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Old 10-08-2014, 20:27
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If it was any team apart from Celtic you wouldn't give it a second thought but as it is Celtic the permarage is ripping you apart.

If you play a suspended player you take the punishment that goes with it.
Any fan of any club would want you beaten badly in every game in a competition you don't deserve to be in after that humiliating exit. Imagine seeing Germany beat Brazil 7-1 and then turfed out the world cup on some ridiculous technicality that made no difference to the result.
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Old 10-08-2014, 20:29
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It was to me! The Hearts fans were chanting "Is this a library?" and "You let your club die" to no response, it was a strange atmosphere really, I'd expected them to be up for it, the home end to be a wall of ugly noise, but nope, silence for the most part. I was ambivalent about the whole newco/sevco thing before, but I'm not really anymore- because you're not telling me that was the famous Glasgow Rangers. They were shite.

The whole plan to win the SPFL in 2017 looks laughably hollow now.
Were you watching it on the TV? Might be a bit early to write off people after 1 game in August.
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Old 10-08-2014, 20:44
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Had a day off today, decided to get a ticket for the game, queue for 40 mins for a ticket, i then go and get a bite to eat and a drink, just under 6 quid for something i could easily buy from the burger vans for under 3 quid and stuff it up my juke, i sat and watched the 1st half saying to my self that those missed chances are going to come back and bite us on the arse, so second half kicks off and i'm sitting there wonder why the hell did i pay to watch this putrid shit served up time and time again with nothing changed.

Its time for the moment of madness to kick in, law who is in the right place at the right time scores, i see ole ricky boy hobbiling towords the dugout as the players go back into formation instead ally doesn't bring on a defender, he dumps lee mcculoch from defense into the middle of the park while ally is still farting about with a sub and then it was too late, sow goes up the park walcing through rangers players like a ninja and scores, stunned absolutely stunned, it wasn't till i got home about 2 hours ago that i watched the replay of sow's goal that i noticed for the first time that lee mcculoch didn't stick his elbo into his jaw, instead he moves out the way. *well done **** face well done
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Who does ally blame for the result? him self for his superier tactics? his **** up for the non sub? the weather? time of the day? nOOO CHARLES ****ING GREEN, he blames it on charles green for the comments he made the other day in the paper, sorry ally you used that excuse the last time so no more, REMOVE YOUR FOLDED ARMS AND PACK YOUR ****ING BAGS AND GET THE **** AWAY FROM THE CLUB, wont be back till that **** and the rest of the ******* coaching staff goes.
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Old 10-08-2014, 20:50
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Any fan of any club would want you beaten badly in every game in a competition you don't deserve to be in after that humiliating exit. Imagine seeing Germany beat Brazil 7-1 and then turfed out the world cup on some ridiculous technicality that made no difference to the result.
If you play a player who is suspended then you lose the game 3-0 unless the opposing team is won by 4 goals.

No if's, but's or maybe's that is the rule.

Several teams have fallen foul of the rule - Newcastle almost did with Lee Bowyer.

Legia claim there are four people claiming responsibility for the rule breaking - but that isn't Celtic's fault nor problem.
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Old 10-08-2014, 20:51
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Had a day off today, decided to get a ticket for the game, queue for 40 mins for a ticket, i then go and get a bite to eat and a drink, just under 6 quid for something i could easily buy from the burger vans for under 3 quid and stuff it up my juke, i sat and watched the 1st half saying to my self that those missed chances are going to come back and bite us on the arse, so second half kicks off and i'm sitting there wonder why the hell did i pay to watch this putrid shit served up time and time again with nothing changed.

Its time for the moment of madness to kick in, law who is in the right place at the right time scores, i see ole ricky boy hobbiling towords the dugout as the players go back into formation instead ally doesn't bring on a defender, he dumps lee mcculoch from defense into the middle of the park while ally is still farting about with a sub and then it was too late, sow goes up the park walcing through rangers players like a ninja and scores, stunned absolutely stunned, it wasn't till i got home about 2 hours ago that i watched the replay of sow's goal that i noticed for the first time that lee mcculoch didn't stick his elbo into his jaw, instead he moves out the way. *well done **** face well done
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Who does ally blame for the result? him self for his superier tactics? his **** up for the non sub? the weather? time of the day? nOOO CHARLES ****ING GREEN, he blames it on charles green for the comments he made the other day in the paper, sorry ally you used that excuse the last time so no more, REMOVE YOUR FOLDED ARMS AND PACK YOUR ****ING BAGS AND GET THE **** AWAY FROM THE CLUB, wont be back till that **** and the rest of the ******* coaching staff goes.

