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Redcoat · 22-05-2015, 20:37

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Reminds me of the T-Mobile 2g rollout circa 2000 - didn't they forget all about Northern Ireland?

They "launched" in NI in 2002, though they did have an unofficial presence in Belfast before that.

Stereo Steve · 22-05-2015, 22:32

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At that distance you might actually be able to get some three 4g indoor coverage, I've no reference to go on but the power seems much lower for the 800mhz then say the 2100 or 1800, hard to work out I guess but I wonder what the coverage would be at this strength, still greater then the 21st 3g? Or equal? As I say I've no reference but if it's this power the equal the 3g footprint it sort of shoots the advantage of 800mhz in both feet, if it's to somehow stop the mast reaching out too far and messing up reception for other masts on the same frequency like dad's single frequency network then I'd understand..

But isn't that just because if your phone (and remember most folk are not techy) picks up a nice 800 signal, it will hook up to it and then you have no voice. For 3, 800 can't be reaching further than 2100 or it will screw everything up. Similar problem for all networks in the short term. A conundrum. Option is to get VoLTE working and only allow VoLTE devices to hook up to 800 in some way. Not sure how they would do that.

jonmorris · 22-05-2015, 22:47

800 is being launched in conjunction with VoLTE, but it's not immediately clear how owners of phones without 800 support (including the recently launched Honor 6 Plus) will be able to use it. Or indeed the many SIM only users with devices not supplied by Three and potentially without any chance of an update to enable VoLTE.

Will 800 be limited only to devices using VoLTE or mobile broadband devices that don't offer voice, or will - for the first time - Three users potentially get a data-only service because 800 has now gone way beyond the 1800/2100 coverage?

I'd gladly lose 3G and voice, having data only, even now - and, as I've said before, wish phones had been set up to show separate voice and data coverage, just like we have Wi-Fi and mobile signal meters.

DevonBloke · 23-05-2015, 00:12

Those Watts figures can't be antenna output power for a start. I mean a handset only puts out 1 watt max so there's no point.
Not sure what they are but probably some kind of power consumption of the kit in the cabs.
1800 is not only 4G but 2G as well which may explain why that's the highest figure.
Notice how both 800 and 2600 are 80 watts. Why would 2600 have to be lower if it was antenna output power.

Jon & Steve, 800 WILL have to be restricted to VoLTE and data devices otherwise there is no point rolling it out.

RAN Man has stated that this can easily be done using the HLR/HSS by blocking all handset IMEIs that may well have 800 but can't do VoLTE such as the iPhone 5c and 5s.

800 could then be output at full power.

I'm probably talking bollocks but how the hell else are they going to do it?

jaffboy151 · 23-05-2015, 08:18

Is there any way three might get round this for none volte subscribers who have an 800mhz phone like my S4 & Note 3 by using the in touch app?
Also is it my understanding that if I buy a sim only iPhone 6 or a S6 from Amazon or eBay and not from three then I still cannot use volte and therefore the 800mhz? If so then there has been quite a bit of investment in a technology that will for a few years serve very few., and by the time it becomes the norm might get superseded by the next gen tech anyway?
Apart from three, no other network face this problem to quite the same extent does it.

wb9999 · 23-05-2015, 08:43

I can only get Three data at present (no voice). The Three 4G signal is pretty good indoors on 1800, but the 3G is atrocious and only available outdoors. They don't seem to be too bothered about it. I think too much emphasis is being placed on the idea that networks are rolling out 4G just to the extent of 3G signal, but my experience shows different. I posted on the EE thread that there are 3 EE transmitters near me broadcasting 2G and 4G, but no 3G and the 3G from nearby transmitters is patchy and sometimes non-existant.

Thine Wonk · 23-05-2015, 08:53

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Originally Posted by wb9999

I can only get Three data at present (no voice). The Three 4G signal is pretty good indoors on 1800, but the 3G is atrocious and only available outdoors. They don't seem to be too bothered about it. I think too much emphasis is being placed on the idea that networks are rolling out 4G just to the extent of 3G signal, but my experience shows different. I posted on the EE thread that there are 3 EE transmitters near me broadcasting 2G and 4G, but no 3G and the 3G from nearby transmitters is patchy and sometimes non-existant.

