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Lauren's Mum and Dad are SEX THERAPISTS !!!
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Jennyuk
03-09-2013
It gets worse her mother is pretending to be TWO different women interviewing Lauren .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnlmv0S3KOo
yorkiegal
03-09-2013
I do believe that the family are very insular and the kids have been damaged as a result. However it's been that way for so long now that I doubt Lauren could live independently from them, and to do so would be bad for her mental state. They remind me a lot of that chubby Chawner family who will do anything to get on tv and all live together in blissful ignorance of their own dsyfunctionality.
LIZALYNN
03-09-2013
It is well known that Lauren's family's businesses have all sorts of lines to it. It is obviously a close and loving family so good luck to them.
But her unusual family are not in the BB house and Lauren for once is alone so they are having to cope without her.
Those so called "experts" on BBBOTS are paid for the rubbish they spout out every night and anyone could do their job as well if they want to.
DeccaQuinne
03-09-2013
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“Lauren said both her parents are Sex Therapists - with her mum having 3 different names.

oh yes,-- I remember they bought their qualifications online.
And Lauren is looking for magazine deals after the show to help the family - nothing wrong with that, but her parents have been outed as having fake bought qualifications purporting to be something they are not, so she should talk less about them I think, or it could be detrimental to her with that documentary knocking about !!!

Mario described Lauren as a modern day Peter Pan, as Lauren said "they're are too many grown ups in the world" ”

She can't help being raised by con-artists... They've always used her & I don't think she knows any better... It doesn't help that they do genuinely love her. Breaking away from their influence would be too painful.
Scarlett Berry
03-09-2013
Originally Posted by Jennyuk:
“It gets worse her mother is pretending to be TWO different women interviewing Lauren .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnlmv0S3KOo”

Good Lord, that really is nuts.
lloys-strachan
03-09-2013
Lauren is so dependent on her parents that the thought went though my mind last night that she'll be seriously lost when they die.

Unable to cope with the real world (no friends or outside support that she has mentioned).

Unfortunately, this is a car crash waiting to happen.
Penny Crayon
03-09-2013
Originally Posted by lloys-strachan:
“Lauren is so dependent on her parents that the thought went though my mind last night that she'll be seriously lost when they die.

Unable to cope with the real world (no friends or outside support that she has mentioned).

Unfortunately, this is a car crash waiting to happen.”

It's incredibly sad isn't it?

It would seem that they have 'used' Lauren from a very early age to court publicity and keep their family in the public eye. She may well have chosen to have the surgery on her own but somehow I really doubt it.

It seems that she will be and always has who and what they sday she is.

It's quite clearly not right ...................she has been made dependent on them IMO because she's lived her life as their puppet/pay cheque.
Rose*~*
03-09-2013
Originally Posted by Jennyuk:
“Laurens mother used one of her names to say she was Laurens councillor when Lauren needs her sex change.”

This is what makes me think that the whole sex change was something her parents put into her head rather than it being little James himself who wanted it....
Betty Britain
03-09-2013
Lauren's two brothers have also had the same kind of life ..they also appear to have no or few friends ..didn't one of her brothers say it took him over 17 yrs to make friends because they were all withdrawn from school. I still believe their parents are a disgrace.they have damaged their children's lives ..
Penny Crayon
03-09-2013
Originally Posted by Betty Britain:
“Lauren's two brothers have also had the same kind of life ..they also appear to have no or few friends ..didn't one of her brothers say it took him over 17 yrs to make friends because they were all withdrawn from school. I still believe their parents are a disgrace.they have damaged their children's lives ..”

Yes - I agree.
Pootmatoot
03-09-2013
Originally Posted by Drood:
“I thought the comment "and they've got certificates to prove it" was quite telling.”



Exactly. Nobody who has completed any sort of qualification's first thought would be "And I have a certificate to prove it!".


