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How come Abz never hugs the evicted housemate?
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patricia50
06-09-2013
Originally Posted by Jerrica09:
“My son has Asperger's, he hates hugs, it's a sensory overload thing for him. He'll allow it from me and his uncle, but no-one else.”

I thought that might be the case. I don't know a lot about Aspergers but some people seem to have no understanding at all. We shouldn't pass judgement when we know nothing about the condition.
Enidan
06-09-2013
I dislike being touched unnecessarily whilst not having aspergers.
monkey13
06-09-2013
Originally Posted by snickypoo:
“You don't need to educate me on Aspergers Syndrome, both of my sons have the condition, by the way I think it is great that you have educated yourself about this condition.When the OP commented about Abz not giving the evicted HMs a hug, you knew immediately the reason, as did I, because we are armed with the knowledge. That doesnt make you and I better people than anyone else, maybe some posters who dont understand this condition would benefit from learning about it, but there ways of saying this, and in my opinion you came across as too harsh and somewhat patronising. By the way, you can have your rollyeyes smilie back!”

Bravo! I actually knew nothing about the condition and I have no idea how your children's condition effects everyday life for you. But I do feel a little more enlightened thanks to your post.
Milhause
06-09-2013
Originally Posted by snickypoo:
“You don't need to educate me on Aspergers Syndrome, both of my sons have the condition, by the way I think it is great that you have educated yourself about this condition.When the OP commented about Abz not giving the evicted HMs a hug, you knew immediately the reason, as did I, because we are armed with the knowledge. That doesnt make you and I better people than anyone else, maybe some posters who dont understand this condition would benefit from learning about it, but there ways of saying this, and in my opinion you came across as too harsh and somewhat patronising. By the way, you can have your rollyeyes smilie back!”

Yes and when ignorant (that is, as in uneducated) people like the OP are discriminating/dissing/beating up people like your sons you will thank the Lord that there are people better educated, like me, to know better.
Zizu58
06-09-2013
Originally Posted by Blackened1:
“Doesnt stop him giving them a hug goodbye though?”

Actually it may do .

Many on the spectrum dislike / avoid any form of physical contact ...
Shadyfish
06-09-2013
Originally Posted by Milhause:
“Yes and when ignorant (that is, as in uneducated) people like the OP are discriminating/dissing/beating up people like your sons you will thank the Lord that there are people better educated, like me, to know better. ”

yes it's all about raising awareness about Asbergers and other "invisible" illnesses. maybe not the right forum but i'm going to say it anyway. Those of us who have life experience of how mental ill health, alcoholism, drug abuse etc. affects life and families are not easily fooled by the "acting out" of people who will do anything to get publicity.
Halki
06-09-2013
Originally Posted by Jerrica09:
“My son has Asperger's, he hates hugs, it's a sensory overload thing for him. He'll allow it from me and his uncle, but no-one else.”

Ditto my daughter, who is 20. She mostly hates hugs. I get the occasional one, few people do! It's very typical of somebody with Aspergers. Still, the ones she gives mean a lot.
Nosedive
06-09-2013
Originally Posted by Blackened1:
“He just walks over to the stairs and not hugs them...”

McCrirrick was like that when he got evicted. He wouldn't go near them and when asked he just said 'no I'm not bothered about all that'.
TheTrader78
06-09-2013
Originally Posted by crisis3:
“My theory is he's a hologram and they can only afford to switch him on a couple of hours a day with the excessive costs of electricity these days.”

Milhause
06-09-2013
Originally Posted by Halki:
“Ditto my daughter, who is 20. She mostly hates hugs. I get the occasional one, few people do! It's very typical of somebody with Aspergers. Still, the ones she gives mean a lot. ”

Yes, it means so much.

That's why, if Abz is on the spectrum, it is a big thing all the things he has done.

My son has a friend with Aspergers and his school tried to get him moved.
snickypoo
06-09-2013
Originally Posted by Milhause:
“Yes and when ignorant (that is, as in uneducated) people like the OP are discriminating/dissing/beating up people like your sons you will thank the Lord that there are people better educated, like me, to know better. ”

I am actually agreeing with you! It is commendable that you have taken the time to educate yourself about the condition, and more needs to be done to raise awareness about this condition, however, I dont think that the OP was being ignorant, maybe just never come across Aspergers before, Abz being in CBB should be used as a way of enlightening people about this condition, I honestly dont think that pouncing on people and calling them uneducated and ignorant is helpful. There is more than one way of skinning a rabbit!
snickypoo
06-09-2013
Originally Posted by monkey13:
“Bravo! I actually knew nothing about the condition and I have no idea how your children's condition effects everyday life for you. But I do feel a little more enlightened thanks to your post.”