In 6 months they'll be VoLTE though right? You are in an unusual situation and probably should have checked you had 3g coverage before choosing the network as before 4G you wouldn't have got any service. You might be able to get a signal box if you're on a contract, I have no idea if they still issue those, if you have WiFi at home there's Three in Touch.

wb9999 · 23-05-2015, 09:03

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Originally Posted by Thine Wonk

In 6 months they'll be VoLTE though right? You are in an unusual situation and probably should have checked you had 3g coverage before choosing the network as before 4G you wouldn't have got any service. You might be able to get a signal box if you're on a contract, I have no idea if they still issue those, if you have WiFi at home there's Three in Touch.

Thanks. That wasn't my point though

it wasn't a complaint, as my main sim is EE and there is excellent 4G coverage here so I'm a happy bunny. The point was about the discussion regarding limiting 4G to 3G areas only for those who would have non-VOLTE capable phones on 800MHz.

Paul_P · 23-05-2015, 10:14

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Originally Posted by InfamousTeal

Just while I'm here I thought I'd remind everyone that while it looks like Three's 4G rollout "isn't great" in England etc, take a look at Northern Ireland on the coverage checker!

That's right, still not one 4G mast :')

I'm aware they're "trying", but come on, we're not some remote settlement, EE have had 4G in even small towns here for about a year, if not more!

And the Three shops are shamelessly hawking contracts on the back of 4g, when I took out my present contract, it was to be "in a few months" That contract is up in a month and they're still saying it'll be here "shortly"

They still have big stickers in their windows saying "4G It's here" which is true enough, just not on their network. It doesn't bother me as 3g does everything I need, but if you were signing up on the basis of 4G, you'd have every right to be annoyed.

The one thing they have going for them is that the 3G is good out in rural Co. Down.

d123 · 23-05-2015, 13:18

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Originally Posted by jaffboy151

Also is it my understanding that if I buy a sim only iPhone 6 or a S6 from Amazon or eBay and not from three then I still cannot use volte and therefore the 800mhz?

Not true for the iPhone, but unfortunately true for the Samsung unless you can flash the network branded firmware into the phone (which can invalidate your warranty).

Zee_Bukhari · 24-05-2015, 09:03

how damn stupid Microsoft introduced VoLTE in Windows Phone update 1, I like to use unbranded devices so why should we have to have network firmware to use a service. They should be able to push settings out for ALL devices to support this.

Zee_Bukhari · 24-05-2015, 10:08

anyway, another mast surrounding my street looks to go 4G in the next few days, work is planned from 26th till 1st June. Poll swap again. That's what happened to the mast closest to my house and the next day it was broadcasting 3 4G.

Also another one between 31st July and 2nd June. Looks like they are beginning to step up their game, in my area at least.

jaffboy151 · 26-05-2015, 21:31

This is a 1st for three at least for me anyway..
Got a text today which said:

Hello. There is planned maintenance in the Crewe CW1 3HT area this week. If your service is affected, you can get updates here bit.ly/1L43qYP

So what's this likely to be about then?
And what makes it different from the rest of the time I have no signal from three then, and what makes them think this mast will have any impact on my coverage? It's near me but still about 5-8 miles away, whereas my nearest mast is half a mile away..

lightspeed2398 · 26-05-2015, 21:38

It's probably just a general text to make sure that any one in the area is aware of the potential outage. It could be 4g upgrades for Three, or if the mast is shared with other networks they could be doing maintenance.

Gigabit · 26-05-2015, 21:43

"A revolution is coming to Three...and it's fury..."

iTech · 26-05-2015, 22:01

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Originally Posted by Gigabit

"A revolution is coming to Three...and it's fury..."

It had better be good (network) and nothing to do with those bl**dy horses.....I'm getting really tired of the slow coverage expansion and speeds I am getting in some of my commonly used locations (East Croydon station - just over 1 meg on 4G). The network is going from hero (as it was with 3G to zero).

clewsy · 26-05-2015, 22:16

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Originally Posted by jaffboy151

This is a 1st for three at least for me anyway..
Got a text today which said:

Hello. There is planned maintenance in the Crewe CW1 3HT area this week. If your service is affected, you can get updates here bit.ly/1L43qYP

So what's this likely to be about then?
And what makes it different from the rest of the time I have no signal from three then, and what makes them think this mast will have any impact on my coverage? It's near me but still about 5-8 miles away, whereas my nearest mast is half a mile away..

