Wow £549 for 16GB Iphone 5S bugget Iphone 5C £469

Kenny Maclean · 11-09-2013, 08:48

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Originally Posted by konebyvax

Are Croc historically litigious?

Oh now that's a point. You know if things were reversed, apple would certainly be contacting their lawyers.

kidspud · 11-09-2013, 08:49

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Originally Posted by konebyvax

Android v IOS willy waving aside

, it can't be a great feeling for Apple 5 owners (a phone that cost £529 for chrissakes and is less than a year old) to see that even Apple themselves didn't rate it much. Will this affect resale values?

I can't imagine resale values are effected anymore that when any upgraded device is released.

Kenny Maclean · 11-09-2013, 08:52

THIS is brilliant!

Philip Wales · 11-09-2013, 08:53

Must say underwhelmed by the 5s not actually sure what I was expecting, it's ok but just to expensive for a basic 16gb model. Looks like the Xperia Z1 for me for the next 2 years, then see what the 6s will bring.

thedrewser · 11-09-2013, 08:57

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Originally Posted by Markjuk

Until Apple do the right thing with regards to paying a fair rate of tax I will not entertain the idea of purchasing one of their products.

You're going to find yourself struggling to buy many products if you boycott any company that uses tax loopholes - Apple, Amazon, Starbucks etc etc etc.

kidspud · 11-09-2013, 09:12

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Originally Posted by thedrewser

You're going to find yourself struggling to buy many products if you boycott any company that uses tax loopholes - Apple, Amazon, Starbucks etc etc etc.

And google. I assume the poster doesn't have a smartphone.

konebyvax · 11-09-2013, 09:14

Apple paying less tax than they probably should would be way down my list of reasons not to buy an iPhone, sadly.

swordman · 11-09-2013, 09:42

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Originally Posted by Dan Sette

Why is it a disaster?

You mean was a disaster.. There are plenty of threads explaining why the 5 was rubbish which all turned out to be true.

Stiggles · 11-09-2013, 09:47

Must say i was a bit underwhelmed.

I was kind of hoping they would make a bigger iphone and that it would be a fairly different design. Apart from the home button on the 5S, its identical again which is a shame. I feel the 64bit CPU is nothing but show boating which is something i was told apple didn't like doing!! I don't see it getting used much to its full extent. The fingerprint sensor im unsure of. Clever but pointless. Can only be used for 2 things. Unlock the phone and verifying purchases on itunes. Devs won't have access to it. Seem's a bit of a waste.

The 5C looks terrible. But then i don't like the lumias or the coloured ipods.

As for iOS 7, i don't know what to make of that! They have cheapened the look of it i think. Tiles look absolutely awful.

grumpyoldbat · 11-09-2013, 09:48

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Originally Posted by kidspud

And google. I assume the poster doesn't have a smartphone.

Windows Phone maybe, but not using Vodafone!

clonmult · 11-09-2013, 09:55

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Originally Posted by konebyvax

Apple paying less tax than they probably should would be way down my list of reasons not to buy an iPhone, sadly.

If you could work out a way of paying less tax, you would, wouldn't you? Why should a corporation be any different?

What they're doing is totally legal.

Terry N · 11-09-2013, 10:01

£469 is budget? lol

konebyvax · 11-09-2013, 10:03

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Originally Posted by clonmult

If you could work out a way of paying less tax, you would, wouldn't you? Why should a corporation be any different?

What they're doing is totally legal.

I'm suspecting you didn't fully understand my post?

grumpyoldbat · 11-09-2013, 10:57

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Originally Posted by Terry N

£469 is budget? lol

The thing is, Apple never said anything about releasing a cheap phone. Analysts, media and joe public all speculated it would be a cheap phone. Apple never said a word.

If you look at the keynote, they refer to it as a cheaper phone, but they never say cheap.

The problem that Apple create by allowing all the speculation and never stating what they're doing up front is that they allow the media frenzy to become "fact", and then when they don't deliver exactly what's been speculated, everyone is disappointed!

Faust · 11-09-2013, 10:58

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Originally Posted by RichmondBlue

I appreciate that. But will the 5c really be that much much cheaper in China ? We know it's a gigantic market, but are there really enough young, affluent Chinese to make the 5c a huge hit.
It will still (presumably) be a premium device, wouldn't it have been better to launch a real budget or mid-range phone..thereby bringing tens of millions more customers into the market for the highly sought-after Apple name in China, India, and elsewhere ?

Absolutely not. Apple are taking a huge gamble just by launching the 5c i.e. it may well cannibalise 5s sales. Believe it or not, margins are already pretty tight on smartphones so the last thing Apple need is to further squeeze those margins or devalue the brand by launching an even cheaper iPhone than the 5c.

Faust · 11-09-2013, 11:06

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Originally Posted by slick1two

Plastic iphone for £469?? Euughh

Nothing wrong with a plastic shell if well executed. You can always get the 5S though.

calico_pie · 11-09-2013, 11:30

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Originally Posted by Terry N

£469 is budget? lol

Who said it was budget?

calico_pie · 11-09-2013, 11:31

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Originally Posted by grumpyoldbat

The thing is, Apple never said anything about releasing a cheap phone. Analysts, media and joe public all speculated it would be a cheap phone. Apple never said a word.

