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Old 30-08-2013, 20:02
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I read with utter amazement that most of you seem to think Vanessa is the innocent victim in the Rhona drug borefest.

The innocent VICTIMS are Paddy and Leo, Paddy has been betrayed and lied to and Leo has to suffer the dire Maurel thingys.

Yes Rhona is to blame for being weak but imho Vanessa is responsible for feeding her habit and preying on her and her and Paddy. She deliberately set out to snare Rhona, she wouldn't leave the house and even trashed the rental that she begrudgingly had from that Macey female, (cant think of her name).

She is the guilty party in my eyes.
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Old 30-08-2013, 20:06
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I read with utter amazement that most of you seem to think Vanessa is the innocent victim in the Rhona drug borefest.

The innocent VICTIMS are Paddy and Leo, Paddy has been betrayed and lied to and Leo has to suffer the dire Maurel thingys.

Yes Rhona is to blame for being weak but imho Vanessa is responsible for feeding her habit and preying on her and her and Paddy. She deliberately set out to snare Rhona, she wouldn't leave the house and even trashed the rental that she begrudgingly had from that Macey female, (cant think of her name).

She is the guilty party in my eyes.
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Why does Vanessa think that Paddy would want to keep living with her? Regardless of the drug drama, Vanessa's tried to break his marriage. As far as I am concerned, it's a deal-breaker.
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Old 30-08-2013, 20:44
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I read with utter amazement that most of you seem to think Vanessa is the innocent victim in the Rhona drug borefest.

The innocent VICTIMS are Paddy and Leo, Paddy has been betrayed and lied to and Leo has to suffer the dire Maurel thingys.

Yes Rhona is to blame for being weak but imho Vanessa is responsible for feeding her habit and preying on her and her and Paddy. She deliberately set out to snare Rhona, she wouldn't leave the house and even trashed the rental that she begrudgingly had from that Macey female, (cant think of her name).

She is the guilty party in my eyes.
There is no 'guilty party', that's the whole point of the story I think - to demonstrate how these things can happen to anyone despite an apparently successful life, job, marriage, friendships etc. It would be pointless if it was all one person's fault and unrealistic as well.

There is blame on all sides. Rhona didn't stop it when she actually could have done, Vanessa against her better judgement didn't make it known to Paddy / get professional help earlier, and Paddy didn't have a clue anything was wrong until about two days ago

Also re snaring Rhona we saw her struggling with her feelings when she realised them (a good two months after radiatorgate) - even if she was developing or masking feelings for Rhona then, she herself wasn't even aware of them to the extent that she would plot and begin ingratiating herself with the couple in an evil plot to trap Rhona .

I interpreted it actually as her not wanting to be left out and feeling jealous of their closeness. I.E her feelings beginning to develop but at this stage her wanting her friend to prioritise her above her husband. I didn't think it was malicious either as such... slightly devious and mischevious maybe I also thought that the purpose of it was to show that she has that side to her as well - as no character immune from deception for their own ends would last 5 minutes in soap! More them developing her and creating intrigue, I felt.
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Old 30-08-2013, 20:54
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Paddy needs a proper kicking.
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Old 30-08-2013, 21:10
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Beating Paddy would be akin to beating a defenceless kitten mo, it ain't gonna make you feel very good.

He'd just curl up in a ball & scream.

You'd be better off giving Maurel the bloody good thrashing they deserve mate.

In fact, I'll join you ...
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Old 30-08-2013, 21:31
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Why does Vanessa think that Paddy would want to keep living with her? Regardless of the drug drama, Vanessa's tried to break his marriage. As far as I am concerned, it's a deal-breaker.
Exactly! Even without all the drug business this is more than a good enough reason for him to turf her out. After all he would it it was another bloke after his wife so why would she get special treatment?
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Old 30-08-2013, 21:35
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Paddy needs a proper kicking.
Beating Paddy would be akin to beating a defenceless kitten mo, it ain't gonna make you feel very good.

He'd just curl up in a ball & scream.

You'd be better off giving Maurel the bloody good thrashing they deserve mate.

In fact, I'll join you ...
Genius.

