This year's zelebrity version of the show is shite!

Your 'twist' was pathetic - what did you expect us to think?
'Oh, a secret room, how original'

You put arguably the most influential HM (Carol) into the secret room, along with someone you'd already put in another secret room all of 2 bloody weeks ago (Lauren) and then you gave her the ultimate level of power by allowing her to nominate someone after having days of access to footage of all of the house activity!

If you want her to win so badly, why not just shut up shop now, hand her the money and save us all from having to watch you slowly murder a great format?

You mess about with the noms process at every opportunity so we now have nominations that are bland and ridiculous.
Despite your protestations that they HMs must give valid reasons, you allow them to give very feeble ones.

FYI - Louie nominating someone for nominating him is NOT a valid reason.

Historically, some of the stuff said in the DR, during noms and otherwise has given us absolute TV gold! How likely are we to ever see stuff like that again, when the HMs know there's every chance (with you lot a distinct possibility) that their nominations will be played in glorious technicolour on the plasma?

You continuously allow the HMs to get a sense of the public's perception of them, courtesy of the baying mob at Elstree's booing and chanting and tennis balls being fired into the compound. It is not beyond the wit of man that you could have thought of putting Emma in a soundproof booth when she talks to the house and sticking some kind of netting over the premises.

And as if that's not bad enough, you now have all these 'visits' from family members/loved ones/spin-off show presenters/body-language 'experts' and so on and so on.

Someone well-known going in there to do a task with the HMs is fine, but at the rate you're going, you might as well do a raffle each week and allow a member of the viewing public the chance to go in and meet them all

I actually don't mind there being twists and turns in BB, in fact, I've come to expect and look forward to them. But not ones that have already been done to death over the years and not ones that interfere with things that IMO should be sacrosanct ie

1. Nominations should be done in the DR only and should be completely private.

2. NO allowing the HMs to have any interaction with the outside world with the exception of possibly a letter towards the end as a reward for those who stayed the distance or a guest visit specifically for task purposes.

Additionally, I wish you'd take noms-talk rule-breaks more seriously FGS! A few hours in 'prison' is clearly not enough of a punishment to stop them breaking this most basic rule so why not make it more punitive? Rule-breakers should be automatically put up and it can't only be us who consider that to be fair and right.

Why are this year's zelebs all dying to get paid and get the hell out of there? It's really not enjoyable to watch so maybe you need to be more inventive with their contracts.

Paying them for pitching-up just isn't good enough as this series has shown.

I love the show and have supported it from the very start. Some of what the production team have done since it's been on C5 has been brilliant.

But you shouldn't keep trying to fix what isn't broke and you shouldn't be doing twists just for the sake of it.

Strive for originality. Don't keep dragging out old concepts year after year.

We really want to watch but sometimes, you make it damned difficult!

Great post- you need to email it to Endemol.

I don't suppose they particularly want or expect Carol to win. But they certainly do seem to want to give her the maximum exposure, as with Speidi, whom they also presumably knew wouldn't win.

The general principle of BB singling out housemates for high-profile special tasks has become very irksome imo. I don't think it used to happen. Things like Makosi's two tasks and the Africa swap were selected randomly. Now it is invariably - "who do we want to be the star of the show? Let's give him/ her (generally her it would seem) a lot of extra tasks and focus entirely on them for a while". In BB14 it got ridiculous that the person who won had been treated so shabbily by BB, virtually ignored for the duration while the person who came third was given special treatment almost every day.

Thumbs up to the OP ! Get it off to Endemol.

Excellent post, OP.

You said it all - it is becoming harder and harder to enjoy the show with all the repetitive meddling.

Why don't you let endemol know where you work, so they can type a long rant about how rubbish you are at your job?

The show is rating better than ever at C5, which shows viewers are responding to what they are doing. ALL shows have to move with the times and sticking to dated, old fashioned ideals of what you think the show should be is short-sighted.

Try producing near 120 shows a year and making every task feel original, the same with noms. And try coming up with twists and turns so you don't just get people washing dishes and sleeping all day.

I wish I worked on the show so I could cancel it to spite bitter, angry, moaning formers like you.

Also get better celebs, Carol, Vicky, Dustin, Abz, Bruce, Mario bloody awful Charlotte, that Irish woman..they really got people who are not even z list.

Carol thinks he is a big A list celeb but she is just a twit who sits on a crappy talk show panel with other dried up bints..just watching the CBB when Rylan took part there were some bigger celebs in it, same with Julian's year we had Julie Goodyear and the Kemp fella..why could the producers not get proper celebrities this year?

and they need to stop arselicking Carol, that task was unreal.

Great post.

Can I also add the this is BB not IACGMOOH enough of the eating tasks already.

I think people really need to stop using that expression, its disgusting.


I'd loose the eating tasks from IAC too.

This year's line up of 'celebs' is shocking!

The fact most of them are moaning they want to go home is quite annoying, I have stopped watching it over the last couple of days, I cant bare to watch them moaning 24/7 they know what the CBB house involves why moan?!!!!

As for the twists you keep pulling, it's pathetic we've just 8 weeks of it with the BB , they're boring now can't u come up with anything new and fun ?!


... I just hope next years is better or I may be boycotting for good!

