Wow £549 for 16GB Iphone 5S bugget Iphone 5C £469

alanwarwic · 13-09-2013, 16:49

That glass back bit of it is.

Also meant as a useful warning to would be buyers. The N4 is at least as needy of a 'bumper' as those iPhones of old.

Zack06 · 13-09-2013, 17:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Well it is a silly copycat impractical feature of the iPhones but actually done worse.

Not sure how it's a "silly copycat" when the Nexus 4 has the crystal reflection layer underneath the glass. It looks very premium. Glass is glass, it will break if put under any pressure.

Calling it a "fashion toy" whilst insinuating that the iPhone is somehow better is a bit silly in itself considering the Nexus 4 is more powerful than the iPhone 5/5C.

jabbamk1 · 13-09-2013, 17:07

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Originally Posted by enapace

Three are offering it around the same sort of price. £46 per month and £50 up front. Think I prefer Three's option as at least then you getting unlimited data. How much Data you getting with vodafone for 47? Noticed that EE are offering it at £46 with 10GB of data and £60 upfront. Think even though those are a little more up front you getting benefits. Three you getting unlimited data and on EE you getting a massive LTE coverage already and a good amount of data.

You're kidding right!!!! This is the iPhone 5C. It is ridiculously overpriced for what is essentially a rebadged iPhone 5. And you can get the iPhone 5 32GB with a much more premium finish for £35pm+£129 upfront.

I honestly am dreading to see the iPhone 5s on Three with it's £99 upfront cost and the offerings from other networks as well. If the iPhone 5c 16GB is £41pm on the one plan then that means the 5s could be something in the mid to high £40's + £99 upfront. ridiculous.

enapace · 13-09-2013, 17:12

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Originally Posted by jabbamk1

You're kidding right!!!! This is the iPhone 5C. It is ridiculously overpriced for what is essentially a rebadged iPhone 5. And you can get the iPhone 5 32GB with a much more premium finish for £35pm+£129 upfront.

I honestly am dreading to see the iPhone 5s on Three with it's £99 upfront cost and the offerings from other networks as well. If the iPhone 5c 16GB is £41pm on the one plan then that means the 5s could be something in the mid to high £40's + £99 upfront. ridiculous.

Check out the follow up post a couple further down I said it was expensive as hell but I think Three and EE are offering better deals then Vodafone and O2. Some people may choose the 5C over the 5 simply for the 800MHz support.

jabbamk1 · 13-09-2013, 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by enapace

Check out the follow up post a couple further down I said it was expensive as hell but I think Three and EE are offering better deals then Vodafone and O2. Some people may choose the 5C over the 5 simply for the 800MHz support.

Some people might as well just buy any other 4G phone....

What's really sad is that people are going to sign up to these expensive contracts in droves. I knew Three were putting their iPhone 5s prices sky high but i didn't expect the iPhone 5c to be high as well.

Faust · 13-09-2013, 17:33

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Originally Posted by pwuz

You totally fail to get it, the N4 is a third the price but a higher spec.

Yes and? Correct me if I'm wrong but I seriously doubt Apple are banging on your door demanding you buy their product instead of the N4. The world is full of products that have a higher price with a lower spec than a competitors. The consumer has a choice which products they buy.

I think it is you that doesn't understand business.

I think the reason this thread has gone on and on is because a lot of people thought they were going to get a chance to buy into the Apple eco system with a cheap iPhone. Now they have found that not to be the case those same people have basically thrown their toys out of their prams.

enapace · 13-09-2013, 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by jabbamk1

Some people might as well just buy any other 4G phone....

What's really sad is that people are going to sign up to these expensive contracts in droves. I knew Three were putting their iPhone 5s prices sky high but i didn't expect the iPhone 5c to be high as well.

Agree honestly would pick the 5C at the prices they going for but can imagine they will sell simply because they are apple devices.

alanwarwic · 13-09-2013, 17:42

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Originally Posted by Zack06

...It looks very premium. Glass is glass, it will break if put under any pressure.

I have always said plastic is more practical. A glass back is fashion toy stuff.

