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Old 04-09-2013, 13:10
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Time for a new thread!!!

The new cast:

Bill Nye with Tyne (!!!!)
Brant Daugherty with Peta
Corbin Bleu with Karina
Keyshawn Johnson with Sharna
Bill Engvall with Emma
Jack Osborne with Cheryl

Amber Riley with Derek
Elizabeth Berkley with Val
Snooki with Sasha
Valerie Harper with Tris
Christina Milian with Mark
Leah Remini with Tony
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Old 04-09-2013, 13:32
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Poor Gleb

Hope SCD poache him!
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Old 04-09-2013, 13:33
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I don't know most of the cast - if someone could post a sentence on what they're most known for, it would be much appreciated

I'll start with:

Jack Osborne
Reality TV star and MS sufferer - part of a famous family

Valerie Harper
Seventy-something actress best known for paying Rhoda in the Mary Tyler Moore Show and Rhoda - currently in remission from brain cancer

er...that's it
(okay, I have a vague notion of who Amber and Elizabeth are )
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Old 04-09-2013, 13:33
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Poor Gleb

Hope SCD poache him!
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Old 04-09-2013, 13:41
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Elizabeth is the ringers finger- she has actual ballroom training!

Surprised she's not with Derek
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Old 04-09-2013, 13:48
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I don't know most of the cast - if someone could post a sentence on what they're most known for, it would be much appreciated

I'll start with:

Jack Osborne
Reality TV star and MS sufferer - part of a famous family

Valerie Harper
Seventy-something actress best known for paying Rhoda in the Mary Tyler Moore Show and Rhoda - currently in remission from brain cancer

er...that's it
(okay, I have a vague notion of who Amber and Elizabeth are )
This says what shows etc they famous for briefly if that helps. http://www.buddytv.com/articles/danc...son-51091.aspx
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Old 04-09-2013, 13:51
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Elizabeth is the ringers finger- she has actual ballroom training!

Surprised she's not with Derek
She's one of the few in the cast I've heard of, I think she's most famous for appearing in the teen sitcom 'Saved by the bell' and the gratuitously explicit film 'Showgirls'.

So Val gets another strong ringer for the second time on the trot......hmm he seems to be generously favoured now.
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Old 04-09-2013, 13:56
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This says what shows etc they famous for briefly if that helps. http://www.buddytv.com/articles/danc...son-51091.aspx
Thanks. This is what it says:

Nicole "Snooki" Polizzi: Star of MTV's Jersey Shore

Keyshawn Johnson: Former NFL wide receiver

Valerie Harper: Star of The Mary Tyler Moore Show and Rhoda who recently survived brain cancer

Brant Daugherty: Star of ABC Family's Pretty Little Liars

Christina Milian: Singer and actress, former social media correspondent for The Voice

Bill Nye: The Science Guy (actor? presenter? a scientist???)

Elizabeth Berkley: Star of Saved by the Bell and Showgirls

Corbin Bleu: Star of High School Musical

Amber Riley: Star of Glee

Bill Engvall: Blue Collar Comedy Tour comedian

Jack Osbourne: Star of The Osbournes

Leah Remini: Star of The King of Queens

photos here with a bit more bio:
http://www.buddytv.com/slideshows/da...-17-48092.aspx
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Old 04-09-2013, 14:25
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Hey all.

This cast is great but I think ours is more entertaining TBH

Looking forward to Amber the most and also Jack. Should be a great season.
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Old 04-09-2013, 14:39
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Poor Tristan. Can he for once get a ringer?
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Old 04-09-2013, 14:45
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Annoyed Derek gets Amber. He is favoured ONCE AGAIN with a celeb who is very popular with the audience. Week 6 guaranteed for Derek then.

Snooki will be 1st out I think. She is not a likeable personality I think.
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Old 04-09-2013, 14:52
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I think Snooki will last quite a while- The Situation did and he was dreadful!

I think one of the Bills will be out first (what a waste of Emma if so)
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Old 04-09-2013, 15:20
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Annoyed Derek gets Amber. He is favoured ONCE AGAIN with a celeb who is very popular with the audience. Week 6 guaranteed for Derek then.

Snooki will be 1st out I think. She is not a likeable personality I think.
BIB She has really changed for the better since she had her kid 1 year ago. She is not the same Snooki that was on the Jersey Shore. I am actually pleasantly surprised to see how she turned her life around . I think that a lot of people will warm up to her and will be surprised (in a good way ) by her demeanor. Sure twitter following may not mean a lot but she has the biggest fanbase a celeb ever had on this show. Almost 6.5 million followers.
She may become another Kelly Ozbourne that a lot of people expected to dislike but the public fell in love with her in season 9.