I am enjoying this summer. I like what they are doing and no doubt many more too. That's why it winds me up to red the constant moaning.

How pointlessly rude. The OP was using a discussion forum for its correct purpose, ie to put a point of view, without abuse, about the subject under discussion. You are misusing it by turning to personal abuse. There are very reasonable criticisms to be made of this and the last CBB.

I think it is a question of less becoming more. There are just not enough famous people wanting to do CBB (which is a fairly low status programme in Rtv terms) to fill two shows a year. Hence fillers like Danielle (who?) and the wearisome plundering of other rtv shows so the whole thing becomes a kind of merry go round.

I don't really mind the housemates not being very famous - I have hardly ever heard of them anyway, as I don't watch scripted reality shows or soaps - but there is a very destructive time-serving element creeping in imo. They know only too well how unlikely it is these days that they will get a big career boost from CBB, and there is no prize money, so they really do just seem to want to sit and wait until they can bank their fee. Rylan was not everyone's cup of tea, but at least he was optimistic and positive about it all. I swear that this year the housemates started to moan about how bored they were on day 1.


Yes, so annoying when the chosen stars keep on getting special treatment, so the others are more and more invisible.

The quality of HMs isn't bad, it was the same with the main show.

The problem is not the people, its the tasks, they should be linked to budget, last two days, be difficult and involve them all working as a team.

The silly predictable tasks and the mini tasks and the secret tasks are just rubbish.

It has been the worst CBB so far with most of the celebs being totally washed up nobodies or just random Irish people that nobody in Ireland had even heard of
We all know they go on CBB when they need money/career is on the wane but this lot are really awful.

Well said OP........and may I add a couple of points too.....

Even though I don't think Lauren will win.......unless viewers fall for the frail dotty aunt act.......I don't think BB use her because she is a winner..........more for the entertainment value she might generate......

I think BB really b***ered up what HMs say in the DR, years ago, by showing HMs what had been said about them........who on earth is going to sit there and say exactly what they mean now.........they know at some time it may be shown........BB shot themselves in the foot with that one..........it is one thing us viewers being a fly on the wall, privileged to see what is said.........it is another for the HMs to see themselves slagging off other HMs.......

Heartily agree with most of the OP. Signed.


(Though as ever they'd say they don't care who wins, and I'd say if you're going to leave one HM in the secret room then it's good if it's the HM who's most vociferous. Usually they come back in and don't live up to their intentions. If Carol's running the joint it's because she's running the joint.)

Brilliant post. Especially regarding tasks and favouring Carol - she virtually ran the place before without the need for BB giving her even more control.

Yes, it seems to have taken a long time to sink in, but it has done now. They know, and future housemates will know, that anything they say in the diary room may be played to the house; and that if any housemates are separated as part of a task they will be listening to the house. Which marks the end of the era of unguarded chatting really.

The OP was moaning and slating the production team, I was standing up for them and slating the OP. Fair is fair.

Ratings are up, the summer series was of the best every yet people still come on here and moan, moan, moan. Pretty much 80+% of posts are moan, moans, moans.

I don't understand why all of a sudden Carol got special treatment, it's very unfair on the other HMs and very annoying as she such a bitch, but BB could be feeding her lines and telling her to play the baddie, we just never know what is really going on.
I couldn't even watch her going back in last night as she is so full of her own importance as it is without them making her feel more superior!

This is a discussion forum, you might not like what other posters say, but quite frankly that's tough on your part.

Your comments about Big Brother being better than ever on Five though did make me laugh, thanks for that

I think it is a question of less becoming more. There are just not enough famous people wanting to do CBB (which is a fairly low status programme in Rtv terms) to fill two shows a year. Hence fillers like Danielle (who?) and the wearisome plundering of other rtv shows so the whole thing becomes a kind of merry go round.

I don't really mind the housemates not being very famous - I have hardly ever heard of them anyway, as I don't watch scripted reality shows or soaps - but there is a very destructive time-serving element creeping in imo. They know only too well how unlikely it is these days that they will get a big career boost from CBB, and there is no prize money, so they really do just seem to want to sit and wait until they can bank their fee. Rylan was not everyone's cup of tea, but at least he was optimistic and positive about it all. I swear that this year the housemates started to moan about how bored they were on day 1. QUOTE FROM WONKEYDONKEY


Sorry.......I don't know how to take bits of posts out without cutting and pasting......

Just had to agree about your comment about the celebs.......gone are the days of Brigit Neilson and Jackie Stallone........it doesn't seem to attract the big names anymore........perhaps because of the lack of any career advancement or offers afterwards........also the HMs seem to be really bored, and as you say, they are moaning and just wanting the show to be over.......

Good post ..... especially agree that no longer Hm's rant in the dr because they know it will be broadcast to the others ...... What's the point in bothering with a dr anymore ?

Endemol ........FGS SACK THE THICKO PRODUCERS !!!

well said.

There's always talk of big names and quotes of people like JS and BN, yet they were never big stars really (being famous for a connection to a big star isn't really being famous in my eyes), and certainly not at the time when they did CBB. People only go on CBB to try and turn their fortune around and claw back some of the 'fame' they are rapidly losing, or to publicise something. EG. at the time Mark Owen went on it he was a failing solo artist, not a big A lister.