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Vile housemates?
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DavetheSensible
05-09-2013
VILE:
1.
abominably wicked; shameful or evil
2. morally despicable; ignoble
3. disgusting to the senses or emotions; foul
4. tending to humiliate or degrade
5. unpleasant or bad
6. paltry

A strong Middle-English word, meant to be used as an exceptional description because of the disgusting nature of the person/event being described
I was wondering whether any of the housemates actually warrant the use of the word, and if so why?
ForGodsSake
05-09-2013
Carol - Unpleasant and bad, tending to humiliate or degrade.
kate03
05-09-2013
Well according to threads on this forum, those housemates would be Carol and Lauren.

I really cannot stand that word. It's vile
ForGodsSake
05-09-2013
Lauren isn't vile - just not as she seems.
goldylookinfish
05-09-2013
Putting sh*t in the freezer was quite vile.
rancidbeings
05-09-2013
Dave, Dave, Dave!

I think any HM can warrant the word - if one finds them, their behaviours, their actions, their personalities, vile (another definition of which is 'extremely unpleasant').

For me, Speidi and Dex properly offended my moral compass. And I think that's the point really. We all have our personal little moral red rags to the proverbial bull. So depending on an individual's moral 'explode' buttons, a HM can easily be perceived as vile if they contravene one's moral code.

I don't make a habit of using it myself - once I think for a certain Speidi incident. But I do get a little huffy when people start incorrectly dictating that the word cannot be applied to HMs! Call me a vile pedant, if pedantry is vile to you
Sugar Ape
05-09-2013
Charlotte is vile.
An Thropologist
05-09-2013
If one is to use hyperbole to describe housemates we find deeply unpleasant what do we have left to describe the likes of Pol Pot, Ceausescu, Ian Brady or Aerial Castor (or pick your own seriously nasty person)?
kate03
05-09-2013
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“If one is to use hyperbole to describe housemates we find deeply unpleasant what do we have left to describe the likes of Pol Pot, Ceausescu, Ian Brady or Aerial Castor (or pick your own seriously nasty person)?”

Exactly. The true meaning of the word is lost completely.
K139
05-09-2013
Inhumane ?
An Thropologist
05-09-2013
Originally Posted by rancidbeings:
“Dave, Dave, Dave!

I think any HM can warrant the word - if one finds them, their behaviours, their actions, their personalities, vile (another definition of which is 'extremely unpleasant').

For me, Speidi and Dex properly offended my moral compass. And I think that's the point really. We all have our personal little moral red rags to the proverbial bull. So depending on an individual's moral 'explode' buttons, a HM can easily be perceived as vile if they contravene one's moral code.

I don't make a habit of using it myself - once I think for a certain Speidi incident. But I do get a little huffy when people start incorrectly dictating that the word cannot be applied to HMs! Call me a vile pedant, if pedantry is vile to you ”



Perish the thought RB.
Fink-Nottle
05-09-2013
A veil should be drawn over vile; for a very long vile.
James Frederick
05-09-2013
Conor was all of those and more
linmic
05-09-2013
Its quite overused on the forum I think and it rather lessens the true meaning of the word, but everyone has their own idea of what 'vile' is. I never use it personally but maybe thats because Ive never found any of the housemates vile.
DavetheSensible
05-09-2013
Originally Posted by rancidbeings:
“Dave, Dave, Dave!
”

I just hope you weren't near one of those hills that are scattered round the country when you said that.
Because if you were, there'll be thread loads of my brothers pouring through the portal from hell right now

HIDE THE CHEESE!!!
snickypoo
05-09-2013
It is a horrible word which I think is used far too much, Its as though someone has just learned a new word and thought....oh I'll use that word, regardless of its definition! People who rape and murder are vile people surely, not, people who dont flush the loo or drink too much
Once or twice on here when there have been threads started containing the word vile and aimed at certain HMs, Im sorry to say, but, the OP on these particular threads has been far more' vile' than the HM they are vilifying sorry if I have offended but it is how I feel
Ray_Smith
05-09-2013
I remember an earlier BB series with a girl called Grace. She was as close to vile as you'll ever see on the show.

I remember another series of BB when the police had to be called in due to the bullying and threatening behaviour. That series had some genuinely vile people.

Some might say nasty Nick - the original bad boy of BB (from series 1) was vile but his behaviour sort of made the show.

CBB has a different feel to regular BB. Cos it's celebs rather than regular folk.
DavetheSensible
05-09-2013
Originally Posted by snickypoo:
“Once or twice on here when there have been threads started containing the word vile and aimed at certain HMs, Im sorry to say, but, the OP on these particular threads has been far more' vile' than the HM they are vilifying sorry if I have offended but it is how I feel”

You go for it.
I'm sure there's no offense taken - and if there is, they're to blame, not you.
That was part of the point the thread is making.
Like a biscuit? Take two if you want.
Sugar Ape
05-09-2013
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“If one is to use hyperbole to describe housemates we find deeply unpleasant what do we have left to describe the likes of Pol Pot, Ceausescu, Ian Brady or Aerial Castor (or pick your own seriously nasty person)?”