A lot of people think that Elisabeth will go very far and might even win but I actually think that she will be one of the first female celeb to eliminated. She doesnt have a big fanbase compared to most of the female cast.
This season fanbase will be very very important and looking at this cast Elizabeth imo has a very small fanbase compared to all these celebs even Leah .Sure some people will recall her from STB but its not going to be enough. She may be a ringer but if she doesnt have the fanbase she cant go far.
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Old 04-09-2013, 15:24
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Awww Tony seems so excited bless him
Karina and Corbin : favorite couple to win : They were just too adorable this morning. Best chemistry so far and he is an excellent dancer. Plus Karina always wanted him to do the show so I know she is thrilled .
The male cast is fantastic, most of them seem so likeable.
Amber and Christina might be the last 2 female celebs to be eliminated.
And Awwwww at Valerie but poor Sweet Tristan. Oh well.........I see that he is becoming the new Tony.
Overall like I have already said, its a very good cast.
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Old 04-09-2013, 15:46
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And Awwwww at Valerie but poor Sweet Tristan. Oh well.........I see that he is becoming the new Tony.
With the difference that Tony had at leat something like a ringer in his first season and tristan had in 5 seasons so far no ringer.
But maybe next season.
But imho a more well known cast i think so too. Last time a cast this well known was season 10.
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Old 04-09-2013, 16:08
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BIB She has really changed for the better since she had her kid 1 year ago. She is not the same Snooki that was on the Jersey Shore. I am actually pleasantly surprised to see how she turned her life around . I think that a lot of people will warm up to her and will be surprised (in a good way ) by her demeanor. Sure twitter following may not mean a lot but she has the biggest fanbase a celeb ever had on this show. Almost 6.5 million followers.
She may become another Kelly Ozbourne that a lot of people expected to dislike but the public fell in love with her in season 9.
I am also surprised by how Snooki has changed since having a kid. She really settled down and so far came across as a likable person. Like you said, I initially didn't like Kelly pre-DWTS but throughout the season, she completely proved me wrong and now I like her now. If all things go well for Snooki, she might make past week 4, which was where The Situation finished.

A lot of people think that Elisabeth will go very far and might even win but I actually think that she will be one of the first female celeb to eliminated. She doesnt have a big fanbase compared to most of the female cast.
This season fanbase will be very very important and looking at this cast Elizabeth imo has a very small fanbase compared to all these celebs even Leah .Sure some people will recall her from STB but its not going to be enough. She may be a ringer but if she doesnt have the fanbase she cant go far.
Part of me thinks Elizabeth might get booted out early too, primarily due to fanbase. Of the female cast members, Christina, Snooki and Amber already has an advantage with the viewers. With the male members, Corbin (former Disney star) and Keyshawn will get the fan votes. The public votes this season would be more crucial than ever. Unlike UK Strictly, where the scores are determined by placings from judges and viewers, the US DWTS overall scores are determined by percentage shares of the night from judges and viewers. With ABC airing the show once a week this season, it should get more interesting with how the eliminations are being conducted.

Pre-show predictions:

Of the males (in order of placing predictions):

1. Corbin
2. Keyshawn
3. Brant
4. Jack
5. Bill (science guy)
6. Bill (comedy guy)

Of the females (in order of placing predictions):

1. Christina
2. Amber (Derek will have many trick up his sleeves)
3. Snooki
4. Valerie
5. Elizabeth
6. Leah

The cast lineup is much better than last season. The ratings has the potential to go up this season as well, most likely in total viewers than 18-49. But both areas should see an improvement.
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Old 04-09-2013, 16:24
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Really great cast !!!! Rooting for Christina,Corbin,Brant,Amber and Snooki .
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Old 04-09-2013, 16:26
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So Lindsay and Gleb are not part of the pro line up?

Will they be part of the troupe?
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Old 04-09-2013, 16:38
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So Lindsay and Gleb are not part of the pro line up?

Will they be part of the troupe?
Pretty sure Gleb is in the troupe - looked like him dancing in some of the stills I saw from GMA. I haven't checked properly. Too busy sulking
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Old 04-09-2013, 16:40
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Really great cast !!!! Rooting for Christina,Corbin,Brant,Amber and Snooki .
Me too especially Corbin and Christina. I like Snooki and wants her to do so well (I know she will ) but she is paired up with Sasha and I cant stand him. I have a dilemma here !!!
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Old 04-09-2013, 16:43
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She's one of the few in the cast I've heard of, I think she's most famous for appearing in the teen sitcom 'Saved by the bell' and the gratuitously explicit film 'Showgirls'.