Can i hold him down for you? lol
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Old 30-08-2013, 21:37
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Vanessa is a great character... can't think of any real contribution Paddy has made to the show in the last year
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Old 30-08-2013, 22:03
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In fact Paddy did throw out Brett the Vet, only for giving Rhona a wee cuddle - not entirely uninvited. Pity he hadn't got rid of Vanessa earlier.
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Old 30-08-2013, 22:04
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Now That Vanessa is living with Moria. I wonder how long it will take for Adam to try it on with her. We all know he like older women
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Old 31-08-2013, 01:18
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I feel like in some ways Paddy is taking his anger out on Vanessa because he knows deep down that Rhona chose to confide in her and risk their marriage rather than let him help her. However, Vanessa didn't make the right choices by allowing her to get away with stealing the drugs from the vets and letting Pearl take the blame when she should have made Rhona come clean.
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Old 31-08-2013, 01:23
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Now That Vanessa is living with Moria. I wonder how long it will take for Adam to try it on with her. We all know he like older women
He tried it on today, but Vanessa barely registered it because she loves Rhona!
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Old 31-08-2013, 01:27
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I was quite surprised that she seemed to think she still had a home with Paddy and Rhona. She knows that Rhona doesn't love her, and that Paddy is bound to be angry, not just for being 'the other woman' (even though she wasn't really), but for supplying the pills. Added to that, it would be extremely awkward for Rhona to have her around the house, and right now she needs to focus on regaining her health, and attempting to repair her marriage. Vanessa would be far better keeping as much distance as she realistically can, even if it is heartbreaking for her.
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Old 31-08-2013, 01:37
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I was quite surprised that she seemed to think she still had a home with Paddy and Rhona. She knows that Rhona doesn't love her, and that Paddy is bound to be angry, not just for being 'the other woman' (even though she wasn't really), but for supplying the pills. Added to that, it would be extremely awkward for Rhona to have her around the house, and right now she needs to focus on regaining her health, and attempting to repair her marriage. Vanessa would be far better keeping as much distance as she realistically can, even if it is heartbreaking for her.
BIB: Hell, Rhona still thought that Vanessa still had a home with them! The first scene at the hospital Rhona says it good thing that Vanessa is living with them to help take care of the business. And then Paddy tersely set her straight and then Rhona dropped it.....It was an odd exchange?
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Old 31-08-2013, 01:42
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BIB: Hell, Rhona still thought that Vanessa still had a home with them! The first scene at the hospital Rhona says it good thing that Vanessa is living with them to help take care of the business. And then Paddy tersely set her straight and then Rhona dropped it.....It was an odd :exchange?
Is that what she said? I couldn't quite make it out.She's maybe hoping that she can paper over the cracks, and everything can go back to the way it was before. She was still in denial about how serious her problem was before the doctor put her right. She must be feeling bad about how she's treated both Vanessa and Paddy as well - maybe she was trying to build bridges between them?
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Old 31-08-2013, 01:47
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Beating Paddy would be akin to beating a defenceless kitten mo, it ain't gonna make you feel very good.

He'd just curl up in a ball & scream.

You'd be better off giving Maurel the bloody good thrashing they deserve mate.

In fact, I'll join you ...
that shouldn't make me laugh out loud, but it does
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Old 31-08-2013, 02:06
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Is that what she said? I couldn't quite make it out.She's maybe hoping that she can paper over the cracks, and everything can go back to the way it was before. She was still in denial about how serious her problem was before the doctor put her right. She must be feeling bad about how she's treated both Vanessa and Paddy as well - maybe she was trying to build bridges between them?
Yup, thats what she said. Her little face dropped when Paddy said Nessa was out too, it was an odd look. (Zoe's acting without saying a word is amazing )

Definitely think its denial and a hell of a lot of guilt, plus maybe she misses her friend and needs her support. Just MHO
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Old 31-08-2013, 02:09
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I read with utter amazement that most of you seem to think Vanessa is the innocent victim in the Rhona drug borefest.

The innocent VICTIMS are Paddy and Leo, Paddy has been betrayed and lied to and Leo has to suffer the dire Maurel thingys.

Yes Rhona is to blame for being weak but imho Vanessa is responsible for feeding her habit and preying on her and her and Paddy. She deliberately set out to snare Rhona, she wouldn't leave the house and even trashed the rental that she begrudgingly had from that Macey female, (cant think of her name).

She is the guilty party in my eyes.
I agree 100%, I think Vanessa is vile.
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Old 31-08-2013, 02:16
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Hate Vanessa.
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Old 31-08-2013, 03:46
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Paddy is behaving like an ignorant, arrogant oaf. How Rhona could stay with that when hot Vanessa wants her is a matter of mystery; the drugs must have addled her brain.
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Old 31-08-2013, 03:55
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Paddy is behaving like an ignorant, arrogant oaf. How Rhona could stay with that when hot Vanessa wants her is a matter of mystery; the drugs must have addled her brain.
I know, right!! It's mind blowing to me and a mystery of unknown proportions?? And I'm still beyond pissed off that Paddy walked in on them during that kiss because that situation was heading upstairs for sure!! OK, OK Rhona's straight, but it's hardly a chore getting next to Vanessa, lol
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Old 31-08-2013, 07:50
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Paddy is behaving like an ignorant, arrogant oaf. How Rhona could stay with that when hot Vanessa wants her is a matter of mystery; the drugs must have addled her brain.
Just because Vanessa wants Rhona doesn't mean it's mutual. In real life wanting someone who doesn't want them is pretty common - speaking from experience here!
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Old 31-08-2013, 07:59
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Hear Hear!! So, do I. Never could stand the woman.
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Old 31-08-2013, 08:17
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Would the trolls in the thread bog off, I am not interested in wind up idiots. If you want to drool over Vanessa then there are plenty of other threads on this forum for your pleasure.
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Old 31-08-2013, 08:34
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Would the trolls in the thread bog off, I am not interested in wind up idiots. If you want to drool over Vanessa then there are plenty of other threads on this forum for your pleasure.
What the...? Just read through this thread and funnily enough I've found no 'trolls' matching this description!

Possibly because : unfortunately the word 'troll' really can't be stretched to apply to a person who, despite you being obviously and unequivocally right of course, respectfully disagrees with your opinion.

I would say, if you are going to get angry and upset that people dare to disagree with your opinions, it might be best not to start a thread.
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