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TerryM22's MERGED thread of every Strictly Come Dancing thought... EVER!
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MaggieMcGee
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Mods mod, it's what they do.
We have no knowledge of what has gone off in Mod Towers
, how many requests/warnings/ultimatums gone past their deadline. If there wasn't deemed to be an issue, then nothing would have been done.

They don't bother me <anymore> in themselves, but the rule flouting is possibly something the Mods needed everyone to know where they stand on before the series proper gets underway and things veer towards the busy and tetchy.”

It's funny but I suspect one of the forum members is a mod ...

Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“To me, Terry's threads aren't that annoying. They're certainly a lot less irritating than those really "interesting" (ie pointless) polls inundating the first page: "Who should have won in 2013?", "What's your favourite 4th contestant ever?", etc”

Agree completely. 'Predict the Finishing order' FFS we've not even started. It's a sad thing if the forum contains lists and the NAT.
aggs
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“It's funny but I suspect one of the forum members is a mod ....”

Really?
In that case *rolls out shopping list of demands in manner of Disney list held up at ends by a squirrel and bluebird *

I guess the Mods are just trying to get the board neat and tidy ready for it going bonkers when the new series proper starts - and failing that, there must be plenty of mileage left in the umpteen Clifton discussion threads.
MaggieMcGee
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Really?
In that case *rolls out shopping list of demands in manner of Disney list held up at ends by a squirrel and bluebird *

I guess the Mods are just trying to get the board neat and tidy ready for it going bonkers when the new series proper starts - and failing that, there must be plenty of mileage left in the umpteen Clifton discussion threads.”

Yep really. There are a few other bonker posters who could do with being reeled in and I feel that the title of this thread, whilst funny, has a personal and venomous edge which I would not expect from a moderator who was not part of the board. There is something else I've observed and will keep to myself that led me to conclude one of the mods is a forum poster on this board.

EDIT: And I'm done with this as I do not want to risk being banned.
edy10
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“To me, Terry's threads aren't that annoying. They're certainly a lot less irritating than those really "interesting" (ie pointless) polls inundating the first page: "Who should have won in 2013?", "What's your favourite 4th contestant ever?", etc”

Exactly and I agree.
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“They don't annoy me either Vic'sMum and I'm a little concerned to see the mods act against a poster in this way, presumably at the behest of a group of fellow posters. Tweaks my sense of fairness...”

Me too

I've been here for a while now and he always posted threads like that. I noticed that since last year, they started doing that. How is that fair ? For the people complaining, I mean put him or his threads on ignore. It never bothered people before but why did people suddenly start reporting him to the mods since last year ? This almost seems " clique-y " imo.

This also defeats the point of a forum. All the threads are so different , yes even though they're created by the same person ....this is just. .....smh.
Monaogg
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“It's funny but I suspect one of the forum members is a mod ...

Agree completely. 'Predict the Finishing order' FFS we've not even started. It's a sad thing if the forum contains lists and the NAT.”

The NAT is one thread and has been going for a long time.

Anyway, this all seems somewhat off topic for what and how Terry discusses things.
Ann_Dancer
08-09-2016
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Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“To me, Terry's threads aren't that annoying. They're certainly a lot less irritating than those really "interesting" (ie pointless) polls inundating the first page: "Who should have won in 2013?", "What's your favourite 4th contestant ever?", etc”

Well said!

Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“Yep really. There are a few other bonker posters who could do with being reeled in and I feel that the title of this thread, whilst funny, has a personal and venomous edge which I would not expect from a moderator who was not part of the board. There is something else I've observed and will keep to myself that led me to conclude one of the mods is a forum poster on this board.

EDIT: And I'm done with this as I do not want to risk being banned.”

Totally agree. Surely the whole point of moderation is to police the board in a detached manner. The title of this thread is deliberately constructed to belittle and make fun of a poster.

And I too have observed a change in the nature of the moderation of this forum.
VicsMum
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“ Agree completely. 'Predict the Finishing order' FFS we've not even started.”

