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bazaar1
08-09-2013
Or age bird- I work for a big charity, I rehome cats (and dogs) on a daily basis, I deal with the abandoned, mistreated, neglected and forgotten animals daily. I am also studying a masters in animal welfare, ethics and legislation (starts tomorrow!) in order to advance to a role where I can contribute to improving welfare in kennels. Does that mean I'm qualified enough to comment? Tbh I usually agree with you but validating the posters experience in rosé to say whether or not they can comment or hold an opinion is rediculous.

No one is having a go a Maisey, she goes the extra mile and we can all see that, however it is very easy to get over whelmed and the latest plea for help is just proving the point. I am happy to help, but our help is a short term solution, at the end of the day maisy still has 35 cats (and that number will grow) an nowhere to send them. Forgetting the welfare issues for the cats, poor maisy is obviously struggling and doing her best, but few could cope with that many cats at one time.

Maisy- my suggestion would be first port of call to the big charities, blue cross and cpl will be good bets (rather than RSPCA, as they are often unwilling to help- that's another debate however) they will have waiting lists but will often take kittens quicker than adults, but do offer alternatives, blue cross do 'home direct' which means they visit the cats at home and then rehome them from home, so eh never see a cattery. They may also be able to take one or two at a time from you.

Most importantly. Stop taking more in. You have to say no, I know it's difficult. But you are one woman, you can't do it all.
MarellaK
08-09-2013
Originally Posted by Yeah_Jackie:
“Oh right, she was wrong for starting a thank you thread too.

You couldn't make this up.

How any of you think trotting out the same criticisms day after day is constructive I don't know. Talk about kick someone when they are down.

MM has got the message, why the need to repeat it over and over if not to beat her with it.”

This is a public forum where we all have a right to reply, particularly to hostile posts like this. I was happy to leave the subject - I have left the other thread - but a poster asked what we are doing for cats in need, in what I perceived to be a somewhat adversarial manner, and then I was asked for practical suggestions, including by Maisie herself. I can see that I am not posting what she or others want to read, nobody has a magical solution to her problem (unless she wins the lottery) - so I will leave it there. I really believe that neither myself nor the other concerned posters have been rude or hostile at any time unlike a couple of her 'advocates'. Posting on a discussion forum means that there will inevitably be a range of opinions - otherwise, why join a forum like this in the first place?

As for the personal speculative comments, Maisie herself has posted previously about her back story, on this forum, so those facts are already in the public domain. I have so much sympathy for what she has been through in her life. Her posts are very helpful and she is obviously just a really nice person, anyone can see that. However, her post the other day regarding her financial plight was pitiful and made by somebody at the end of her tether and perhaps she is the one who now needs some looking after.

If you guys really believe Maisie is doing a great job and, as you can see following on from her initial thank you, many of you supported her original plan to carry on with the sanctuary after the recent donations, with maybe more than 35 cats inside one small house, then I think I must be too sensible and normal for this forum!
sweetpeanut
08-09-2013
Originally Posted by orangebird:
“And what have you offered?”

What is this a p*ssing contest?

Are only people who have sent money or food allowed a opinion?

I have offered advice for the long term and for the cats sakes

I have read a few of Masies posts over time and one thing that did strike me was her cats dont like people .. That is typical of all the cat hoarders I have ever seen. That is because they do not get enough one to one attention and the hoarder never has many RL friends or visitors.

Its a shame as most cats ( I know not all) love to be petted and love to snuggle up in bed and on sofas with people, love to play with people as well as other cats.
Yeah_Jackie
08-09-2013
My post is hostile? Hahaha.
bazaar1
08-09-2013
Originally Posted by Yeah_Jackie:
“My post is hostile? Hahaha.”

I didn't see a hostile post from you jackie
MarellaK
08-09-2013
Originally Posted by Yeah_Jackie:
“My post is hostile? Hahaha.”

Hostile in the sense of ''showing angry opposition'' (dictionary definition) to posters whose opinions you don't like. You come across as angry. You and Orangebird have to accept that others are free to express their views in a public forum, nobody can tell anybody to stop posting here even if we're ''just repeating ourselves'' - which we are, admittedly, but in response to others' recurrent criticism of our viewpoint. I have every right to reply.

I will definitely leave it now - before the thread gets closed, as it probably will eventually.
Yeah_Jackie
08-09-2013
Originally Posted by MarellaK:
“Hostile in the sense of ''showing angry opposition'' (dictionary definition) to posters whose opinions you don't like. You come across as angry. You and Orangebird have to accept that others are free to express their views in a public forum, nobody can tell anybody to stop posting here even if we're ''just repeating ourselves'' - which we are, admittedly, but in response to others' recurrent criticism of our viewpoint. I have every right to reply.

I will definitely leave it now - before the thread gets closed, as it probably will eventually.”

This is just hilarious.

Have a re read of the content and tone of your own posts in this thread if you are looking for what comes across as angry.
MarellaK
08-09-2013
Originally Posted by Yeah_Jackie:
“This is just hilarious.

Have a re read of the content and tone of your own posts in this thread if you are looking for what comes across as angry.”

I have read them, they're not angry posts by any stretch but I think you are somewhat biased with your perception because you don't agree with my viewpoint. And because you're quite an angry person yourself at times. I am perfectly happy with the content of the posts, thank you, but I would say that they probably come across as condescending, as the other poster mentioned, rather than angry. I am sorry about the patronising tone, probably due to the nature of my job - we nurses can be like that sometimes but also, at the same time, sensible, realistic and pragmatic. And Caring (though you may not agree I know some others will ). Qualities I possess in spades.
Yeah_Jackie
08-09-2013
Originally Posted by MarellaK:
“I have read them, they're not angry posts by any stretch but I think you are somewhat biased with your perception because you don't agree with my viewpoint. And because you're quite an angry person yourself at times. I am perfectly happy with the content of the posts, thank you, but I would say that they probably come across as condescending, as the other poster mentioned, rather than angry. I am sorry about the patronising tone, probably due to the nature of my job - we nurses can be like that sometimes but also, at the same time, sensible, realistic and pragmatic. Caring. Qualities I possess in spades.”

You should do internet psychologist as a sideline. Some skills you have there.
Richard1960
08-09-2013
Ok enough is enough could we just not learn to respect others views without all the bile.

We could all agree to disagree.
MarellaK
08-09-2013
Originally Posted by Yeah_Jackie:
“You should do internet psychologist as a sideline. Some skills you have there. ”

Thank you, I'll take a pass on that. Not sure what you're trying to imply actually, I'm not so good at picking up (un)subtle sarcasm. Unless you're saying I've misread your tone and you're not angry? Well, that's the problem with the written word because that's how you come across to me......if not angry then certainly rather rude.

For your information, I have studied psychology at degree level, I have spent my career in a caring profession and my brother, who I am close to and have long discussions with, is a Consultant Psychiatrist. So I'm not completely ignorant about psychology which is why I personally found the term used by Orangebird so offensive. I hope I have expressed adequately that I do care about Maisie's welfare and I am sorry if that has not come across (though I personally think that it has).

Edit, Richard, I agree, no need for bile. I will apologise for using the word ''hostile'' in relation to J's post. That's just how I perceived it at the time, not so much looking back, but it's obviously really upset and annoyed him and inspired these last few unpleasant posts.

Sorry.
Richard1960
08-09-2013
Come on now children.
dekaf
08-09-2013
Maisey Moo
09-09-2013
All I said was thankyou. Again I do mean it.
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