Evil, Tyrants, Rapists, Murderers.

Don't recall any housemates being called any of those words.
snickypoo
05-09-2013
Originally Posted by DavetheSensible:
“You go for it.
I'm sure there's no offense taken - and if there is, they're to blame, not you.
That was part of the point the thread is making.
Like a biscuit? Take two if you want. ”

Thanks Dave! oooooh Garibaldi!!
B L Zeebub
05-09-2013
Originally Posted by DavetheSensible:
“VILE:
1.
abominably wicked; shameful or evil
2. morally despicable; ignoble
3. disgusting to the senses or emotions; foul
4. tending to humiliate or degrade
5. unpleasant or bad
6. paltry

A strong Middle-English word, meant to be used as an exceptional description because of the disgusting nature of the person/event being described
I was wondering whether any of the housemates actually warrant the use of the word, and if so why?”

I thought it was vile (no.4) how Mario's Mankini assets were being described as vile (no.6) by some on here.

Inverted Knobbery.
rancidbeings
05-09-2013
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
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Perish the thought RB.”

I may be vile - a pedant I've no doubt

Originally Posted by DavetheSensible:
“I just hope you weren't near one of those hills that are scattered round the country when you said that.
Because if you were, there'll be thread loads of my brothers pouring through the portal from hell right now

HIDE THE CHEESE!!!”

That sounds horrifically scary On an aside, I've acquired a new nickname 'Cheesestring' - thanks to that advert with the cheese detector thingy

Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“If one is to use hyperbole to describe housemates we find deeply unpleasant what do we have left to describe the likes of Pol Pot, Ceausescu, Ian Brady or Aerial Castor (or pick your own seriously nasty person)?”

Murderer? Rapist? Child abuser? We have finite terms that define such people - and a vast array of adjectives that can be utilised both in relation to such atrocious actions, as well as 'extremely unpleasant' things in the more day to day sense. Context is everything, and we have the appropriate language to employ to make the intended meaning clear. Vile is officially not reserved for perpetrators of horrific crimes. Using it in relation to HMs is not hyperbole if one can back up why they feel that word is appropriate in relation to the official definition.

Originally Posted by snickypoo:
“It is a horrible word which I think is used far too much, Its as though someone has just learned a new word and thought....oh I'll use that word, regardless of its definition! People who rape and murder are vile people surely, not, people who dont flush the loo or drink too much
Once or twice on here when there have been threads started containing the word vile and aimed at certain HMs, Im sorry to say, but, the OP on these particular threads has been far more' vile' than the HM they are vilifying sorry if I have offended but it is how I feel”

This is the problem I have though - people *are* using it correctly, and in line with the official definitions. To my knowledge there is no official definition stating that the word is reserved for application only to rapists, murderers etc. We all have a personal preferences surrounding vocabulary, our slightly different interpretations of meaning.

To be frank I think its very wrong to get huffy with people when they use a word correctly. For example, I've not liked Lauren being called 'freaky' - in some instances I suspect strong transphobic tendencies - but certainly not all and I can't deny that though *I* wouldn't use that word to describe her (preferring 'eccentric', 'unusual', 'different' myself - as I view her positively), others very validly can.

One's personal slant on a word's definition is just that - it does not make it the official definition.

.......

BTW, did I mention I am a pedant?
Kewpee
05-09-2013
Wasn't 'vile' a word used but the wannabe riche about a hundred or so years ago?

It seems like a word used by those desperate to be upwardly mobile and who don't wish to soil their vocabulary with words such as 'orrible and nasty, a century or so ago.

I doubt on the occasions that it is used it is meant in the way it is intended, it's a word that's easy to use, easy to spell and conveys a substantial amount of venom.

It gets a reaction now too, so I usually ignore it.
B L Zeebub
05-09-2013
It may, sometimes, be a typo for evil.
Oldnjaded
05-09-2013
DS regularly picks up on a new word, which, (having googled.....or not), they then over-use until the original meaning is pretty much lost.

Last year, the buzz words, (which most users didn't understand the meaning of), were 'passive-aggressive' and 'misogynistic'. Hence, one hm could metaphorically kick another hm's head in and be immediately labelled 'passive-aggressive'.

Similarly, any male hm who didn't like a particular female hm immediately became 'misogynistic', and the words spread like Ebola virus throughout the forums.

'Vile' is just another of those words. Don't kids have to keep a Vocabulary Book like we did any more, where you had to make a note of a new word every day and tell the rest of the class all about them once a week?
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