If there was ever a more pointless thread in the MF is "Predict the finishing order". It would only made sense if the posters a) could bet any money via Digital Spy and b) were actual bookies. If anything, it should be shoved in the games section in the attic. "Who is going to win?" is another variation of the same thing, but you don't see people complaining about these (well let's be polite and say "non intelligent") threads.

And I do have to say, even if Terry is a troll, he's the most polite troll ever. I've seen people being horrible to him and he never, ever, replied in the same manner.
DiamondDoll
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“Should we all have a thread and then we needn't interact with anyone? Seems contrary to the idea of a discussion forum and more like broadcasting to merge like this 🤔”

Originally Posted by PinkDiamond:
“Must be in the minority but I always enjoy Terry's posts.

I'll get my coat.....”

Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“To me, Terry's threads aren't that annoying. They're certainly a lot less irritating than those really "interesting" (ie pointless) polls inundating the first page: "Who should have won in 2013?", "What's your favourite 4th contestant ever?", etc”

Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“They don't annoy me either Vic'sMum and I'm a little concerned to see the mods act against a poster in this way, presumably at the behest of a group of fellow posters. Tweaks my sense of fairness...”

Originally Posted by dippydancing:
“Same here- it feels mean-spirited and a bit gangy-uppy. There are various posts and posters I don't like on DS, but I just ignore them. Live and let live, and don't sweat the small stuff.”

Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“Yep really. There are a few other bonker posters who could do with being reeled in and I feel that the title of this thread, whilst funny, has a personal and venomous edge which I would not expect from a moderator who was not part of the board. There is something else I've observed and will keep to myself that led me to conclude one of the mods is a forum poster on this board.

EDIT: And I'm done with this as I do not want to risk being banned.”

I agree with all of you.
The thing about Terry is that he is never anything other than polite and friendly and I don't like to see him/her singled out like this when others are rude and disrespectful and nothing is done about it.

I'd better shut up as maybe I'll be the one who gets booted.
Wouldn't that just be Sod's Law?
yosemitesam
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“This " merged" thread is a brilliant idea...Well done! ”

Excellent to get it sorted before the front page is around 50% threads started by one poster and then regularly bumped by that same poster. Ok, so some other threads might not be counted as to everyone's taste, but at least there is variety of thread starters and subjects in there.
Thank you mods for dealing with it all quickly this year.
Monaogg
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“I agree with all of you.
The thing about Terry is that he is never anything other than polite and friendly and I don't like to see him/her singled out like this when others are rude and disrespectful and nothing is done about it.

I'd better shut up as maybe I'll be the one who gets booted.
Wouldn't that just be Sod's Law?”

I suspect most would be less annoyed and more welcoming if Terry bothered to post in already created threads on similar subjects. Rather than creating new threads with execrable titles.
coppertop1
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by coppertop1:
“Just a reminder that we all have to follow community guidelines which include not discussing other posters.

And thank you mods 😀”

Honestly I know it's not the done thing to quote ones own posts, but why oh why is Terry suddenly immune from the community guidelines of not discussing posters?

Honestly as Aggs said, mods mod and if you have a problem with that talk to them.

To keep this thread going complaining about mods modding has to be one of the most pointless thing going, there are ways you can complain officially if you wish to do so.

I personally never read any multiple poster threads, I find it extremely annoying however that titles and activities of such thread are always on my first page. I have requested that if you have a poster on ignore then you don't see any threads started by them. That would be awfully nice mods! Please.
Dervlathedog
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by coppertop1:
“Honestly I know it's not the done thing to quote ones own posts, but why oh why is Terry suddenly immune from the community guidelines of not discussing posters?

Honestly as Aggs said, mods mod and if you have a problem with that talk to them.

To keep this thread going complaining about mods modding has to be one of the most pointless thing going, there are ways you can complain officially if you wish to do so.

I personally never read any multiple poster threads, I find it extremely annoying however that titles and activities of such thread are always on my first page. I have requested that if you have a poster on ignore then you don't see any threads started by them. That would be awfully nice mods! Please.”

