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This is a joke, surely. You sound like a conspiracy theorist.
And I'm not sure what you gain by promoting something as a conspiracy theory. What is the conspiracy as I do not see one? |
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We don't know how many found it or made use of it.
Obviously it came up in conversations when found to be finally fixed. Considering it is in OS/X too, this Core Text 'bug' could have been live for a good 7 years now. in the event that there was a spike in fraud amongst iPad owners do you really think we would not have heard about it? criminals surely would use it to the max knowing that the plug would eventually be pulled |
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Well, I think the 'fun bug' is a joke. We are well used to positivity on all things Apple.
And I'm not sure what you gain by promoting something as a conspiracy theory. What is the conspiracy as I do not see one? that makes no sense. |
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you mean it is an intentional joke on apple's behalf?that makes no sense.
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A bit of a laugh at Apple's expense maybe but its far more serious than that.
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Yeah, really amusing. You'll say it's just because I'm an iPhone user and therefore don't have a sense of humour. But if this were about Android or Windows Phone or whatever, I wouldn't even think of sending something to another person with the deliberate intention of causing their apps to crash. It's pretty pathetic, in my view.
But then i have a good sense of humour
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Must just be me but it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. In fact i would think i quite funny if it happened on Android.
But then i have a good sense of humour ![]() |
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....but I'm not sure if anyone is taking you seriously
![]() I'm 50/50 whether it was planted there purposely for the security services or it is very old historic unicode translation just accidentally gone wrong. It is a bug that is extremely easy to date so a little truth may come out. |
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You'd think it was funny if someone sent you a text with the deliberate intention of putting your messages app in a constant crashing loop? Strange sense of humour.
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Well, you do take it seriously not taking me seriously.
I'm 50/50 whether it was planted there purposely for the security services or it is very old historic unicode translation just accidentally gone wrong. It is a bug that is extremely easy to date so a little truth may come out. It's a bug. A simple bug that Apple knew about but did nothing about oddly. But it's not a backdoor left open for any security services! |
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But it's not a backdoor left open for any security services!
Let me know how you calculate that to be true. |
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Well, it is possible that in translating the Arabic Unicode the decision simply went accidentally wrong
Let me know how you calculate that to be true. |
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No, not strange. I'm just not a complete bore....
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But Alan, what's your basis for thinking it's anything to do with the security services?
If it wasn't for the fact that they were all Arabic Unicode characters, I'd have been certain it was just another bug. |
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Why said that? I have plenty of times said I do not know the truth. There are only possibilities.
If it wasn't for the fact that they were all Arabic Unicode characters, I'd have been certain it was just another bug. |
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Why said that? I have plenty of times said I do not know the truth. There are only possibilities.
If it wasn't for the fact that they were all Arabic Unicode characters, I'd have been certain it was just another bug. |
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... even though it's been pointed out to you many times by various people that it doesn't work like that.
I put my thoughts down on how I think things work, which developed into me understanding things better. Just read this thread to see where comments go well astray. A gentle bug or not, I personally would not choose to become a guinea pig for it Personally I enjoy being corrected on things. How it works is fascinating. |
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Considering it is in OS/X too, this Core Text 'bug' could have been live for a good 7 years now.
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If the text were posted in Unicode (or hex etc), would it still crash things?
Using a Unicode convertor such as http://mylanguages.org/converter.php results in سمَ.... or is it the translation process that effs up CoreText? *** Dear mods, I have deleted 90% of the string, if it affects anything then that is a new bug that has been discovered and definitely not my fault*** EDIT_____ ok, so if I post in Unicode the forum translates it automatically... guess I should have posted with code tags Code:
سمَـ |
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Doesn't seem to affect the older versions of OS X just the current Mountain Lion. The Mavericks beta seems fine too.
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More codes are being discovered http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2013...-from-a-crash/
the shorter codes might be usable as a phone WiFi hotspot ssid |
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Seems Arabic was added in OS X Lion so maybe Mountain Lion was meant to remove the niggles.
Let's hope they fix this known problem soon.
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A small mystery is that a Russian guy tweeted it all back in February so it it is amazing it never went viral back then. I guess he had been studying those new Core Text modules.
"No-one has yet come up with a way to exploit these crashes for code execution, at least as far as I am aware" The easy part is getting an OS to cause the crash but a fair people in Russia who saw it would have been trying to inject code for 6 months now. |
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The strings a total gibberish even in Arabic apparently. Looks like cock-up rather then any conspiracy.
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Would have been a far bigger cock up if the string was "three blind mice"
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