In this aspect the 5c is technically better, but yes, some do see the glass back as premium.

kidspud · 13-09-2013, 17:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by enapace

Agree honestly would pick the 5C at the prices they going for but can imagine they will sell simply because they are apple devices.

Despite what some claim, the iPhone 5 is a highly desirable phone for young/mid teens. I would imagine the 5c would be attractive to this market.

jabbamk1 · 13-09-2013, 18:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by enapace

Agree honestly would pick the 5C at the prices they going for but can imagine they will sell simply because they are apple devices.

Whats funny is that the prices i was told about the new iPhone turned out to be 100% correct.... at Carphone Warehouse...

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps478da7e7.jpg

I've been told 5s is £99 upfront from Three as well. And according to what i was told before it's only going to be £2pm more than the iPhone 5c (told this after the PM above). Weird how Three's prices are so different to what i was originally told yet CPW is bang on.

Take what i said about 5s having a £99 upfront cost and £2pm more with a pinch of salt.

spang · 13-09-2013, 18:21

One thing I don't understand is the new motion chip, M7 or whatever, which monitors steps etc. Isn't this just the same as the Noom Walk app, which doesn't require a special chip and seems to work on most phones anyway? (although it may not be available on iphone.)

Link to App

I recently installed it on my mother's y300 as she is away for 4 weeks and her old fitbit probably won't hold that amount of days, and it's surprisingly accurate, the fitbit got about 17,500 steps and the phone about 16,500, but she doesn't carry the phone round the house, which she does with the fitbit, and it only uses 2% of the battery each day.

I know it's not as slick as what Apple will produce but it proves it can already be done.

I also wonder how fitbit, jawbone up and Nike will feel about this, as it makes their products pretty much redundant on Apple.

Nerdy, boring pedometer post, but like I said I've been looking into it for my mother over the last week or so.

jabbamk1 · 13-09-2013, 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by spang

One thing I don't understand is the new motion chip, M7 or whatever, which monitors steps etc. Isn't this just the same as the Noom Walk app, which doesn't require a special chip and seems to work on most phones anyway? (although it may not be available on iphone.)

Link to App

I recently installed it on my mother's y300 as she is away for 4 weeks and her old fitbit probably won't hold that amount of days, and it's surprisingly accurate, the fitbit got about 17,500 steps and the phone about 16,500, but she doesn't carry the phone round the house, which she does with the fitbit, and it only uses 2% of the battery each day.

I know it's not as slick as what Apple will produce but it proves it can already be done.

I also wonder how fitbit, jawbone up and Nike will feel about this, as it makes their products pretty much redundant on Apple.

Nerdy, boring pedometer post, but like I said I've been looking into it for my mother over the last week or so.

The M7 is not a new chip in the broader sense.

This type of functionality has been done before.

alanwarwic · 13-09-2013, 21:44

Considering Broadcom add passive wifi location stuff in their chips, its a fair bet this is made by Broadcom too .It could even be an existing chip renamed or one custom adapted/designed for Apple.

enapace · 13-09-2013, 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by jabbamk1

Whats funny is that the prices i was told about the new iPhone turned out to be 100% correct.... at Carphone Warehouse...

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps478da7e7.jpg

I've been told 5s is £99 upfront from Three as well. And according to what i was told before it's only going to be £2pm more than the iPhone 5c (told this after the PM above). Weird how Three's prices are so different to what i was originally told yet CPW is bang on.

Take what i said about 5s having a £99 upfront cost and £2pm more with a pinch of salt.

I think someone on EE would have to be crazy to choose 5C over 5S as they are exact same price a month just more upfront.

General Lunacy · 13-09-2013, 22:15

Three have tariffs up for the C model now.

http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Devi...16&colour=Blue

Quite the 'budget' device, lol. Sorry if this is old news.

Zack06 · 13-09-2013, 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidspud

Despite what some claim, the iPhone 5 is a highly desirable phone for young/mid teens. I would imagine the 5c would be attractive to this market.

