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A bit confused over Ronnie's release
So Alfie doesn't know Ronnie's coming out and isn't happy about it, Kat's just found out as well.
Yet a few months ago, Kat had a restraining order put on her (which seems to be totally forgotten as she is
I don't know if the writers just forgot or not but is this another stupid retcon? Honestly, it seems as if they are making it up as they go along?
Yet a few months ago, Kat had a restraining order put on her (which seems to be totally forgotten as she is
allowing Ronnie to live with her
, Alfie's moaning about Roxy never telling him (he even said to Roxy that he didn't care Ronnie was coming out! That he knew whose sister he was dating!)I don't know if the writers just forgot or not but is this another stupid retcon? Honestly, it seems as if they are making it up as they go along?
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I always wondered how they got past the restraining order- obviously couldn't find an imaginative way so pretend it never happened? What a way to run a soap!
Some people are released after serving less than half their sentence, a year isn't to unrealistic in soapworld.
I hope pretending goes away with Lorraine whats-her-name!
Her writers are taking us for a fool, they have no vision what so ever, and shes even worse for giving the scripts the go ahead, something tells me that she just never reads them!
Bit daft.
3 years 9 times out of 10 means 1.5 years in prison and 1.5 years on license.
In order to be released on parole Ronnie would need a rehabilitation project and accommodations. People are not released on parole and free to do whatever they like. She would not be allowed anywhere near albert square and near her victims that's for sure.
Kat must have changed her mind and allowed Ronnie to live in Walford. After all, a restraining order doesn't evaporate into thin air.
The flimsiest explanation I can come up with is that when Ronnie's sentence was extended for bad behaviour all the conditions etc were disregarded and her current release (which Kat wasnt notified about and had to ask Roxy for exact details) has a new set of conditions that says she can do whatever she wants.
It also depends whether Kat was granted a no contact order. In this case, it would be extremely unlikely that Ronnie would be allowed to go anywhere near the Square at all. If the court order is based solely on distance, then as long as Ronnie does not breach the specified distance, she is potentially free to go where she wants, including back to the Square.
The tricky part is the fact that Kat invites Ronnie to stay with her. In this case, they could both be breaching the court order, Ronnie, for breaching the conditions of the order, and Kat, for displaying frivolity in regards to an order issued by a court of law.
But it is possible for Ronnie to be on the Square, however it all depends on the nature of the order granted, and I can't remember if the details were ever stated.
It's not plausible no matter what - this is completely unrealistic and just below aliens landing in the square. Never in a million years would Ronnie be allowed by authorities to live near the minor she abducted and endangered.
To be fair she never endangered him
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. It is common practice for the mothers of abducted children to invite the abductor to live with themselves; the biological father and the child in question upon release. Perpetrators of such crimes also rarely face any ignominy or hostility from others and often reintegrate seamlessly into society; especially if they choose to return to the tight-knit community in which the crime was committed. All in all it is considered a rather harmless jape barely worthy of a slap on the wrist, a jape which may draw the occasional discerning remark or raised eyebrow, but such actions are usually meant purely in lighthearted jest.
I was once as ignorant as you in regards to such matters but I was educated about all these cold hard facts from some bird called Lorraine I met in a pub in Elstree a couple of weeks ago. Pissed as a fart, she was; said it was her work leaving-do or something.
The entire scenario surrounding her return is absurd. They've asked us to suspend belief on many occasions in recent years but they've gone too far with this one in my opinion. I don't think the character of Ronnie will be done any favours with the child snatcher tag being attached to her going forwards. To bring it up all the time means she can never move on but to cast it aside and only mention it occasionally makes it look like child abduction is being lessened as a serious crime.
What the hell are they thinking? They wrote Ronnie into a very dark corner and shouldn't have brought her back as a regular character. The very notion of such a character being pushed to the forefront of the series is disgusting. Now we have the morally depraved Brannings and the manipulative child snatcher as the main stars. It's more than a bit distasteful.
What's also interesting is Kat being so "mature" about Ronnie. I wonder where that Kat was when she was enjoying bullying Tamwar 5 minutes ago :rolleyes::rolleyes:
The thing is though, with the exception of Ronnie's super fans, isn't that how most of the viewers will react to Ronnie? The baby swap was the most controversial storyline they ever did and received much criticism from viewers. If they continue to show the other characters as unsympathetic as they have been with Alfie recently then they're effectively sticking 2 fingers up at the viewers. It wasn't enough to simply end the baby swap storyline. They should have ended the character of Ronnie too since she's the one who snatched the baby. As I said, I think this may be the straw that breaks the camel's back for quite a lot of viewers.
Things are not black and white and each case is different especially in the legal system in England; there is case law. Each case is discussed on its merit. Kidnapping is a broad term. One kidnaps, tortures, exploits and murders a child and is still kidnap just like something similar to what Ronnie did is kidnap too. However the law considers each crime separately, circumstances, details, and the harm caused. These factors will determine the gravity of the crime and the punishable prison sentence as well as the terms of release.
Ronnie was not meant to be portrayed as evil; she and Kat were both victims and in soapland she got her punishment, when many get away with crimes time and time again and never get any comeback for it either.
Ronnie is coming back, this is fiction, EE has stopped portraying real life and it is not a documentary. I bang on myself about it coming up with absurd things; I even stopped watching it after the baby swap debacle.
There are times however when one has to suspend disbelief for the sake of drama and fiction and whether one can tolerate it or not determines whether one watches it or doesn’t.