Ally must stay and be given millions to spend asap.
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Old 10-08-2014, 20:58
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Were you watching it on the TV? Might be a bit early to write off people after 1 game in August.
No. I was there, in the corner. https://twitter.com/unlimitedricepd/...238720/photo/1

I never understood why Rangers didn't, say, get Rowan Alexander in. His Gretna side dominated those leagues and their total budget would have been less than McCoist & McCulloch's wages. Hell you could get anyone in as manager and improve. Terry 'Hoofball' Butcher would do a better job than McCoist at this point methinks. Well maybe.

Hearts weren't that good today, better organised than last year, yes, showing potential, yes, but teams are still likely to still get chances against us. Dundee Utd or Aberdeen would have killed Rangers today.
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Old 10-08-2014, 21:04
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No. I was there, in the corner. https://twitter.com/unlimitedricepd/...238720/photo/1

I never understood why Rangers didn't, say, get Rowan Alexander in. His Gretna side dominated those leagues and their total budget would have been less than McCoist & McCulloch's wages. Hell you could get anyone in as manager and improve. Terry 'Hoofball' Butcher would do a better job than McCoist at this point methinks. Well maybe.

Hearts weren't that good today, better organised than last year, yes, showing potential, yes, but teams are still likely to still get chances against us. Dundee Utd or Aberdeen would have killed Rangers today.
The fans usually react to positive play on the park and no positive play means no noise so it is a viscous circle. Hearts weren't a very good team and should have been a few down at half time as Rangers missed a few sitters. Come the end of the season Rangers should still win the league but there was more drama today than there will be in the whole of this season in the Sottish Premiership at the top.

I don't think McCoist is the man for the job and hasn't been for some time. I'd say probably McInnes or McCall would be the best choice although Ally wouldn't leave.
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Old 10-08-2014, 21:16
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If you play a player who is suspended then you lose the game 3-0 unless the opposing team is won by 4 goals.

No if's, but's or maybe's that is the rule.

Several teams have fallen foul of the rule - Newcastle almost did with Lee Bowyer.

Legia claim there are four people claiming responsibility for the rule breaking - but that isn't Celtic's fault nor problem.
It's the lowest of the low to go through in such an embarrassing way especially losing 6-1. I'd hope all fans actively sought your swift exit from the competition given the manner you went through. Legia are looking for decency and integrity from Celtic but we know that won't be forthcoming.
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Old 10-08-2014, 21:32
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It's the lowest of the low to go through in such an embarrassing way especially losing 6-1. I'd hope all fans actively sought your swift exit from the competition given the manner you went through. Legia are looking for decency and integrity from Celtic but we know that won't be forthcoming.
Rules are rules - there is also no rule that will allow Celtic to withdraw from the CL and play in the EL.

Ignorance of the rules should never be an excuse not to be punished.
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Old 10-08-2014, 21:50
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If we take things to their logical conclusion, the rules that have put Celtic through are the same rules that stipulated Legia did indeed win 6-1 on aggregate; I mean, I'm pretty sure it's the rulebook that defines when a goal is scored and what it actually means when one team scores more than the other.

Or are rules being picked and chosen?
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Old 10-08-2014, 23:12
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WOW

reading the "letter" from legia ..... WHAT A BUNCH OF WHINERS!!!

you screwed up
YOUR FAULT
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Old 10-08-2014, 23:34
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It's the lowest of the low to go through in such an embarrassing way especially losing 6-1. I'd hope all fans actively sought your swift exit from the competition given the manner you went through. Legia are looking for decency and integrity from Celtic but we know that won't be forthcoming.
I would say it is lower to win leagues with players that are on a dodgy loan scheme, without which would be unaffordable.
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Old 11-08-2014, 01:41
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I would say it is lower to win leagues with players that are on a dodgy loan scheme, without which would be unaffordable.
The court failed to agree with you there. I don't think you would know much about tax laws.
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Old 11-08-2014, 07:49
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Drinks are pretty cheap I was about 1.50 a pint early, decent food is not that much cheaper than here, travel is dirt cheap.

I suspect it would be pretty low the monthly wage, you would not think so by the way women are dressed

Final port of call is krakow for a few days where I expect it to be a bit dearer
Wiki says, so the potential to be wrong is there, that the average wage in the the UK is 3.66 times what it is in Poland so in reality you paid £33 for that ticket. Does it still seem so cheap?

On the subject of Legia v Celtic, irrespective of scoreline at time the rules are the rules. I do believe a play off in neutral venue may be a better solution. But Legia weren't thrown out, Celtic went 'through' on away goals due to being given a 3-0 win.
You are right when you say that Legia weren't thrown out. UEFA rules were followed.

Any fan of any club would want you beaten badly in every game in a competition you don't deserve to be in after that humiliating exit.
We followed the rules and didn't play any suspended players. End of. If Legia did the same they'd have been in the CL draw. Unfortunately for them they never.

