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'Cheers' or 'Frasier'?


View Poll Results: Which was better: Cheers or Frasier?
Cheers 48 30.77%
Frasier 108 69.23%
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Old 04-09-2013, 18:15
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I've wondered before about whether or not people preferred the character of Frasier Crane on 'Cheers' or his own spin-off, but since 'Cheers' is being repeated at the moment, I began to wonder which of the two shows people prefer overall.

I'm torn, as I really enjoy both. 'Cheers' has perhaps a more comfortable feel about it, and can boast two distinct (but enjoyable) 'eras' - the Diane years and the Rebecca years whereas I felt that Frasier began treading water midway through its run and never really shook things up. Then again, 'Frasier' had brilliant performances, a cracking character in Niles and some great farce.

In a pinch, I'll go with 'Cheers' - although ironically that's because Frasier and Lilith were such standout characters on it!
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Old 04-09-2013, 18:53
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Both superb in my opinion. But Cheers would get my vote, Frasier did deteriorate considerably towards the end.
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Old 04-09-2013, 19:17
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Both superb in my opinion. But Cheers would get my vote, Frasier did deteriorate considerably towards the end.
I agree - I think that 'Frasier' what at its best when Frasier Crane still resembled the character he had been on 'Cheers' (roughly the first three seasons). After that, he became 'Nilesified' and the guy who had high-brow tastes but could still enjoy a beer and would roll his eyes at his brother's pomposity started to just compete with him to see who could be the biggest snob.

I think 'Frasier' might have been better in its later seasons if they'd brought in a long-term love interest who could hold her own against him (the way Lilith did on 'Cheers'). All we got was season after season of him being a loser in love, chasing a succession of cardboard cutout female characters who could have been played by anyone. Even the woman he eventually went after at the end was as dull as dishwater and had no chemistry with Grammer. He played a larger than life character and really needed a larger than life partner to spark off of (as he did with Shelley Long and, moreso, Bebe Neuwirth).
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Old 04-09-2013, 20:37
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Frasier was more my era than Cheers, but I have watched all of both and the good Doctor gets my vote.
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Old 04-09-2013, 20:46
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Frasier gets my vote
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Old 04-09-2013, 20:48
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Frasier! I've just finished watching them all through again for the 4th or 5th time and found myself still belly laughing to some of the jokes... That's something I can't even get from Friends these days, and that was my all time favorite show growing up.
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Old 04-09-2013, 21:05
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I can watch Frasier episodes over and over and over again.
Cheers is a bit too dour but I do like it

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Old 05-09-2013, 05:08
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I love both shows but cheers gets my vote
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:15
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Frasier is currently on Channel Four in the mornings.

I love both programmes, but I'd side with Dr Crane. He's listening!
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Old 05-09-2013, 07:48
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Frasier. There were a few characters I hated though - Daphne's family in particular. I also disliked his agent (Beebee ?) and I think it went downhill a bit when Niles and Daphne got together.
Also, Martins relationship with a woman young enough to be his daughter creeped me out a bit.
But overall, Frasier does it for me.
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Old 05-09-2013, 13:26
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Frasier for me
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Old 05-09-2013, 13:50
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Frasier is currently on Channel Four in the mornings.

I love both programmes, but I'd side with Dr Crane. He's listening!
I can't think of a time when it hasn't been on it in the mornings! Along with Everybody loves Raymond
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Old 05-09-2013, 13:50
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I voted for Cheers. Frasier was good, but Cheers had a far better range of characters, that all bounced well off one another.
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Old 05-09-2013, 14:13
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Both are outstanding, but Frasier takes it for me - I agree with the idea that it's more my era, but also characters like Diane (I preferred the Rebeccaa years) and particularly Carla got irritating after a while. The only regular character on Frasier that I couldn't stand was Daphne's mother, and she was only really in the later years. Both had great partnerships, sharp writing and re-watch quality.

Both shows sit proudly on my DVD shelf. In fact, they might soon be due for a re-watch...
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Old 05-09-2013, 15:29
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Cheers all the way for me.

I loved (almost) all the characters and how they interacted with each other. I cared about what happened to them. I couldn't take to Frasier at all (even the "song" at the start made me grit my teeth) and I couldn't care less what happened to any of them.
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Old 05-09-2013, 18:45
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I love both equally, but Cheers gets vote. There would be no Frasier without Cheers.
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Old 05-09-2013, 21:44
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I just want Frasiers apartment....so yeah. Frasier!!!
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Old 12-09-2013, 14:16
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Frasier - much more funnier that Cheers.
To be honest I don't get the hype about Cheers.
My husband adores it
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Old 12-09-2013, 17:51
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I loved them both, but has been many years since watching, so impossible to choose now.

Frasier was sharper comedy-wise, but Cheers had that feel-good factor.
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Old 12-09-2013, 18:08
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Cheers, for me!
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Old 12-09-2013, 18:09
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Frazier was a far better show. Probably the best spin off of all time.
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Old 12-09-2013, 20:26
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Frasier. There were a few characters I hated though - Daphne's family in particular. I also disliked his agent (Beebee ?) and I think it went downhill a bit when Niles and Daphne got together.
Also, Martins relationship with a woman young enough to be his daughter creeped me out a bit.
But overall, Frasier does it for me.
This - agree with everything you say - I couldn't abide Daphne's family with their different accents. But I absolutely love the older episodes, it still remains my favourite comedy!
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Old 12-09-2013, 20:41
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both were pretty equal in my book, though it's weird re-watching the old Cheers some 30ish years later.

I think Frasier had better word play from the writers, but Cheers shared the laughs around post-Diane.

Roz sometimes felt like a fifth wheel early on
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Old 12-09-2013, 22:22
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I'm also torn as both were superb imo, but I would have to vote for Frasier purely because of the utterly wonderful David Hyde-Pierce as Niles.
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Old 12-09-2013, 23:03
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both were pretty equal in my book, though it's weird re-watching the old Cheers some 30ish years later.

I think Frasier had better word play from the writers, but Cheers shared the laughs around post-Diane.

Roz sometimes felt like a fifth wheel early on
I think Roz was underused throughout the series (as were the KACL group, a lot of the time). Frasier is known (rightfully) for its high brow references and intellectual comedy - but Cheers had this in spades when Diane was around.
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