Well know o2/VF are doing 4g work soon in Crewe. Not sure on 3.

My text today was some bazzare survey they wanted me to complete and offered me some free mins as well for it.

Zee_Bukhari · 27-05-2015, 02:29

When you check the 3 service status page, and there is worth in your area, it may just give 1 day, but if you check roadworks.org and click on the phone sign were you know a mast is, if it says T-Mobile is doing worth there it may well say a coupe of days, it'll likely be 3 upgrading the mast for 4G, especially when It states a poll change.

Zee_Bukhari · 27-05-2015, 02:34

When you check the 3 service status page, and there is work in your area, it may just give 1 day, but if you check roadworks.org and click on the phone sign were you know a mast is, if it says T-Mobile is doing work there it may well say a coupe of days, it'll likely be 3 upgrading the mast for 4G, especially when It states a poll change.

Three coverage checker says work is to be done on a mast on 28th May 2015 on a mast on the other end of my road, although roadworks,org stated 26th May till 1st June.

This what it says,

"HIAB WORKS- Hiab to be placed on the footway to conduct a pole swap. 1.2m of the footway to left for pedestrians."

"CIVILS WORKS- Technicians to work on the cabinets of the telecoms mast. Minor Excavation works to take place."

Best place to check is roadworks.org if you ever think there may be 4G work going on in your area.

This is the same info it gave when the mast closest to my house had work. Mast went 4G the next day after the poll swap.

lightspeed2398 · 27-05-2015, 22:13

On their website just noticed that Three are running a "furry revolution" promotion on their website. It seems to be tied to big brother so I guess it won't be much. Just wondering if anyone knows anything?

enapace · 27-05-2015, 22:38

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Originally Posted by clewsy

Well know o2/VF are doing 4g work soon in Crewe. Not sure on 3.

My text today was some bazzare survey they wanted me to complete and offered me some free mins as well for it.

The work has already begun on outskirts of Crewe I was in the Village of Hough a week or so ago and the 3G on Vodafone is far better than it used to be so clearly starting to use 3G900 there can't imagine 4G800 is far behind.

jaffboy151 · 27-05-2015, 22:58

Drove to Nantwich Today on the A51 and my Vodafone phone (selected to 3g & 4g only) managed to keep a 3g signal all the way, which wasn't there last month so somethings been turned on somewhere, no idea what the speed was as I've got no credit at the moment, but whatever it is its better then what I get on the along that route which is big areas log no signal at all, covered well by Orange masts but let's not go there on that one, the site in question that three texted me about is a jointly used site with many other operators by the looks of things so it might be one of those causing the disruption, I very much doubt three are doing anything..

lightspeed2398 · 27-05-2015, 23:11

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Originally Posted by lightspeed2398

On their website just noticed that Three are running a "furry revolution" promotion on their website. It seems to be tied to big brother so I guess it won't be much. Just wondering if anyone knows anything?

Edit: Just noticed this above. Sorry all.

Mark in Essex · 28-05-2015, 08:18

I've noticed that there does not seem to have been any 4G reception in the North of Harlow for the last couple of days so I'm not sure if it's an outage or if they are upgrading those sites/any other sites?

AdamMJones_ · 28-05-2015, 10:01

I was at Wembley over the weekend for the play-off final.

I was surprised to see the difference between 3 and EE (obviously EE sponsor the stadium...). I was unable to do anything on 3, whereas EE phones were able to stream youtube etc. I had a mix of 3G and 4G but it didn't make the slightest difference.

I thought 3 would add extra capacity there to cope with EE's push being so high!

Continued here: Three 4G Discussion Thread (Part 2)

22-05-2015, 20:37	#11951
Redcoat Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The wilds of West Tyrone Posts: 2,122	Quote: Originally Posted by gardensleeper Reminds me of the T-Mobile 2g rollout circa 2000 - didn't they forget all about Northern Ireland? They "launched" in NI in 2002, though they did have an unofficial presence in Belfast before that.