If you look at the keynote, they refer to it as a cheaper phone, but they never say cheap.

The problem that Apple create by allowing all the speculation and never stating what they're doing up front is that they allow the media frenzy to become "fact", and then when they don't deliver exactly what's been speculated, everyone is disappointed!

I don't think we can blame Apple for people believing everything they read on the internet about Apple.

calico_pie · 11-09-2013, 11:33

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Originally Posted by swordman

You mean was a disaster.. There are plenty of threads explaining why the 5 was rubbish which all turned out to be true.

Do you have anything more constructive to say other than "the iPhone 5 was rubbish"? Anything? At all?

Whilst it is boring, it is strangely comical watching you post quite as much crap as you do.

calico_pie · 11-09-2013, 11:34

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Originally Posted by konebyvax

I'm suspecting you didn't fully understand my post?

The post where you explained in some detail why Apple pay less tax than other companies?

swordman · 11-09-2013, 11:39

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

Do you have anything more constructive to say other than "the iPhone 5 was rubbish"? Anything? At all?

Whilst it is boring, it is strangely comical watching you post quite as much crap as you do.

You seem very upset... You must own the iPhone 5 Mk 1 I expect I would be upset too.

calico_pie · 11-09-2013, 11:41

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Originally Posted by swordman

You seem very upset... You must own the iPhone 5 Mk 1 I expect I would be upset too.

No, not upset at all. I still have my iPhone 4.

Can you say why it is you think people with an iPhone 5 would be upset?

Mr_Eye · 11-09-2013, 11:51

It is quite amusing to watch the Apple fanboys shit their pants this morning I must.

alanwarwic · 11-09-2013, 11:54

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

Who said it was budget?

Last years screen which in itself was simply a 2 year old screen with a bit more added at the top.

If the punters do not bite they can reduce the price of both the 5c and 5s later. Lucky for them that most punters are semi-captive network contract customers.

swordman · 11-09-2013, 12:02

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

No, not upset at all. I still have my iPhone 4.

Can you say why it is you think people with an iPhone 5 would be upset?

Yeah as they have spent £500 odd or are stuck in a 2 year contract on a phone that has been superceded by the Mk 2 and apple clearly think is substandard and have scrapped it.

I would be so furious only the soothing colours of the 5c would be able to calm me

11-09-2013, 08:48	#101
Kenny Maclean Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Posts: 1,242	Quote: Originally Posted by konebyvax Are Croc historically litigious? Oh now that's a point. You know if things were reversed, apple would certainly be contacting their lawyers.

11-09-2013, 08:49	#102
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by konebyvax Android v IOS willy waving aside , it can't be a great feeling for Apple 5 owners (a phone that cost £529 for chrissakes and is less than a year old) to see that even Apple themselves didn't rate it much. Will this affect resale values? I can't imagine resale values are effected anymore that when any upgraded device is released.

11-09-2013, 08:52	#103
Kenny Maclean Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Posts: 1,242	THIS is brilliant!

11-09-2013, 08:53	#104
Philip Wales Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: South Wales Posts: 5,866	Must say underwhelmed by the 5s not actually sure what I was expecting, it's ok but just to expensive for a basic 16gb model. Looks like the Xperia Z1 for me for the next 2 years, then see what the 6s will bring.

11-09-2013, 08:57	#105
thedrewser Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,818	Quote: Originally Posted by Markjuk Until Apple do the right thing with regards to paying a fair rate of tax I will not entertain the idea of purchasing one of their products. You're going to find yourself struggling to buy many products if you boycott any company that uses tax loopholes - Apple, Amazon, Starbucks etc etc etc.

11-09-2013, 09:12	#106
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by thedrewser You're going to find yourself struggling to buy many products if you boycott any company that uses tax loopholes - Apple, Amazon, Starbucks etc etc etc. And google. I assume the poster doesn't have a smartphone.

11-09-2013, 09:14	#107
konebyvax Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ignoringtrollsville Posts: 7,875	Apple paying less tax than they probably should would be way down my list of reasons not to buy an iPhone, sadly.

11-09-2013, 09:42	#108
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Quote: Originally Posted by Dan Sette Why is it a disaster? You mean was a disaster.. There are plenty of threads explaining why the 5 was rubbish which all turned out to be true.

11-09-2013, 09:47	#109
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Must say i was a bit underwhelmed. I was kind of hoping they would make a bigger iphone and that it would be a fairly different design. Apart from the home button on the 5S, its identical again which is a shame. I feel the 64bit CPU is nothing but show boating which is something i was told apple didn't like doing!! I don't see it getting used much to its full extent. The fingerprint sensor im unsure of. Clever but pointless. Can only be used for 2 things. Unlock the phone and verifying purchases on itunes. Devs won't have access to it. Seem's a bit of a waste. The 5C looks terrible. But then i don't like the lumias or the coloured ipods. As for iOS 7, i don't know what to make of that! They have cheapened the look of it i think. Tiles look absolutely awful.

