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Old 08-11-2013, 22:19
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It's only forbidden for the person testing it. YOU didn't sign-up to any agreement with VuTV did you, so what can they do?
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Old 08-11-2013, 22:19
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Having read a few posts here, it has left me wondering, is it taboo/forbidden to chat about VuTV? My TV isn't compatible, but a neighbour has it on free trial and I spent a few hours with it. Happy to give a personal assessment if it's allowed.
Feel free to post anything. You are not part of the trial so not bound by any NDA's that certain forum members have a bee in their bonnet about (you know who you are )

None of my STB / TVs are compatible at any rate.
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Old 08-11-2013, 22:52
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Oh, OK. Thanks EG.

Like I said, a neighbour has this. He got it yesterday. I think he was one of the first, so he was bragging about it. Popped in to have a look. 24 hours in and he's not that impressed. I soon saw why. Without a major re-think, VuTV is going nowhere.

The service is clunky. Channel switching (the up and down buttons on your TV's remote) takes too long and the now/next TV guide (green button) is just not good enough to offer paying customers. We had that with the first Freeview boxes well over a decade ago. We have all moved on and we all expect much more. The biggest let-down isn't the dubious picture quality (my neighbour has the same FTTC 'up to 80megs' service as I do and I assumed a lot of VuTV would be in HD). By far the biggest let-down is the massive lack of watchable content. Maybe things will improve during the trial period and before VuTv launches properly. If it doesn't, VuTv is toast.

Strip out the kids channels - none of which interest me because I have no kids - and what are you left with? Lifetime is awful and it isn't helped by offering Storage Wars as part of peak-time viewing (8.30pm) or that History was showing exactly the same show at the same time. H2 offers the usual low-quality 'whatiffery' in the form of programmes like 'What if the Nazis had won WW2' 'What if God was an alien' 'What happens after death'. So, what about Comedy Central? The American version may be watchable, but the UK version brings you....err....wall-to-wall episodes of Friends? At peak-time? Come on! CI (Crime and Investigation Network) has police and FBI/Real life CSI-type shows we've all seen before on free-to-air channels. MTV? God, no. Ask someone else to review MTV. That leaves you with....err.....CNN. Why would any company think offering CNN was a selling point to more than a handful of news anoraks when there are much better news channels available for free - BBC News and Al Jazeera are just two. CNN may have been a name to reckon with in the 1980s, but not any more.

If Sky sorts out its content availability for its 4.99 (intro price) TV streaming service on the 9.99 NowTv box (Sky 1 and a host of other TV channels), VuTv is dead in the water. Its content simply is not worth spending any money on unless you have kids and are quite content to let them be bombarded with pester ads in the breaks (I did take a look)..
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Old 08-11-2013, 23:33
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Oh, OK. Thanks EG.

Like I said, a neighbour has this. He got it yesterday. I think he was one of the first, so he was bragging about it. Popped in to have a look. 24 hours in and he's not that impressed. I soon saw why. Without a major re-think, VuTV is going nowhere.

The service is clunky. Channel switching (the up and down buttons on your TV's remote) takes too long and the now/next TV guide (green button) is just not good enough to offer paying customers. We had that with the first Freeview boxes well over a decade ago. We have all moved on and we all expect much more. The biggest let-down isn't the dubious picture quality (my neighbour has the same FTTC 'up to 80megs' service as I do and I assumed a lot of VuTV would be in HD). By far the biggest let-down is the massive lack of watchable content. Maybe things will improve during the trial period and before VuTv launches properly. If it doesn't, VuTv is toast.

Strip out the kids channels - none of which interest me because I have no kids - and what are you left with? Lifetime is awful and it isn't helped by offering Storage Wars as part of peak-time viewing (8.30pm) or that History was showing exactly the same show at the same time. H2 offers the usual low-quality 'whatiffery' in the form of programmes like 'What if the Nazis had won WW2' 'What if God was an alien' 'What happens after death'. So, what about Comedy Central? The American version may be watchable, but the UK version brings you....err....wall-to-wall episodes of Friends? At peak-time? Come on! CI (Crime and Investigation Network) has police and FBI/Real life CSI-type shows we've all seen before on free-to-air channels. MTV? God, no. Ask someone else to review MTV. That leaves you with....err.....CNN. Why would any company think offering CNN was a selling point to more than a handful of news anoraks when there are much better news channels available for free - BBC News and Al Jazeera are just two. CNN may have been a name to reckon with in the 1980s, but not any more.

