league who are similar in nature to the likes of Rsith Rovers, Livingston and Falkirk it's far from a formality they will pick up the 3 points every time they meet such teams. With Hibs and Hearts both losing at home to St Mirren last season there is every possiliy both could slip to a defeat or draw or 2 away at Raith Rovers or Falkirk.

To think Hibs and Hearts will easily defeat Cowdenbeath and Dumbarton 3-0 5-0 or 6-1 e.g. away from home on a paddy field of a pitch on a wet and windy night in December and January is a bit of a nonsense. Dumbarton could very well draw with Hearts and Alloa could beat Hibs on such nights if they are not cast well adrift at the foot of the table.

Yes Rangers, Hearts and Hibs will probably finish the top 3 as expected. But there will be a few surprises and shocks involving the big 3 who are in the championship this season.

Hibs 2 Raith Rovers 1 is a bit too close for comfort against one of the 7 teams the are considered so far superior to in the league. Not exactly brushing aside such teams easily as some assumed.
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Old 09-08-2014, 18:09
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Just hope that this end of season play off between the top 2 leagues is a permanent thing and not just a temporary arrangement until Rangers Hearts and Hibs have all been promoted.

The 11th place top league team automatically escaping relegation all this long before last season was complete nonsense. Potentially the same 11 clubs of a 12 club division staying in the top league forever more for the rest of history with the 11th place team never facing an end of season play off tie against the team finishing either 2nd 3rd or 4th place team from the 2nd tier if the play off was never introduced would have been stale and anticompetitive. It was anticompetitive before and would be again if the play off is suddenly dropped again.

If Hibs were so vastly superior to Hamilton last season how did they lose over 2 legs? Anybody who suggests there should never have been a play off at the end of last season would be talking complete nonsense. The play off proved that Hibs did not deserve to automatically survive at the end of the 38 top league games.
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Old 09-08-2014, 18:29
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Hibs 2 Raith Rovers 1 is a bit too close for comfort against one of the 7 teams the are considered so far superior to in the league. Not exactly brushing aside such teams easily as some assumed.
Hibs were playing Livingston today.

I've seen about 10 of their last 20 matches and the only one they actually looked like the better team for spells was against Rangers and even then they still looked poor.

I wouldn't class Hibs as far superior to anyone in the league and would be shocked if they brushed teams aside on even the odd occasion.
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Old 09-08-2014, 18:33
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If Hibs were so vastly superior to Hamilton last season how did they lose over 2 legs? Anybody who suggests there should never have been a play off at the end of last season would be talking complete nonsense. The play off proved that Hibs did not deserve to automatically survive at the end of the 38 top league games.
No one on here ever said they were? I wasn't in the least surprised when Hamilton won the tie, was anyone? Hibs were on a run of something like 1 win in 20 games when they played Hamilton.
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Old 09-08-2014, 18:51
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welp
st mirren starting off where they finished .....

BEING RUBBISH!!!

also goodwin's a bloody idiot
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Old 09-08-2014, 21:53
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But I don't see Hibs, Hearts and Rangers picking up all 84 points on offer versus all the other 7, with the points they take off each other in addition.

Hibs and Hearts often lost and drew of games against St Mirren, Kilmarnock and Ross County 2 or 3 times in the campaign in the top league who are similar in nature to the likes of Rsith Rovers, Livingston and Falkirk it's far from a formality they will pick up the 3 points every time they meet such teams. With Hibs and Hearts both losing at home to St Mirren last season there is every possiliy both could slip to a defeat or draw or 2 away at Raith Rovers or Falkirk.

To think Hibs and Hearts will easily defeat Cowdenbeath and Dumbarton 3-0 5-0 or 6-1 e.g. away from home on a paddy field of a pitch on a wet and windy night in December and January is a bit of a nonsense. Dumbarton could very well draw with Hearts and Alloa could beat Hibs on such nights if they are not cast well adrift at the foot of the table.

Yes Rangers, Hearts and Hibs will probably finish the top 3 as expected. But there will be a few surprises and shocks involving the big 3 who are in the championship this season.

Rangers Hibs 2 Raith Rovers 1 is a bit too close for comfort against one of the 7 teams the are considered so far superior to in the league. Not exactly brushing aside such teams easily as some assumed.
Hibs beat Livingston 2-1 and Raith Rovers beat Dumbarton 3-1. The Dumbarton pitch is very good and Scotland train on it when staying at Cameron House. Cowdenbeath isn't so good but a part time team should be beaten at this level all things considered.

Rangers, Hearts and Hibs have every chance of dropping some points but they should amass a higher points total than the top 3 last year.
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