11-09-2013, 09:48	#110
grumpyoldbat Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,636	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud And google. I assume the poster doesn't have a smartphone. Windows Phone maybe, but not using Vodafone!

11-09-2013, 09:55	#111
clonmult Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,291	Quote: Originally Posted by konebyvax Apple paying less tax than they probably should would be way down my list of reasons not to buy an iPhone, sadly. If you could work out a way of paying less tax, you would, wouldn't you? Why should a corporation be any different? What they're doing is totally legal.

11-09-2013, 10:01	#112
Terry N Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,860	£469 is budget? lol

11-09-2013, 10:03	#113
konebyvax Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ignoringtrollsville Posts: 7,875	Quote: Originally Posted by clonmult If you could work out a way of paying less tax, you would, wouldn't you? Why should a corporation be any different? What they're doing is totally legal. I'm suspecting you didn't fully understand my post?

11-09-2013, 10:57	#114
grumpyoldbat Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,636	Quote: Originally Posted by Terry N £469 is budget? lol The thing is, Apple never said anything about releasing a cheap phone. Analysts, media and joe public all speculated it would be a cheap phone. Apple never said a word. If you look at the keynote, they refer to it as a cheaper phone, but they never say cheap. The problem that Apple create by allowing all the speculation and never stating what they're doing up front is that they allow the media frenzy to become "fact", and then when they don't deliver exactly what's been speculated, everyone is disappointed!

11-09-2013, 10:58	#115
Faust Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: UK Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by RichmondBlue I appreciate that. But will the 5c really be that much much cheaper in China ? We know it's a gigantic market, but are there really enough young, affluent Chinese to make the 5c a huge hit. It will still (presumably) be a premium device, wouldn't it have been better to launch a real budget or mid-range phone..thereby bringing tens of millions more customers into the market for the highly sought-after Apple name in China, India, and elsewhere ? Absolutely not. Apple are taking a huge gamble just by launching the 5c i.e. it may well cannibalise 5s sales. Believe it or not, margins are already pretty tight on smartphones so the last thing Apple need is to further squeeze those margins or devalue the brand by launching an even cheaper iPhone than the 5c.

11-09-2013, 11:06	#116
Faust Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: UK Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by slick1two Plastic iphone for £469?? Euughh Nothing wrong with a plastic shell if well executed. You can always get the 5S though.

11-09-2013, 11:30	#117
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by Terry N £469 is budget? lol Who said it was budget?

11-09-2013, 11:31	#118
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by grumpyoldbat The thing is, Apple never said anything about releasing a cheap phone. Analysts, media and joe public all speculated it would be a cheap phone. Apple never said a word. If you look at the keynote, they refer to it as a cheaper phone, but they never say cheap. The problem that Apple create by allowing all the speculation and never stating what they're doing up front is that they allow the media frenzy to become "fact", and then when they don't deliver exactly what's been speculated, everyone is disappointed! I don't think we can blame Apple for people believing everything they read on the internet about Apple.

11-09-2013, 11:33	#119
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman You mean was a disaster.. There are plenty of threads explaining why the 5 was rubbish which all turned out to be true. Do you have anything more constructive to say other than "the iPhone 5 was rubbish"? Anything? At all? Whilst it is boring, it is strangely comical watching you post quite as much crap as you do.

11-09-2013, 11:34	#120
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by konebyvax I'm suspecting you didn't fully understand my post? The post where you explained in some detail why Apple pay less tax than other companies?

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Wow £549 for 16GB Iphone 5S bugget Iphone 5C £469

11-09-2013, 11:39	#121
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie Do you have anything more constructive to say other than "the iPhone 5 was rubbish"? Anything? At all? Whilst it is boring, it is strangely comical watching you post quite as much crap as you do. You seem very upset... You must own the iPhone 5 Mk 1 I expect I would be upset too.

11-09-2013, 11:41	#122
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman You seem very upset... You must own the iPhone 5 Mk 1 I expect I would be upset too. No, not upset at all. I still have my iPhone 4. Can you say why it is you think people with an iPhone 5 would be upset?

11-09-2013, 11:51	#123
Mr_Eye Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,438	It is quite amusing to watch the Apple fanboys shit their pants this morning I must.

11-09-2013, 11:54	#124
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie Who said it was budget? Last years screen which in itself was simply a 2 year old screen with a bit more added at the top. If the punters do not bite they can reduce the price of both the 5c and 5s later. Lucky for them that most punters are semi-captive network contract customers.

11-09-2013, 12:02	#125
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie No, not upset at all. I still have my iPhone 4. Can you say why it is you think people with an iPhone 5 would be upset? Yeah as they have spent £500 odd or are stuck in a 2 year contract on a phone that has been superceded by the Mk 2 and apple clearly think is substandard and have scrapped it. I would be so furious only the soothing colours of the 5c would be able to calm me