If Sky sorts out its content availability for its 4.99 (intro price) TV streaming service on the 9.99 NowTv box (Sky 1 and a host of other TV channels), VuTv is dead in the water. Its content simply is not worth spending any money on unless you have kids and are quite content to let them be bombarded with pester ads in the breaks (I did take a look)..

Thanks for the interesting review

Sounds like they have some work to do before launch. Im contemplating NowTV but had hoped my equipment would work with VuTv.
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Old 08-11-2013, 23:47
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Ultimately, this is type of solution that TUTV could have used to sustain their service. But they didn't - you've got to ask why.

They had agreements in place with broadcasters for content, a relationship with the transmission provider and an understanding of the market - yet they still chose to pull the plug on their entertainment service after the sports channels had been removed.

The plan just didn't work without premium content.

Ultimately, the delivery of the channels outside of the standard EPG means they're harder to find and easier to forget. After all, you don't go looking down the EPG looking for place holders, you look for channels and programmes.

Unless they can challenge the DTG Group to open up the IP channel allocated range to include non-ISPs, I think they'll struggle.

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Old 09-11-2013, 01:19
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Thanks for the interesting review

Im contemplating NowTV but had hoped my equipment would work with VuTv.

I got NOWTV when it first started offering the 10 boxes. It had a free one-month trial for the Movies service. While they started really quickly and were in excellent quality I thought the choice was really dull. When you scroll through page after page and find nothing of interest, you soon give up and don't bother going back.

The new TV package (there's more news on it elsewhere) looks a better bet, but Sky has to negotiate separate rights for the streaming service and until it does its best content - Simpsons, Modern Family and so on - is not available on the streaming service. There's also an in-built personal resistance to lining the vile Murdoch clan's pockets.

But the NOW box is handy to have, EG, especially if you have a wi-fi router. I can record as much TV as I like put it into a dedicated folder and watch it at my leisure on any one of three TVs with a NOW box attached to it. Best 30 I've spent in a long time. I knew little to nothing about wi-fi streaming until the end of July when the first NOW box arrived and I had to learn very quickly indeed. Now, I wouldn't be without it.
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Old 09-11-2013, 01:26
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The plan just didn't work without premium content.
That's why I think VuTv is a non-starter, Ross. Unless it takes a long hard look at the content it's offering, it will fail. For me, there is not a single 'must-have' channel in Vu's line-up.
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Old 16-11-2013, 00:47
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Why bother as long as you have broadband and can attach your tv to internet and stream internet through it you can go to certain websites and watch all these and more channels free if you want.
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Old 17-11-2013, 19:50
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Why bother as long as you have broadband and can attach your tv to internet and stream internet through it you can go to certain websites and watch all these and more channels free if you want.
Had a look to see if things had changed since the last time I looked. Nope. Half or quarter-screen image in 4:3 and horrible low-res quality? Most streams not working no matter how many times you try? No thanks.
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Old 20-11-2013, 09:57
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If they had the Two British Eurosport channels and the Two TCM channels along with Sony Movies then they could tick more of the boxes.
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Old 22-11-2013, 07:14
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MrMadras, would you describe it as watchable or is it just too poor to enjoy? (Picture quality that is)
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Old 22-11-2013, 18:17
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Freeview on its own doesn't really interest me but if they were to launch on other devices, such as ipad, i would probably signup if it is netflix type pricing.
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Old 23-11-2013, 01:56
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MrMadras, would you describe it as watchable or is it just too poor to enjoy? (Picture quality that is)
I was over at my neighbour's place earlier tonight. He says the picture quality has come on a lot in a short time. It definitely looked much better. Maybe VuTV had a lot of complaints coming in. Depending on content, it's now easily on a par with Freeview SD. Some channels look much crisper than SD. Others don't.
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Old 28-11-2013, 09:45
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VuTV officially launches at 12noon. The initial subscription is 6.99 a month, initially for the channels that were available during the trial period. Further channels are planned for 2014. They've kindly sent me some screenshots for my website, which I'll be putting up shortly.
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Old 28-11-2013, 12:09
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Their website is currently offering a 14 day free trial.
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Old 28-11-2013, 15:12
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Pretty Pants Device Support so Far. My Philips 8530 (Rebadged Sagemcom RTi95) is not supported but is perfectly IPTV capable and No Humax Support yet either.
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Old 28-11-2013, 15:31
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Very bizarre my freeviewHD set top box isn't compatible with their service yet I can receive all other IPTV services.
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Old 28-11-2013, 16:14
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Same here, I just installed latest firmware from 30th of October so it's not like my box gets no support. Every Complaint they have had they just send a PR Parrot response about how great Samsung Smart TV's are sigh...
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Old 28-11-2013, 17:56
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I just don't get this. 5 years ago, maybe. But in the world of Netflix, LoveFilm and NowTV as well as Rokus and Smart TVs, why would I choose VuTV? Especially given that it's also coming through the Internet and has some pretty specific hardware requirements.