It's a bit like the League of Gentlemen, when the police ask Tubbs if they've seen a missing hitchhiker, and her first reaction is "WE DIDN'T BURN HIM!".
erin_p
03-09-2013
Originally Posted by Jennyuk:
“It gets worse her mother is pretending to be TWO different women interviewing Lauren .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnlmv0S3KOo”

Barking mad, the whole family is barking mad!
mystic_one
03-09-2013
Sorry i don't know how to post a link but if you watch 'little lady fauntleroy - extras' on that page the film is a lot more indicative of Laurens true character imo. She is gregarious and outgoing in the pub, she is displaying absoloutely no dyspraxia symptoms, but for me the most telling part is the way she treats that poor dog....is this just a reflection of Laurens life? Lauren has been manipulated her whole life and I am afraid until her parents; particularly her mother, are not part of her life she will never be able to function autonomously in the 'real world'.
kimindex
03-09-2013
Originally Posted by lloys-strachan:
“Lauren is so dependent on her parents that the thought went though my mind last night that she'll be seriously lost when they die.

Unable to cope with the real world (no friends or outside support that she has mentioned).

Unfortunately, this is a car crash waiting to happen.”

I thought exactly the same. They are co-dependent right now but perhaps, after the grief subsides, it will be the making of her. I hope so. (I don't wish death on her parents, of course!).

They seem to be the sort of parents who are frightened of being without their children so make them ultra-dependent on them by giving them neuroses and making them feel comfortable only with them.
myviewpoint
03-09-2013
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“It's incredibly sad isn't it?

It would seem that they have 'used' Lauren from a very early age to court publicity and keep their family in the public eye. She may well have chosen to have the surgery on her own but somehow I really doubt it.

It seems that she will be and always has who and what they say she is.

It's quite clearly not right ...................she has been made dependent on them IMO because she's lived her life as their puppet/pay cheque.”

I agree entirely. Who would groom their ten year old son into becoming a con artist then make an exhibition of him on national TV? The same fame hungry parents who would have no qualms about persuading him that he needed a sex change for all the media attention that would bring to them as a family.

I sincerely hope I am wrong about this, but I wonder what 'James' would be like now if he had had properly trained therapists and counselors instead of his own parents. Maybe he would still have had a sex change and become Lauren but on the other hand he might have stayed as 'James' and be taught to come to terms with, and be comfortable with, his sexuality as a gay man, but we will never know unfortunately.
trai1912
03-09-2013
Originally Posted by Skaface:
“I wouldn't be at all surprised if Lauren's decision to have a sex-change as an adult wasn't entirely her own and that the seeds were planted in her head from a very young age by her parents. I don't know why, but I can imagine them (especially Mommie Dearest) frequently saying to the young James (as was) "Oh darling, your Daddy and I were sooooo disappointed that you wasn't born a little girl. We really longed for a daughter after your two brothers were born, but *sigh* we got you instead."

Many years ago, I had a good friend who was transgender (male to female) and it's my understanding from speaking with her that most know from an early age that they feel 'trapped' in the wrong body and desperately need to put it 'right' in order to truly be themselves. I really hope to G-d this was the case with Lauren and that my hunch in the previous paragraph is completely wrong. ”

OMG i,m thinking the same,i have a friend who as recently undergone the operation, male/female, for years now she as had to participate in lengthy counseling sessions, to prepare her for life pre op and post op, and basically to see if its what she really wants, if at any time the professional thought she wasnt ready for the transition, the operation wouldn,t of gone ahead, so i question why lauren,s own mother counseled her, and not an outsider
myviewpoint
03-09-2013
Originally Posted by trai1912:
“OMG i,m thinking the same,i have a friend who as recently undergone the operation, male/female, for years now she as had to participate in lengthy counseling sessions, to prepare her for life pre op and post op, and basically to see if its what she really wants, if at any time the professional thought she wasnt ready for the transition, the operation wouldn,t of gone ahead, so i question why lauren,s own mother counseled her, and not an outsider ”

I am also bewildered by this for two reasons. Firstly, how could the medical profession be fooled by a woman with no proper qualifications posing as a counselor to her own son . When it became obvious she had conned them all by pretending to be another woman posing as a trained counselor to James, why wasn't action taken against her? :confused.

