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A bit confused over Ronnie's release
So Alfie doesn't know Ronnie's coming out and isn't happy about it, Kat's just found out as well.
Yet a few months ago, Kat had a restraining order put on her (which seems to be totally forgotten as she is
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I don't know if the writers just forgot or not but is this another stupid retcon? Honestly, it seems as if they are making it up as they go along? |
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I think you've answered your own question, they are going back on what they previously said to accommodate the storyline to make it plausible for Ronnie to live back on the square, I guess we are to believe Kat gives her permission perhaps for her to stay in walford and Alfie is just a born liar and user when its concerning Roxy.
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I think you've answered your own question, they are going back on what they previously said to accommodate the storyline to make it plausible for Ronnie to live back on the square, I guess we are to believe Kat gives her permission perhaps for her to stay in walford and Alfie is just a born liar and user when its concerning Roxy.
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Another thing is she was sent down for 3 years and is being released after 2
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Another thing is she was sent down for 3 years and is being released after 2
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Alfie just needs to back off! That's Roxy sister, he shouldn't make her choose.
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I always wondered how they got past the restraining order- obviously couldn't find an imaginative way so pretend it never happened? What a way to run a soap!
Her writers are taking us for a fool, they have no vision what so ever, and shes even worse for giving the scripts the go ahead, something tells me that she just never reads them! |
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well we all know the conclusion to the story anyway so its just a dramatic (by that I mean unrealistic) way to get there (Kat and Alfie reunion)
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So, they brought in a reference to Ronnie about to be released off screen before they planned to ask Womack back and then when she agreed they've had to change the story?
Bit daft. |
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The whole thing of Ronnie being able to come back to the square has confused me too as I remember when it was first mentioned about her being up for release Kat said she had been asked if there were any conditions she wanted and she said the only thing she had asked was for her not to be allowed to return to the area.
Unless I've missed a scene where Kat has dropped this request I don't know what's changed.
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I thought what was most unrealistic was Kat going on about "having Ronnie"
Ohh errr and then forgiving her at the last moment WTF B*tch?
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I can see a lot of people throwing the towel in with EastEnders due to Ronnie's return. It's pure fantasy with retcons, implausibilities, suspensions of belief and desperation. In fact it puts me in mind of another ill advised comeback from about this time 10 years ago - and that one didn't require half as many contrivances as Ronnie's return does.
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Another thing is she was sent down for 3 years and is being released after 2
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3 years 9 times out of 10 means 1.5 years in prison and 1.5 years on license.
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I can see a lot of people throwing the towel in with EastEnders due to Ronnie's return. It's pure fantasy with retcons, implausibilities, suspensions of belief and desperation. In fact it puts me in mind of another ill advised comeback from about this time 10 years ago - and that one didn't require half as many contrivances as Ronnie's return does.
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The whole thing of Ronnie being able to come back to the square has confused me too as I remember when it was first mentioned about her being up for release Kat said she had been asked if there were any conditions she wanted and she said the only thing she had asked was for her not to be allowed to return to the area.
Unless I've missed a scene where Kat has dropped this request I don't know what's changed. |
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It would be very unlikely that Kat would be successful in filing for a termination of the restraining order. It's fairly uncommon, as it as viewed as a waste of time.
It also depends whether Kat was granted a no contact order. In this case, it would be extremely unlikely that Ronnie would be allowed to go anywhere near the Square at all. If the court order is based solely on distance, then as long as Ronnie does not breach the specified distance, she is potentially free to go where she wants, including back to the Square. The tricky part is the fact that Kat invites Ronnie to stay with her. In this case, they could both be breaching the court order, Ronnie, for breaching the conditions of the order, and Kat, for displaying frivolity in regards to an order issued by a court of law. But it is possible for Ronnie to be on the Square, however it all depends on the nature of the order granted, and I can't remember if the details were ever stated. |
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I think you've answered your own question, they are going back on what they previously said to accommodate the storyline to make it plausible for Ronnie to live back on the square, I guess we are to believe Kat gives her permission perhaps for her to stay in walford and Alfie is just a born liar and user when its concerning Roxy.
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I just sense the whole purpose of ronnie's comeback is to complete the kat moon propping tour. First they have her forgive her
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It's not plausible no matter what - this is completely unrealistic and just below aliens landing in the square. Never in a million years would Ronnie be allowed by authorities to live near the minor she abducted and endangered.
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If anything this storyline cements once and for all that EastEnders has moved far away from its roots and can no longer be considered realistic in any sense of the word. Never in a million years would this storyline have come to pass in the old days. It flies in the face of everything EastEnders used to stand for. Ronnie has been an incredibly destructive character for EastEnders. The far fetched tragic heroine nonsense, the baby swap and now this ill conceived return. This character requires far too many dramatic conceits and has damaged the credibility of the show. The sense of realism EastEnders used to have is long gone. It's not solely down to Ronnie but she's the worst culprit.
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I just sense the whole purpose of ronnie's comeback is to complete the kat moon propping tour. First they have her forgive her
I was once as ignorant as you in regards to such matters but I was educated about all these cold hard facts from some bird called Lorraine I met in a pub in Elstree a couple of weeks ago. Pissed as a fart, she was; said it was her work leaving-do or something. |
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You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. It is common practice for the mothers of abducted children to invite the abductor to live with themselves; the biological father and the child in question upon release. Perpetrators of such crimes also rarely face any ignominy or hostility from others and often reintegrate seamlessly into society; especially if they choose to return to the tight-knit community in which the crime was committed. All in all it is considered a rather harmless jape barely worthy of a slap on the wrist, a jape which may draw the occasional discerning remark or raised eyebrow, but such actions are usually meant purely in lighthearted jest.
I was once as ignorant as you in regards to such matters but I was educated about all these cold hard facts from some bird called Lorraine I met in a pub in Elstree a couple of weeks ago. Pissed as a fart, she was; said it was her work leaving-do or something. What the hell are they thinking? They wrote Ronnie into a very dark corner and shouldn't have brought her back as a regular character. The very notion of such a character being pushed to the forefront of the series is disgusting. Now we have the morally depraved Brannings and the manipulative child snatcher as the main stars. It's more than a bit distasteful. |
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I think the writing will be geared towards making Ronnie the main victim. And the characters who won't be pleased to see her back will be portrayed as narrow-minded, unsympathetic, resentful with a lynch-mob mentality.
What's also interesting is Kat being so "mature" about Ronnie. I wonder where that Kat was when she was enjoying bullying Tamwar 5 minutes ago |
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I think the writing will be geared towards making Ronnie the main victim. And the characters who won't be pleased to see her back will be portrayed as narrow-minded, unsympathetic, resentful with a lynch-mob mentality.
What's also interesting is Kat being so "mature" about Ronnie. I wonder where that Kat was when she was enjoying bullying Tamwar 5 minutes ago |
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Unless I've missed a scene where Kat has dropped this request I don't know what's changed.
Ohh errr and then forgiving her at the last moment WTF B*tch?