I think this article raises some interesting points: http://www.forbes.com/sites/larissaf...cool-to-teens/

Nowadays, a lot of kids/teens see the iPhone along with Blackberry as common and associated with chavs. I suspect that's part of the reason why Samsung's smartphone sales have increased so dramatically recently, particularly in the UK.

General Lunacy · 13-09-2013, 22:27

Wow. As popular and 'unoriginal' as an iPhone is, I never thought of it as a chav-y.

But then i'm not a kid/teen. Still hard to believe though, it's a classy phone imo.

flagpole · 13-09-2013, 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Lunacy

Three have tariffs up for the C model now.

http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Devi...16&colour=Blue

Quite the 'budget' device, lol. Sorry if this is old news.

Eye watering isn't it.

flagpole · 13-09-2013, 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Lunacy

Wow. As popular and 'unoriginal' as an iPhone is, I never thought of it as a chav-y.

But then i'm not a kid/teen. Still hard to believe though, it's a classy phone imo.

The kids are fickle.

konebyvax · 13-09-2013, 22:55

Just ask Chesney Hawkes...

flagpole · 13-09-2013, 23:21

Why is the five so much cheaper than the 5c?

General Lunacy · 13-09-2013, 23:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by flagpole

Why is the five so much cheaper than the 5c?

The camera on the 5c has an extra pixel.

jabbamk1 · 13-09-2013, 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by flagpole

Why is the five so much cheaper than the 5c?

Because the iPhone 5c comes with a premium plastic design.

konebyvax · 13-09-2013, 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by jabbamk1

Because the iPhone 5c comes with a premium plastic design.

Ceramic-like, I've read

jabbamk1 · 13-09-2013, 23:31

BREAKING!!!!

Apple have released an official statement which explains why the iPhone 5c is more expensive than the iPhone 5 and why the iPhone 5s will be even more expensive on contract. See the full statement below-

http://abload.de/img/angry-joe-give-me-mon66zid.gif

13-09-2013, 16:49	#326
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	That glass back bit of it is. Also meant as a useful warning to would be buyers. The N4 is at least as needy of a 'bumper' as those iPhones of old.

13-09-2013, 17:04	#327
Zack06 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 27,438	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Well it is a silly copycat impractical feature of the iPhones but actually done worse. Not sure how it's a "silly copycat" when the Nexus 4 has the crystal reflection layer underneath the glass. It looks very premium. Glass is glass, it will break if put under any pressure. Calling it a "fashion toy" whilst insinuating that the iPhone is somehow better is a bit silly in itself considering the Nexus 4 is more powerful than the iPhone 5/5C.

13-09-2013, 17:07	#328
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Quote: Originally Posted by enapace Three are offering it around the same sort of price. £46 per month and £50 up front. Think I prefer Three's option as at least then you getting unlimited data. How much Data you getting with vodafone for 47? Noticed that EE are offering it at £46 with 10GB of data and £60 upfront. Think even though those are a little more up front you getting benefits. Three you getting unlimited data and on EE you getting a massive LTE coverage already and a good amount of data. You're kidding right!!!! This is the iPhone 5C. It is ridiculously overpriced for what is essentially a rebadged iPhone 5. And you can get the iPhone 5 32GB with a much more premium finish for £35pm+£129 upfront. I honestly am dreading to see the iPhone 5s on Three with it's £99 upfront cost and the offerings from other networks as well. If the iPhone 5c 16GB is £41pm on the one plan then that means the 5s could be something in the mid to high £40's + £99 upfront. ridiculous.

13-09-2013, 17:12	#329
enapace Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4,249	Quote: Originally Posted by jabbamk1 You're kidding right!!!! This is the iPhone 5C. It is ridiculously overpriced for what is essentially a rebadged iPhone 5. And you can get the iPhone 5 32GB with a much more premium finish for £35pm+£129 upfront. I honestly am dreading to see the iPhone 5s on Three with it's £99 upfront cost and the offerings from other networks as well. If the iPhone 5c 16GB is £41pm on the one plan then that means the 5s could be something in the mid to high £40's + £99 upfront. ridiculous. Check out the follow up post a couple further down I said it was expensive as hell but I think Three and EE are offering better deals then Vodafone and O2. Some people may choose the 5C over the 5 simply for the 800MHz support.

