TBH it's not the first time I've heard an actor/actress say things about "reality" personalities, I guess they feel with all the reality TV that these persona's take work away from trained actors & actresses.

I remember when I was at university I worked with an out of work actress who was very harsh on people she had worked with who got jobs without experience because they knew a director or someone.

Definitely Charlotte.

Vicky really told it how it is. Good for her.

Everything has to do with it. She tries to portray this sex image but utterly fails.

And it wasn't so much reality tv Vicky looked down on. It was more of the sort of reality tv "star" she is!

Ah well, as a young straight woman, it's Charlotte's job to be attractive to random men, you see...no, sorry, I tried to see the relevance but failed too. As a young, straight woman it's Charlotte's job to be a paragon of what Joe public thinks young straight women should be like..,nope, sorry, failed again. Ok, last go: As a young straight woman, Charlotte has no right to any kind of self determination and is subject to the judgement of every random commentator. Sadly, i think I got it right that time.

Think you just described Charlotte, pretentious little brat, if the truth hits her in the face, she throws a hissy fit, she can't argue reasonably.

And Vicky's an acTOR darlings! The argument was supposedly about HMs being treated unequally. In the house, I don't necessarily agree that's happened. But Charlotte's 'bitch' comment was about Vickys conduct in that argument, Vicky's 'Geordie slag, that's all you are' came from something much deeper and nastier within Vicky, She's a horrible little person. I don't see her as a greatly talented actress but even if she was of the calibre that she seems to think she is, since when was 'I'm talented so I must be right' a legitimate argument?

She doesn't portray herself as being sexy or sexually attractive, she just talks a lot about sex and in a rather crude manner at that.


No, it was both.

Nope, definitely Vicky. Charlotte pretends nothing and invoking your opponents sex life in an argument is not exaclty reasonable in my world. Your mileage may vary.

Nope. Look at the way she said everything. Vicky is an actress on a reality tv show. She is in the same show as Charlotte but she has much more class and dignity about her than Charlotte ever will.

I did. Vicky derided Charlotte’s general behaviour and how she talked about it. She also specifically derided her as a "Reality TV star", using that very phrase.


In my initial post which you took umbrage to, my criticism of the pair of them was about the specific argument shown tonight. If Vicky had stuck to the argument at hand or even to Charlotte's OTT reaction, I would have been less critical of her. Her character assassination of Charlotte was unnecessary and irrelevant to both of those things. Just because you happen to agree with its content doesn’t make it any less of a character assassination or any more relevant.

I also think it was people like yourself she most probably had in mind when she started speaking to the cameras once she was on her own outside. A case of preaching to the converted.

same here

Vicky , no contest, she put the spoilt brat in her place.