So Val gets another strong ringer for the second time on the trot......hmm he seems to be generously favoured now.
I doubt it. Imo Amber will outlast Elisabeth and I can bet on it .
The Glee fanbase is HUGE and when you combine it with Derek's fanbase the most popular pro yeah good result. Imo Amber and Derek will make it to the quarter/semi finals at least but Amber will Outlast Elisabeth.
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Old 04-09-2013, 16:44
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Can I jut say what an amazing cast this is! Bill Nye <3
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Old 04-09-2013, 16:52
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I am also surprised by how Snooki has changed since having a kid. She really settled down and so far came across as a likable person. Like you said, I initially didn't like Kelly pre-DWTS but throughout the season, she completely proved me wrong and now I like her now. If all things go well for Snooki, she might make past week 4, which was where The Situation finished.



Part of me thinks Elizabeth might get booted out early too, primarily due to fanbase. Of the female cast members, Christina, Snooki and Amber already has an advantage with the viewers. With the male members, Corbin (former Disney star) and Keyshawn will get the fan votes. The public votes this season would be more crucial than ever. Unlike UK Strictly, where the scores are determined by placings from judges and viewers, the US DWTS overall scores are determined by percentage shares of the night from judges and viewers. With ABC airing the show once a week this season, it should get more interesting with how the eliminations are being conducted.

Pre-show predictions:

Of the males (in order of placing predictions):

1. Corbin
2. Keyshawn
3. Brant
4. Jack
5. Bill (science guy)
6. Bill (comedy guy)

Of the females (in order of placing predictions):

1. Christina
2. Amber (Derek will have many trick up his sleeves)
3. Snooki
4. Valerie
5. Elizabeth
6. Leah

The cast lineup is much better than last season. The ratings has the potential to go up this season as well, most likely in total viewers than 18-49. But both areas should see an improvement.
Are reading my mind ? lol. Couldn't agree more . I especially agree with the BIB.
Imo the first female celebs to be eliminated will be between Leah and Elisabeth.
I agree with your male ranking as well but I will shake things a little bit between your top 3 female celebs.

As much as I like Christina and wants her to do so well, I can see Amber and Snooki (if the public connect with her ) outlasting her. Once again its going to come down to fanbase and imo these 2 girls are more popular than her.
I love Mark ; he is my favorite male pro on DWTS but he can be a bit of a hit and miss with the viewers. So I really hope for Christina's sake that obnoxious Mark doesn't make an appearance this season or else its going to cost her some votes.
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Old 04-09-2013, 17:31
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I doubt it. Imo Amber will outlast Elisabeth and I can bet on it .
The Glee fanbase is HUGE and when you combine it with Derek's fanbase the most popular pro yeah good result. Imo Amber and Derek will make it to the quarter/semi finals at least but Amber will Outlast Elisabeth.
Ok I bow down to your greater knowledge as you know more about the US celebs, I'm not really an avid Glee watcher so didn't recognise Amber's name & yeah it's a huge show so I can see her being very popular. So Derek is favoured yet again - how unsurprising

I immediately recognised Elizabeth's name though and because it was mentioned she's a 'ringer' I thought she might have some viewer appeal especially those who used to watch her in 'Saved by the bell'. Mind you I thought Shannon Doherty would be quite popular but if I remember rightly she was a first exit.
Pretty sure Gleb is in the troupe - looked like him dancing in some of the stills I saw from GMA. I haven't checked properly. Too busy sulking
Aww sorry soupy. He certainly seemed a good sport last season with Lisa - it would have been nice to see him with someone younger and more able. Hopefully he'll make a return as full pro next season.

Mind you I keep hoping against hope that they'll bring back Dmitry Chaplin but that doesn't seem likely anymore, they just bring him in to do one off performances.

Me too especially Corbin and Christina. I like Snooki and wants her to do so well (I know she will ) but she is paired up with Sasha and I cant stand him. I have a dilemma here !!!
I don't know much about Snooki - I know she was on 'Jersey Shore' which I never watched and she seems to be in the DM online website a lot, she does seem to suit Sasha in appearance - I'm not sure about Sasha , he's a really good dancer and seems quite a character but he also seems quite full of himself - we'll have to wait and see how he does as a teacher/choreographer. I think I prefer Henry Byalikov though.
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Old 04-09-2013, 17:38
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Aww sorry soupy. He certainly seemed a good sport last season with Lisa - it would have been nice to see him with someone younger and more able. Hopefully he'll make a return as full pro next season.

Mind you I keep hoping against hope that they'll bring back Dmitry Chaplin but that doesn't seem likely anymore, they just bring him in to do one off performances.
BIB - lol! Thanks . If they've kept him for the troupe, I suppose there's a chance he'll be back with a sleb one day. I liked Dmitry too. Sigh.

Article in USA Today
a bit on info about the new format and also comments from a couple of the cast.
The show also is eliminating the skybox area where host Brooke Burke-Charvet interviewed dancers after their performances, moving that area to the floor near the judges. Burke-Charvet and host Tom Bergeron will interview the couples from the floor before and after their performances.
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