It's the lowest of the low to go through in such an embarrassing way especially losing 6-1. I'd hope all fans actively sought your swift exit from the competition given the manner you went through. Legia are looking for decency and integrity from Celtic but we know that won't be forthcoming.
Coming from a fan of the dead club who refused to travel to play Anzhi and had the game moved....

In Scotland it is only fans of the dead club who are acting like this. Fans of other teams realise how lucky Celtic were to get through but understand, because they are not thick, that Legia broke the rules and need to be punished for that.

The court failed to agree with you there. I don't think you would know much about tax laws.
You surely aren't so dumb that you believe you won that?
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:35
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The court failed to agree with you there. I don't think you would know much about tax laws.
I'm not a tax lawyer.
Anyway, Rangers died.
Some new team are playing in their old stadium.
The owners are taking money out hand over fist.
All good.
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:41
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Celtic set to complete the signing of Bulgarian winger Tonev later today.

Seems he won't be the only new face at CP this week.
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:44
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After two fairly routine seasons, in a league with Hibs and Hearts, I felt this season we will see how far Rangers have progressed.
I think one of the relegated teams will take the title and Rangers will have to try luck through a play off.
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:07
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After two fairly routine seasons, in a league with Hibs and Hearts, I felt this season we will see how far Rangers have progressed.
I think one of the relegated teams will take the title and Rangers will have to try luck through a play off.
with McCoist in charge I think they'll finish 3rd but go up via the playoffs.
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:33
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with McCoist in charge I think they'll finish 3rd but go up via the playoffs.
Would depend on who they get in the playoffs. I don't think the team below always has the advantage there may be a season the Premiership team stays up.

If say Raith were top by a mile by Xmas we could be talking about another competitive Championship in 2015/16.

How this will affect the Premiership who knows? No doubt they would have to continue to show Championship games.
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:36
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Well I'll be talking about the time the Hibs goalkeeper scored a goal for a long time. Never seen anything like it.

Hibs played really well first half and could have been 4 or 5 up. Second half we were rotten and Livi without troubling us too much could have sneaked a point. They hit bar twice. Like the look of Stanton, El Alagui will be a real asset for us.

Also told all my Hearts mates they'd win today, could not understand why Rangers were 8/11. We were pretty much on top before red card the other night. I actually hope it's Hibs and Hearts that go up. I think this will be a very competitive league. Looking forward to it.

On the subject of Legia v Celtic, irrespective of scoreline at time the rules are the rules. I do believe a play off in neutral venue may be a better solution. But Legia weren't thrown out, Celtic went 'through' on away goals due to being given a 3-0 win.
Hibs goal was the exact same as Tim Howard's in 2012 youtube it
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Old 11-08-2014, 13:19
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Celtic set to complete the signing of Bulgarian winger Tonev later today.

Seems he won't be the only new face at CP this week.
Is the the Manager's buy or Lawell and Park's? They wanted him last year before he went to Villa.

Another loan deal as well. Are they actually going to spend some money?
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Old 11-08-2014, 14:28
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No. I was there, in the corner. https://twitter.com/unlimitedricepd/...238720/photo/1

I never understood why Rangers didn't, say, get Rowan Alexander in. His Gretna side dominated those leagues and their total budget would have been less than McCoist & McCulloch's wages. Hell you could get anyone in as manager and improve. Terry 'Hoofball' Butcher would do a better job than McCoist at this point methinks. Well maybe.

Hearts weren't that good today, better organised than last year, yes, showing potential, yes, but teams are still likely to still get chances against us. Dundee Utd or Aberdeen would have killed Rangers today.
McCoist is simply employed as a figure head to keep the punters (semi) happy and let the board members do their job of plundering as much cash as they can get their stinking hands on. Of course if we don't walk this league the charade will quickly fall apart.

TBH I will be very happy when he gets the boot as it will be a signal that we may have taken the first steps towards getting our club back ...
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Old 11-08-2014, 14:30
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I'm not a tax lawyer.
Anyway, Rangers died.
Some new team are playing in their old stadium.
The owners are taking money out hand over fist.
All good.
Yet you along with your fellow "backdoor bruisers" seem just as obsessed.
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Old 11-08-2014, 16:25
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Yet you along with your fellow "backdoor bruisers" seem just as obsessed.
May I say I am NOT a Celtic supporter. Didn't think I needed to be to dislike Rangers (in whatever incarnation) and everything they stand for.
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Old 11-08-2014, 18:31
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Is the the Manager's buy or Lawell and Park's? They wanted him last year before he went to Villa.

Another loan deal as well. Are they actually going to spend some money?
I imagine Parks with Ronnys approval.

Don't mind load signing with agreed option to buy - avoids Bangura and Balde wastes
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