13-09-2013, 17:16	#330
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Quote: Originally Posted by enapace Check out the follow up post a couple further down I said it was expensive as hell but I think Three and EE are offering better deals then Vodafone and O2. Some people may choose the 5C over the 5 simply for the 800MHz support. Some people might as well just buy any other 4G phone.... What's really sad is that people are going to sign up to these expensive contracts in droves. I knew Three were putting their iPhone 5s prices sky high but i didn't expect the iPhone 5c to be high as well.

13-09-2013, 17:33	#331
Faust Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: UK Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by pwuz You totally fail to get it, the N4 is a third the price but a higher spec. Yes and? Correct me if I'm wrong but I seriously doubt Apple are banging on your door demanding you buy their product instead of the N4. The world is full of products that have a higher price with a lower spec than a competitors. The consumer has a choice which products they buy. I think it is you that doesn't understand business. I think the reason this thread has gone on and on is because a lot of people thought they were going to get a chance to buy into the Apple eco system with a cheap iPhone. Now they have found that not to be the case those same people have basically thrown their toys out of their prams.

13-09-2013, 17:34	#332
enapace Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4,249	Quote: Originally Posted by jabbamk1 Some people might as well just buy any other 4G phone.... What's really sad is that people are going to sign up to these expensive contracts in droves. I knew Three were putting their iPhone 5s prices sky high but i didn't expect the iPhone 5c to be high as well. Agree honestly would pick the 5C at the prices they going for but can imagine they will sell simply because they are apple devices.

13-09-2013, 17:42	#333
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by Zack06 ...It looks very premium. Glass is glass, it will break if put under any pressure. I have always said plastic is more practical. A glass back is fashion toy stuff. In this aspect the 5c is technically better, but yes, some do see the glass back as premium.

13-09-2013, 17:43	#334
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by enapace Agree honestly would pick the 5C at the prices they going for but can imagine they will sell simply because they are apple devices. Despite what some claim, the iPhone 5 is a highly desirable phone for young/mid teens. I would imagine the 5c would be attractive to this market.

13-09-2013, 18:00	#335
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Quote: Originally Posted by enapace Agree honestly would pick the 5C at the prices they going for but can imagine they will sell simply because they are apple devices. Whats funny is that the prices i was told about the new iPhone turned out to be 100% correct.... at Carphone Warehouse... http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps478da7e7.jpg I've been told 5s is £99 upfront from Three as well. And according to what i was told before it's only going to be £2pm more than the iPhone 5c (told this after the PM above). Weird how Three's prices are so different to what i was originally told yet CPW is bang on. Take what i said about 5s having a £99 upfront cost and £2pm more with a pinch of salt.

13-09-2013, 18:21	#336
spang Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 501	One thing I don't understand is the new motion chip, M7 or whatever, which monitors steps etc. Isn't this just the same as the Noom Walk app, which doesn't require a special chip and seems to work on most phones anyway? (although it may not be available on iphone.) Link to App I recently installed it on my mother's y300 as she is away for 4 weeks and her old fitbit probably won't hold that amount of days, and it's surprisingly accurate, the fitbit got about 17,500 steps and the phone about 16,500, but she doesn't carry the phone round the house, which she does with the fitbit, and it only uses 2% of the battery each day. I know it's not as slick as what Apple will produce but it proves it can already be done. I also wonder how fitbit, jawbone up and Nike will feel about this, as it makes their products pretty much redundant on Apple. Nerdy, boring pedometer post, but like I said I've been looking into it for my mother over the last week or so.