22-05-2015, 22:32	#11952
Stereo Steve Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,378	Quote: Originally Posted by jaffboy151 At that distance you might actually be able to get some three 4g indoor coverage, I've no reference to go on but the power seems much lower for the 800mhz then say the 2100 or 1800, hard to work out I guess but I wonder what the coverage would be at this strength, still greater then the 21st 3g? Or equal? As I say I've no reference but if it's this power the equal the 3g footprint it sort of shoots the advantage of 800mhz in both feet, if it's to somehow stop the mast reaching out too far and messing up reception for other masts on the same frequency like dad's single frequency network then I'd understand.. But isn't that just because if your phone (and remember most folk are not techy) picks up a nice 800 signal, it will hook up to it and then you have no voice. For 3, 800 can't be reaching further than 2100 or it will screw everything up. Similar problem for all networks in the short term. A conundrum. Option is to get VoLTE working and only allow VoLTE devices to hook up to 800 in some way. Not sure how they would do that.

22-05-2015, 22:47	#11953
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	800 is being launched in conjunction with VoLTE, but it's not immediately clear how owners of phones without 800 support (including the recently launched Honor 6 Plus) will be able to use it. Or indeed the many SIM only users with devices not supplied by Three and potentially without any chance of an update to enable VoLTE. Will 800 be limited only to devices using VoLTE or mobile broadband devices that don't offer voice, or will - for the first time - Three users potentially get a data-only service because 800 has now gone way beyond the 1800/2100 coverage? I'd gladly lose 3G and voice, having data only, even now - and, as I've said before, wish phones had been set up to show separate voice and data coverage, just like we have Wi-Fi and mobile signal meters.

23-05-2015, 00:12	#11954
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Those Watts figures can't be antenna output power for a start. I mean a handset only puts out 1 watt max so there's no point. Not sure what they are but probably some kind of power consumption of the kit in the cabs. 1800 is not only 4G but 2G as well which may explain why that's the highest figure. Notice how both 800 and 2600 are 80 watts. Why would 2600 have to be lower if it was antenna output power. Jon & Steve, 800 WILL have to be restricted to VoLTE and data devices otherwise there is no point rolling it out. RAN Man has stated that this can easily be done using the HLR/HSS by blocking all handset IMEIs that may well have 800 but can't do VoLTE such as the iPhone 5c and 5s. 800 could then be output at full power. I'm probably talking bollocks but how the hell else are they going to do it?

23-05-2015, 08:18	#11955
jaffboy151 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Woore, Cheshire/Shropshire Posts: 1,675	Is there any way three might get round this for none volte subscribers who have an 800mhz phone like my S4 & Note 3 by using the in touch app? Also is it my understanding that if I buy a sim only iPhone 6 or a S6 from Amazon or eBay and not from three then I still cannot use volte and therefore the 800mhz? If so then there has been quite a bit of investment in a technology that will for a few years serve very few., and by the time it becomes the norm might get superseded by the next gen tech anyway? Apart from three, no other network face this problem to quite the same extent does it.

23-05-2015, 08:43	#11956
wb9999 Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 139	I can only get Three data at present (no voice). The Three 4G signal is pretty good indoors on 1800, but the 3G is atrocious and only available outdoors. They don't seem to be too bothered about it. I think too much emphasis is being placed on the idea that networks are rolling out 4G just to the extent of 3G signal, but my experience shows different. I posted on the EE thread that there are 3 EE transmitters near me broadcasting 2G and 4G, but no 3G and the 3G from nearby transmitters is patchy and sometimes non-existant.

23-05-2015, 08:53	#11957
Thine Wonk Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 14,577	Quote: Originally Posted by wb9999 I can only get Three data at present (no voice). The Three 4G signal is pretty good indoors on 1800, but the 3G is atrocious and only available outdoors. They don't seem to be too bothered about it. I think too much emphasis is being placed on the idea that networks are rolling out 4G just to the extent of 3G signal, but my experience shows different. I posted on the EE thread that there are 3 EE transmitters near me broadcasting 2G and 4G, but no 3G and the 3G from nearby transmitters is patchy and sometimes non-existant. In 6 months they'll be VoLTE though right? You are in an unusual situation and probably should have checked you had 3g coverage before choosing the network as before 4G you wouldn't have got any service. You might be able to get a signal box if you're on a contract, I have no idea if they still issue those, if you have WiFi at home there's Three in Touch.