Thank you Monkey
chavet
06-09-2013
Originally Posted by Milhause:
“Yes and when ignorant (that is, as in uneducated) people like the OP are discriminating/dissing/beating up people like your sons you will thank the Lord that there are people better educated, like me, to know better. ”

Is this a wind up? I really can't believe that, in light of what you said the other day, you are presuming to lecture people on ignorance.
Shadyfish
06-09-2013
Originally Posted by Halki:
“Ditto my daughter, who is 20. She mostly hates hugs. I get the occasional one, few people do! It's very typical of somebody with Aspergers. Still, the ones she gives mean a lot. ”

And by that i mean people who, like chameleons change their views according to the power change in the house.
Someone with Asbergers CANNOT do that, whatever happens with bitchiness and groups around them, they will stick to their opinion and belief in their own truth. If the "group" then isolates them for that, then that's just the way it is.
It's much more important to stand by their reality and tell the truth whatever that truth is.
Sorry i think i lost the link i was replying to.
mickmercer
06-09-2013
Originally Posted by Shadyfish:
“yes it's all about raising awareness about Asbergers and other "invisible" illnesses. maybe not the right forum but i'm going to say it anyway. Those of us who have life experience of how mental ill health, alcoholism, drug abuse etc. affects life and families are not easily fooled by the "acting out" of people who will do anything to get publicity.”

Sorry, I don't understand your post and may have missed the point. Are you saying Abz is 'acting out'? He hardly does anything, so can hardly be acting out, surely? Not hugging people hardly qualifies as an important or dramatic gesture.
Shadyfish
06-09-2013
[quote=mickmercer;68499692]Sorry, I don't understand your post and may have missed the point. Are you saying Abz is 'acting out'? He hardly does anything, so can hardly be acting out, surely? Sorry, I was trying to say that he has to be strong in his convictions to stand back and not follow the herd who are "acting out". And the original post criticised him for this.
Shadyfish
06-09-2013
Originally Posted by mickmercer:
“Sorry, I don't understand your post and may have missed the point. Are you saying Abz is 'acting out'? He hardly does anything, so can hardly be acting out, surely? Not hugging people hardly qualifies as an important or dramatic gesture.”

Sorry
Sweet_Princess
06-09-2013
Maybe he just doesnt like hugging
Shadyfish
07-09-2013
Originally Posted by Shadyfish:
“Sorry”

Sorry trouble with internet.
I am saying the opposite.
Abz does not, apart from the accent that he brought in,change, act out a character or bitch to establish himself within the house or with the public.
He seems to stay true to himself.
What I do find interesting is that, on CH5 anyway, you never see anyone challenging him, in fact you never see much of him
Whether the voting public like this or not is up to them and he will accept whatever.
Milhause
07-09-2013
Originally Posted by mickmercer:
“Sorry, I don't understand your post and may have missed the point. Are you saying Abz is 'acting out'? He hardly does anything, so can hardly be acting out, surely? Not hugging people hardly qualifies as an important or dramatic gesture.”

I can see what SF meant by acting out...even in the real world all the air kissing and faux affection is a shame. Abz doesn't do that, and I am liking him more because of that.

Nothing worse than insincerity.
Shadyfish
07-09-2013
Grasshopper - always walk quietly through life. But carry a big stick, just in case!
Shadyfish
07-09-2013
Thank you, in my own shambly way I am trying to say that I admire Abz as being the most honest person in there. Will the GB public prefer him over the ones acting out and not being themselves, I doubt it but istill hope.lolx
vpower
07-09-2013
I can understand his not hugging. Only people I ever want to hug are my three boys but not all the time My parents and siblings have maybe gotten 1 to 5 hugs during my lifetime (am 44) My very best friend has gotten 2 hugs of me.

I've never been diagnosed with any condition but just appreciate and protect my own space and only hug when i feel it's really necesary
mickmercer
07-09-2013
Originally Posted by Shadyfish:
“Sorry trouble with internet.
I am saying the opposite.
Abz does not, apart from the accent that he brought in,change, act out a character or bitch to establish himself within the house or with the public.
He seems to stay true to himself.
What I do find interesting is that, on CH5 anyway, you never see anyone challenging him, in fact you never see much of him
Whether the voting public like this or not is up to them and he will accept whatever.”

Right, I get what you mean now.

I don't see why any of them would challenge him. They like him. I think they still find his natural reserve a trifle baffling. Only Dustin seemed to 'get' him.
Shadyfish
07-09-2013
I totally agree with you. I don't have a problem with contact as long as it is appropriate. My Mum can hug me, the window cleaner can't. I stayed at the Premier Inn with a Social worker. But she is my sister and my cousins stayed too. Having close bodily contact with anyone is the choice of any adult who has the mental capacity to make that decision. If you have capacity it is wrong for anyone else to even comment. It's called choice. And no way would i feel obliged to kiss and hug some stranger who was bitching about me last week and has just lost the game and is standing there saying, love you all! I would honestly feel, it's a game and I just beat you.,
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