13-09-2013, 18:29	#337
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Quote: Originally Posted by spang One thing I don't understand is the new motion chip, M7 or whatever, which monitors steps etc. Isn't this just the same as the Noom Walk app, which doesn't require a special chip and seems to work on most phones anyway? (although it may not be available on iphone.) Link to App I recently installed it on my mother's y300 as she is away for 4 weeks and her old fitbit probably won't hold that amount of days, and it's surprisingly accurate, the fitbit got about 17,500 steps and the phone about 16,500, but she doesn't carry the phone round the house, which she does with the fitbit, and it only uses 2% of the battery each day. I know it's not as slick as what Apple will produce but it proves it can already be done. I also wonder how fitbit, jawbone up and Nike will feel about this, as it makes their products pretty much redundant on Apple. Nerdy, boring pedometer post, but like I said I've been looking into it for my mother over the last week or so. The M7 is not a new chip in the broader sense. This type of functionality has been done before.

13-09-2013, 21:44	#338
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Considering Broadcom add passive wifi location stuff in their chips, its a fair bet this is made by Broadcom too .It could even be an existing chip renamed or one custom adapted/designed for Apple.

13-09-2013, 22:13	#339
enapace Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4,249	Quote: Originally Posted by jabbamk1 Whats funny is that the prices i was told about the new iPhone turned out to be 100% correct.... at Carphone Warehouse... http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps478da7e7.jpg I've been told 5s is £99 upfront from Three as well. And according to what i was told before it's only going to be £2pm more than the iPhone 5c (told this after the PM above). Weird how Three's prices are so different to what i was originally told yet CPW is bang on. Take what i said about 5s having a £99 upfront cost and £2pm more with a pinch of salt. I think someone on EE would have to be crazy to choose 5C over 5S as they are exact same price a month just more upfront.

13-09-2013, 22:15	#340
General Lunacy Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: The Sticks Posts: 711	Three have tariffs up for the C model now. http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Devi...16&colour=Blue Quite the 'budget' device, lol. Sorry if this is old news.

13-09-2013, 22:22	#341
Zack06 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 27,438	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud Despite what some claim, the iPhone 5 is a highly desirable phone for young/mid teens. I would imagine the 5c would be attractive to this market. I think this article raises some interesting points: http://www.forbes.com/sites/larissaf...cool-to-teens/ Nowadays, a lot of kids/teens see the iPhone along with Blackberry as common and associated with chavs. I suspect that's part of the reason why Samsung's smartphone sales have increased so dramatically recently, particularly in the UK.

13-09-2013, 22:27	#342
General Lunacy Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: The Sticks Posts: 711	Wow. As popular and 'unoriginal' as an iPhone is, I never thought of it as a chav-y. But then i'm not a kid/teen. Still hard to believe though, it's a classy phone imo.

13-09-2013, 22:28	#343
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	Quote: Originally Posted by General Lunacy Three have tariffs up for the C model now. http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Devi...16&colour=Blue Quite the 'budget' device, lol. Sorry if this is old news. Eye watering isn't it.

13-09-2013, 22:34	#344
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	Quote: Originally Posted by General Lunacy Wow. As popular and 'unoriginal' as an iPhone is, I never thought of it as a chav-y. But then i'm not a kid/teen. Still hard to believe though, it's a classy phone imo. The kids are fickle.

13-09-2013, 22:55	#345
konebyvax Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ignoringtrollsville Posts: 7,875	Just ask Chesney Hawkes...

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Wow £549 for 16GB Iphone 5S bugget Iphone 5C £469

13-09-2013, 23:21	#346
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	Why is the five so much cheaper than the 5c?

13-09-2013, 23:22	#347
General Lunacy Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: The Sticks Posts: 711	Quote: Originally Posted by flagpole Why is the five so much cheaper than the 5c? The camera on the 5c has an extra pixel.

13-09-2013, 23:25	#348
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Quote: Originally Posted by flagpole Why is the five so much cheaper than the 5c? Because the iPhone 5c comes with a premium plastic design.

13-09-2013, 23:27	#349
konebyvax Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ignoringtrollsville Posts: 7,875	Quote: Originally Posted by jabbamk1 Because the iPhone 5c comes with a premium plastic design. Ceramic-like, I've read

13-09-2013, 23:31	#350
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	BREAKING!!!! Apple have released an official statement which explains why the iPhone 5c is more expensive than the iPhone 5 and why the iPhone 5s will be even more expensive on contract. See the full statement below- http://abload.de/img/angry-joe-give-me-mon66zid.gif