23-05-2015, 09:03	#11958
wb9999 Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 139	Quote: Originally Posted by Thine Wonk In 6 months they'll be VoLTE though right? You are in an unusual situation and probably should have checked you had 3g coverage before choosing the network as before 4G you wouldn't have got any service. You might be able to get a signal box if you're on a contract, I have no idea if they still issue those, if you have WiFi at home there's Three in Touch. Thanks. That wasn't my point though it wasn't a complaint, as my main sim is EE and there is excellent 4G coverage here so I'm a happy bunny. The point was about the discussion regarding limiting 4G to 3G areas only for those who would have non-VOLTE capable phones on 800MHz.

23-05-2015, 10:14	#11959
Paul_P Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 263	Quote: Originally Posted by InfamousTeal Just while I'm here I thought I'd remind everyone that while it looks like Three's 4G rollout "isn't great" in England etc, take a look at Northern Ireland on the coverage checker! That's right, still not one 4G mast :') I'm aware they're "trying", but come on, we're not some remote settlement, EE have had 4G in even small towns here for about a year, if not more! And the Three shops are shamelessly hawking contracts on the back of 4g, when I took out my present contract, it was to be "in a few months" That contract is up in a month and they're still saying it'll be here "shortly" They still have big stickers in their windows saying "4G It's here" which is true enough, just not on their network. It doesn't bother me as 3g does everything I need, but if you were signing up on the basis of 4G, you'd have every right to be annoyed. The one thing they have going for them is that the 3G is good out in rural Co. Down.

23-05-2015, 13:18	#11960
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by jaffboy151 Also is it my understanding that if I buy a sim only iPhone 6 or a S6 from Amazon or eBay and not from three then I still cannot use volte and therefore the 800mhz? Not true for the iPhone, but unfortunately true for the Samsung unless you can flash the network branded firmware into the phone (which can invalidate your warranty).

24-05-2015, 09:03	#11961
Zee_Bukhari Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,319	how damn stupid Microsoft introduced VoLTE in Windows Phone update 1, I like to use unbranded devices so why should we have to have network firmware to use a service. They should be able to push settings out for ALL devices to support this.

24-05-2015, 10:08	#11962
Zee_Bukhari Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,319	anyway, another mast surrounding my street looks to go 4G in the next few days, work is planned from 26th till 1st June. Poll swap again. That's what happened to the mast closest to my house and the next day it was broadcasting 3 4G. Also another one between 31st July and 2nd June. Looks like they are beginning to step up their game, in my area at least.

26-05-2015, 21:31	#11963
jaffboy151 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Woore, Cheshire/Shropshire Posts: 1,675	This is a 1st for three at least for me anyway.. Got a text today which said: Hello. There is planned maintenance in the Crewe CW1 3HT area this week. If your service is affected, you can get updates here bit.ly/1L43qYP So what's this likely to be about then? And what makes it different from the rest of the time I have no signal from three then, and what makes them think this mast will have any impact on my coverage? It's near me but still about 5-8 miles away, whereas my nearest mast is half a mile away..

26-05-2015, 21:38	#11964
lightspeed2398 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,325	It's probably just a general text to make sure that any one in the area is aware of the potential outage. It could be 4g upgrades for Three, or if the mast is shared with other networks they could be doing maintenance.

26-05-2015, 21:43	#11965
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	"A revolution is coming to Three...and it's fury..."

26-05-2015, 22:01	#11966
iTech Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 261	Quote: Originally Posted by Gigabit "A revolution is coming to Three...and it's fury..." It had better be good (network) and nothing to do with those bl**dy horses.....I'm getting really tired of the slow coverage expansion and speeds I am getting in some of my commonly used locations (East Croydon station - just over 1 meg on 4G). The network is going from hero (as it was with 3G to zero).