There's rather a big contradiction in asking people not to talk about a fellow poster in a thread expressly designed to limit that poster. It's a little bit like saying 'Black Lives Matter' shouldn't mention black lives; 'Save the Whales' shouldn't reference whales; 'Stop the War' etc. Extreme examples I know, but all the same.

Save Terry!

Free the M22 One!

Down With That Kind of Thing!
coppertop1
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“There's rather a big contradiction in asking people not to talk about a fellow poster in a thread expressly designed to limit that poster. It's a little bit like saying 'Black Lives Matter' shouldn't mention black lives; 'Save the Whales' shouldn't reference whales; 'Stop the War' etc. Extreme examples I know, but all the same.

Save Terry!

Free the M22 One!

Down With That Kind of Thing!”

Offensive over reaction I would say, yuck.

To compare anything that happens on a flippery light hearted board to anything as important as those things is really insensitive.

Things have never changed, there are rules that have always existed, I suspected the Mods with many boards to mod, get fed up each year to get multiple reports about the same thing.

I don't know i am not a mod, nor is anyone else I know. However I would refer you to them rather than making tasteless comparisons to things that really matter.
Dervlathedog
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by coppertop1:
“Offensive over reaction I would say, yuck.

To compare anything that happens on a flippery light hearted board to anything as important as those things is really insensitive.

Things have never changed, there are rules that have always existed, I suspected the Mods with many boards to mod, get fed up each year to get multiple reports about the same thing.

I don't know i am not a mod, nor is anyone else I know. However I would refer you to them rather than making tasteless comparisons to things that really matter.”

So you didn't read 'Extreme examples I know', or gauge my tone? ('Down With That Kind of Thing!') That's OK. It's late!

But the main point stands. The thread is poking fun at a forum member. Someone in a position of authority is using their authority against an ordinary board member. They're doing it now. Every time a TerryM22 thread is merged into this one, someone is making the fresh judgement that it's OK to single him out and treat his threads differently to those of any other poster. That's not fair. A fair-minded poster -- even someone who doesn't like Terry -- would resist that unequal treatment.

It's no good to say 'mods mod' (sorry) when that phrase is an argument in favour of an arbitrary rule used against an individual poster. That's like backing caprice. It's like patting McNichol on the back. As bad as that.

It's perfectly reasonable IMO to name Terry whilst speaking of his equal right to post on this board.
Ann_Dancer
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by coppertop1:
“Honestly I know it's not the done thing to quote ones own posts, but why oh why is Terry suddenly immune from the community guidelines of not discussing posters?

Honestly as Aggs said, mods mod and if you have a problem with that talk to them. ”

I guess, coppertop, because of the way in which the moderation was done. It seems to break the forum rules they are supposed to be upholding by belittling and making fun of a poster and implicitly encouraging forum members to do the same en masse. Moderation should be low key and even handed. It should not be possible for me to infer anything about the personality of the moderator from their actions.

And yes, I have alerted them and made my views known, but in this particular instance I don't think that is adequate.
aggs
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by Ann_Dancer:
“I guess, coppertop, because of the way in which the moderation was done. It seems to break the forum rules they are supposed to be upholding by belittling and making fun of a poster and implicitly encouraging forum members to do the same en masse. Moderation should be low key. It should not be possible for me to infer anything about the personality of the moderator from their actions.

And yes, I have alerted them and made my views known.”

This thread is at least 2 years old. If you go back to page 11 you will see when it happened and follow all the exact same arguements through - several times

All of which suggests at least a couple of things ... some people will continue to carry on regardless and flout the rules as they see fit and that Mods are allowed to bump old threads.
Ann_Dancer
09-09-2016
Fair point aggs. I wasn't around then. My comments on moderation still stand, but I guess there is no point in going on about it.
perdiedumpling
09-09-2016
Judging from the modding from the different sub-forums, the different mods appear to have different approaches. Perhaps it wasn't the usual SCD mod who created this thread, who is then back modding this forum. Perhaps it was the mod themselves who, without prompting of alerts, decided to resurrect this thread? We don't know. But I'd say if that is the mod we have got for this series, the decision won't be reversed.