Secondly, how could a mother put her own child through such a life changing ordeal without seeking properly trained expert advice? Even a fully trained person would want to seek other opinions I would have thought, to make absolutely sure it was the right step for their child to take.
SolarSail
03-09-2013
With regard to Lauren's gender realignment surgery and now also with regard to a mooted operation on her back, I've seen her say that she's had privately funded medical treatment because 'the NHS would take too long'

Although I can see the obvious desperation from people who feel they're living in the wrong body, or people who are in excruciating pain, bone fide and proper medical practitioners, therapists, psychologists et al stress the importance of time and effort put in to be sure that the end result is both genuinely needed and the best possible outcome for the patient.

It could be argued that Lauren's route to her change of gender, circumvented all the proper channels and one wonders why that might be?

It also worries me that for Lauren herself it is her defining feature.
CBFreak
03-09-2013
When I saw their faces I thought Lauren was a clone of her mother and her father looked like an older Martin Freeman
Pootmatoot
03-09-2013
Originally Posted by SolarSail:
“With regard to Lauren's gender realignment surgery and now also with regard to a mooted operation on her back, I've seen her say that she's had privately funded medical treatment because 'the NHS would take too long'

Although I can see the obvious desperation from people who feel they're living in the wrong body, or people who are in excruciating pain, bone fide and proper medical practitioners, therapists, psychologists et al stress the importance of time and effort put in to be sure that the end result is both genuinely needed and the best possible outcome for the patient.

It could be argued that Lauren's route to her change of gender, circumvented all the proper channels and one wonders why that might be?

It also worries me that for Lauren herself it is her defining feature.”




Also the "take too long" argument doesn't make a lot of sense when you take into account the time it's apparently taken to raise the money.

The most obvious explanation would be using some backstreet doctor that doesn't look to closing at the mother's referral letter and her qualifications to make one.
DavetheSensible
03-09-2013
Originally Posted by Jennyuk:
“Iwhat parents in there right mind would take a child to a doctor because he displayed feminine mannerisms.”

Well for a start, parents who are concerned for their child's future mental wellbeing if they continue to be trapped in a body they do not believe is their natural state?

Although I'm not sure taking your child to a doctor because he displayed feminine mannerisms is a neccessarily a good way of choosing your specialist. I'd be looking at his medical credentials, not his attitude.
Pootmatoot
03-09-2013
Originally Posted by Jennyuk:
“It gets worse her mother is pretending to be TWO different women interviewing Lauren .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnlmv0S3KOo”




"They put up a shrine to you in the square"


"Oh, how lovely".


"But after the Philip Schofield incident they had it removed"


"Oh...".
bluebottle
03-09-2013
Originally Posted by Jennyuk:
“It gets worse her mother is pretending to be TWO different women interviewing Lauren .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnlmv0S3KOo”

What a stupid interview that is ..crazy the lot of them and anyone taken in by it is equally MAD ..no wonder Lauren is crazy with that as a role model [as I have said before] Deluded detached from reality fame seekers
DavetheSensible
03-09-2013
Originally Posted by Pootmatoot:
“"They put up a shrine to you in the square"
"Oh, how lovely".
"But after the Philip Schofield incident they had it removed"
"Oh...".”

Xazou
03-09-2013
Originally Posted by Pootmatoot:
“Exactly. Nobody who has completed any sort of qualification's first thought would be "And I have a certificate to prove it!".


It's a bit like the League of Gentlemen, when the police ask Tubbs if they've seen a missing hitchhiker, and her first reaction is "WE DIDN'T BURN HIM!".”

Very much so.

But in all honesty, this is a terribly sad story. And if the theories are true, and the gender surgery was the parent's idea, that is truly horrific.
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