For kids' channels, a news channel that's FTA on DSat (and not very good anyway) and a few odd others.

Unless the lineup or price change substantially, I don't see this getting significant uptake.
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Old 28-11-2013, 18:55
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Their canned responses on Twitter saying the same things over and over from a script are a Day One PR disaster.
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Old 28-11-2013, 20:21
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The biggest joke of them all is that it's not available on Youview. But I don't blame VuTV for that, I blame Youview entirely.

I think consumers are going to struggle to take VuTV seriously unless its lineup improves - only three new entertainment channels (and MTV barely qualifies anyway with its dubious output) seems quite low for such a service - and the number of devices it supports increases dramatically.

Shame because I do see the potential in a service like this and I would subscribe if they met my above two criteria.
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Old 28-11-2013, 20:40
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I replied earlier in this thread that my 2013 LG Smart TV was not able of receiving VuTV according to the screen info.

However, having now seen the channels being offered, there is not a single one that I would wish to watch, so it's no loss to me.

Unless the selection of channels improves drastically, with less dross, then the venture will be a five minute wonder.
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Old 30-11-2013, 11:37
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I don't think they will ever get SKY channels or BT Sport, but i would like to see the other movie channels (Sony, TCM, MGM etc) and Discovery and FOX channels. I'm waiting to see what these other devices are that are coming; i'm hoping its an iOS app as i would pay for that. I've got NowTV but the live streaming does not work yet in the app.
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:22
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beyond this forum talk, its hard to see how a service which requires mandatory connection to the internet on a platform where its relatively few devices are actually connected by its users, which isn't marketed through the mass channels (currently) and which is accessed through an area of the EPG which users rarely venture will be a success. Usually, the MHEG-IC implementation of most hardware is clunky at best based on my experience and Its not as you can pause/record/rewind these channels as well. The channel lineup is not exactly premium where Sky Sports/Movies & BT Sport are considered premium, these channels are basic pay TV at best.

Something like this would certainly work on say the non BT/TalkTalk YouView boxes which cannot be used to access IPTV channels as a way to offer increased choice. As of a recent update IPTV channels can be shown in the guide and users have the ability to pause/record/rewind - if VUTV could take advantage of this some how it would be better for all concerned especially as (it appears that more) youview customers connect their equipment to the internet to take advantage of catch-up TV services.
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Old 15-01-2014, 18:11
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Out of interest, does anyone know how VuTV is doing? Has it published any take-up numbers? I don't know anyone who has it. My neighbour's free trial has come to an end and he told me he hasn't taken a paid sub. That's not a good sign. He watches more TV than anyone else I know and doesn't much mind how poor the programmes are.
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