And now I've just typed "mod", "modding" and "different" so many times, they're starting to lose their meaning. *blinks* That's what I get for attempting to post while under-caffeinated.
Lou_Black
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“This thread is at least 2 years old. If you go back to page 11 you will see when it happened and follow all the exact same arguements through - several times

All of which suggests at least a couple of things ... some people will continue to carry on regardless and flout the rules as they see fit and that Mods are allowed to bump old threads. ”


I'm amazed this thread is still going! As a BBC message board veteran, any discussion about moderation was jumped upon from a great height with frosty posts, bans and threats of "further measures"

For my part, I would just like to say that moderators over here are super cool, incredibly funny and impossibly good looking. < angelic face >
Nina_Blake
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“I agree with all of you.
The thing about Terry is that he is never anything other than polite and friendly and I don't like to see him/her singled out like this when others are rude and disrespectful and nothing is done about it.

I'd better shut up as maybe I'll be the one who gets booted.
Wouldn't that just be Sod's Law?”

Seems a little bit concerning that you wouldn't be able to discuss the moderation of a forum from an objective standpoint!

I'd like to think the mods would be fair and allow this sort of discussion, especially when it is to defend an innocent member of the forum.

Btw, it just gave me mental images of people being "bumped off" who are about to speak out about a government
memmh
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“To me, Terry's threads aren't that annoying. They're certainly a lot less irritating than those really "interesting" (ie pointless) polls inundating the first page: "Who should have won in 2013?", "What's your favourite 4th contestant ever?", etc”

I agree with you about the endless polls. Discussion is welcome, but does every point of discussion have to be turned into a poll to vote on?

And talking of polls, isn't it time the "Semi-final: which was your favourite couple?" poll from last series was unpinned?
mimi dlc
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by memmh:
“I agree with you about the endless polls. Discussion is welcome, but does every point of discussion have to be turned into a poll to vote on?
”

Please vote Yes or No...
Janet43
09-09-2016
I thought this thread had been created to bring all of Terry's thoughts into one place so we can discuss them. Instead it's turned into a moan about the mods.

Terry does have some interesting thoughts and is probably the most enthusiastic poster about Strictly because he's enthusiastic about the programme.

Come on Terry - you do go a bit OTT sometimes (and I'm one of the first to say so), but get your enthusiasm back on track and tell us what are your current thoughts about the contestants in this merged thread?
Cadiva
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Mods mod, it's what they do.
We have no knowledge of what has gone off in Mod Towers, how many requests/warnings/ultimatums gone past their deadline. If there wasn't deemed to be an issue, then nothing would have been done.

They don't bother me <anymore> in themselves, but the rule flouting is possibly something the Mods needed everyone to know where they stand on before the series proper gets underway and things veer towards the busy and tetchy.”

Couldn't agree more. I modded one of the largest gaming forums for more than seven years and most posters were utterly oblivious to the amount of work which went on behind the scenes and would just jump when they thought something had been done out of nowhere.

I'd put money on the fact that they've finally reached a point where they feel compelled to do something. Plus, their forum their rules and they can do what they want whether people have complained or not.

Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“It's funny but I suspect one of the forum members is a mod ...”

Mods are forum members otherwise they wouldn't be able to post

In the old days it used to say on each particular forum who the Mods were but now it generally doesn't.
Mods who post in the forums also used to have proper names not just DS support staff but the main mod left Hurst Media as far as I am aware and he was the community manager for the forums and was a great guy who used to post a lot.

Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“I'm amazed this thread is still going! As a BBC message board veteran, any discussion about moderation was jumped upon from a great height with frosty posts, bans and threats of "further measures"

For my part, I would just like to say that moderators over here are super cool, incredibly funny and impossibly good looking. < angelic face >”

Oh the BBC SCD boards were absolutely hilarious and make this place look like a holiday camp
Kmc1978
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“It's funny but I suspect one of the forum members is a mod ...

.”

It's my understanding that if you take a mod role that you have to surrender your own DS account. There was a thread about it (in General Discussion I think) a year or so ago when they were advertising for new mods.
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