26-05-2015, 22:16	#11967
clewsy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Midlands Posts: 2,860	Quote: Originally Posted by jaffboy151 This is a 1st for three at least for me anyway.. Got a text today which said: Hello. There is planned maintenance in the Crewe CW1 3HT area this week. If your service is affected, you can get updates here bit.ly/1L43qYP So what's this likely to be about then? And what makes it different from the rest of the time I have no signal from three then, and what makes them think this mast will have any impact on my coverage? It's near me but still about 5-8 miles away, whereas my nearest mast is half a mile away.. Well know o2/VF are doing 4g work soon in Crewe. Not sure on 3. My text today was some bazzare survey they wanted me to complete and offered me some free mins as well for it.

27-05-2015, 02:29	#11968
Zee_Bukhari Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,319	When you check the 3 service status page, and there is worth in your area, it may just give 1 day, but if you check roadworks.org and click on the phone sign were you know a mast is, if it says T-Mobile is doing worth there it may well say a coupe of days, it'll likely be 3 upgrading the mast for 4G, especially when It states a poll change.

27-05-2015, 02:34	#11969
Zee_Bukhari Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,319	When you check the 3 service status page, and there is work in your area, it may just give 1 day, but if you check roadworks.org and click on the phone sign were you know a mast is, if it says T-Mobile is doing work there it may well say a coupe of days, it'll likely be 3 upgrading the mast for 4G, especially when It states a poll change. Three coverage checker says work is to be done on a mast on 28th May 2015 on a mast on the other end of my road, although roadworks,org stated 26th May till 1st June. This what it says, "HIAB WORKS- Hiab to be placed on the footway to conduct a pole swap. 1.2m of the footway to left for pedestrians." "CIVILS WORKS- Technicians to work on the cabinets of the telecoms mast. Minor Excavation works to take place." Best place to check is roadworks.org if you ever think there may be 4G work going on in your area. This is the same info it gave when the mast closest to my house had work. Mast went 4G the next day after the poll swap.

27-05-2015, 22:13	#11970
lightspeed2398 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,325	On their website just noticed that Three are running a "furry revolution" promotion on their website. It seems to be tied to big brother so I guess it won't be much. Just wondering if anyone knows anything?

27-05-2015, 22:38	#11971
enapace Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4,249	Quote: Originally Posted by clewsy Well know o2/VF are doing 4g work soon in Crewe. Not sure on 3. My text today was some bazzare survey they wanted me to complete and offered me some free mins as well for it. The work has already begun on outskirts of Crewe I was in the Village of Hough a week or so ago and the 3G on Vodafone is far better than it used to be so clearly starting to use 3G900 there can't imagine 4G800 is far behind.

27-05-2015, 22:58	#11972
jaffboy151 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Woore, Cheshire/Shropshire Posts: 1,675	Drove to Nantwich Today on the A51 and my Vodafone phone (selected to 3g & 4g only) managed to keep a 3g signal all the way, which wasn't there last month so somethings been turned on somewhere, no idea what the speed was as I've got no credit at the moment, but whatever it is its better then what I get on the along that route which is big areas log no signal at all, covered well by Orange masts but let's not go there on that one, the site in question that three texted me about is a jointly used site with many other operators by the looks of things so it might be one of those causing the disruption, I very much doubt three are doing anything..

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27-05-2015, 23:11	#11973
lightspeed2398 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,325	Quote: Originally Posted by lightspeed2398 On their website just noticed that Three are running a "furry revolution" promotion on their website. It seems to be tied to big brother so I guess it won't be much. Just wondering if anyone knows anything? Edit: Just noticed this above. Sorry all.

28-05-2015, 08:18	#11974
Mark in Essex Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,644	I've noticed that there does not seem to have been any 4G reception in the North of Harlow for the last couple of days so I'm not sure if it's an outage or if they are upgrading those sites/any other sites?

28-05-2015, 10:01	#11975
AdamMJones_ Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 63	I was at Wembley over the weekend for the play-off final. I was surprised to see the difference between 3 and EE (obviously EE sponsor the stadium...). I was unable to do anything on 3, whereas EE phones were able to stream youtube etc. I had a mix of 3G and 4G but it didn't make the slightest difference. I thought 3 would add extra capacity there to cope with EE's push being so high! Continued here: Three 4G Discussion Thread (Part 2)