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Old 08-01-2016, 21:43
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Whether or not that's true I doubt it will deter the BBC from using her. More people seem to like her than don't like her and the trend seems to be for a presenting style where words are eased out like they're delivering a child rather than narrative.

You have to admit she knows her subject and presents it in a popular format.
I would suggest that she knows almost nothing about pre-revolutionary Russia and was merely parroting someone else's script.
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Old 08-01-2016, 22:02
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You may enjoy her infantile lickle girly act but I find it risible. She added nothing to the Russian documentary other than her own irritating presence.
A lot of people know a lot more about that period in Russian history than last week, If you think you can do it better then you are welcome to put a proposal into the BBC programme commissioners.
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Old 08-01-2016, 22:09
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I would suggest that she knows almost nothing about pre-revolutionary Russia and was merely parroting someone else's script.
I doubt it very much, I sould like to see some evidence of that rather than just prejudice. She has plenty of academic qualifications and cannot see why she would not research the programmes herself though she will obviously speak to expert as anyone doing research does. She shares the post at HRP with someone else which presumably to give for preparing her programmes.

Interesting how some consider it acceptable to mock someone for a medical condition which she has seen a therapist about. I have never had any problem understanding anything she says.
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Old 08-01-2016, 22:21
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The Russian royals have been well covered by the beeb in recent years.

Lucy is watchable and I enjoyed the first episode.
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Old 08-01-2016, 22:32
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I doubt it very much, I sould like to see some evidence of that rather than just prejudice. She has plenty of academic qualifications and cannot see why she would not research the programmes herself though she will obviously speak to expert as anyone doing research does. She shares the post at HRP with someone else which presumably to give for preparing her programmes.

Interesting how some consider it acceptable to mock someone for a medical condition which she has seen a therapist about. I have never had any problem understanding anything she says.
Me neither. I love her, I think she's great at what she does and presents her programmes in an interesting and enjoyable manner, rather than being blander than magnolia wall paint and sending you to sleep. I find her easy to understand and listen to, at least she sounds intelligent and well spoken, unlike the common as muck vapid wannabes that normally plague trashy ITV shows, sounding like they've got nothing but fresh air between their ears.
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Old 08-01-2016, 22:58
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I doubt it very much, I sould like to see some evidence of that rather than just prejudice. She has plenty of academic qualifications and cannot see why she would not research the programmes herself though she will obviously speak to expert as anyone doing research does. She shares the post at HRP with someone else which presumably to give for preparing her programmes.

Interesting how some consider it acceptable to mock someone for a medical condition which she has seen a therapist about. I have never had any problem understanding anything she says.
Does it say she wrote it? If not then I assume she didn't. At least the almost equally annoying woman who presents the new Egyptian documentary, Joann Fletcher, wrote the script and is an expert in that field.

As someone else said, Worsley is Marmite. Personally, she turns my stomach with her grimacing, childish prancing, gurning, affected delivery and endless obsession with dressing up like some 50-year-old kidult.
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Old 09-01-2016, 00:00
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Controversial but I wasn't a massive fan of her red and black dress.....thought it made her look a little mumsy
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Old 09-01-2016, 00:16
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How fabulous?.

Erm, not much.


Her series are entertaining enough, but rather frothy and light, lacking depth or new understanding. Oh, and she really isn't all that good looking.

If you want a real female historian with depth (and looks), Helen Castor is far superior.
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Old 09-01-2016, 00:22
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Does it say she wrote it? If not then I assume she didn't. At least the almost equally annoying woman who presents the new Egyptian documentary, Joann Fletcher, wrote the script and is an expert in that field.

As someone else said, Worsley is Marmite. Personally, she turns my stomach with her grimacing, childish prancing, gurning, affected delivery and endless obsession with dressing up like some 50-year-old kidult.
Do all similar series llist the presenter as writer, I would have thought it is just taken for granted that they do their own research mainly though bits might be 'subcontracted'.

She works in Royal Palaces so I would think she must have a bit of knowledge! Her DPhil is in 'The Architectural Patronage of William Cavendish, first Duke of Newcastle, 1593–1676'/ Joann Fletcher has a PhD in 'hair and wigs'!

She is a very active on Twitter, with news of what she is doing. Ask her if she writes her own material or just 'reads a script'.
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Old 09-01-2016, 00:23
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Controversial but I wasn't a massive fan of her red and black dress.....thought it made her look a little mumsy
I thought it was to fit with the subject matter?
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Old 09-01-2016, 00:33
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Do all similar series llist the presenter as writer, I would have thought it is just taken for granted that they do their own research mainly though bits might be 'subcontracted'.

She works in Royal Palaces so I would think she must have a bit of knowledge! Her DPhil is in 'The Architectural Patronage of William Cavendish, first Duke of Newcastle, 1593–1676'/ Joann Fletcher has a PhD in 'hair and wigs'!

She is a very active on Twitter, with news of what she is doing. Ask her if she writes her own material or just 'reads a script'.
The PhD is a bit more than hair and wigs, its on the history/culture etc of female appearance in ancient Egypt and all the sub-issues that go along with that.
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Old 09-01-2016, 02:05
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Does it say she wrote it? If not then I assume she didn't. At least the almost equally annoying woman who presents the new Egyptian documentary, Joann Fletcher, wrote the script and is an expert in that field.

As someone else said, Worsley is Marmite. Personally, she turns my stomach with her grimacing, childish prancing, gurning, affected delivery and endless obsession with dressing up like some 50-year-old kidult.
Oh, so Joann Fletcher is annoyng as well? A pattern seems to be emerging here. What is her crime then? "Wrong" accent? Wrong hairstyle?

I was fairly sympathetic with the opnion that Worsley has affected delivery etc, but you are coming across as a bit of a tw*t.
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Old 09-01-2016, 07:22
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I doubt it very much, I sould like to see some evidence of that rather than just prejudice. She has plenty of academic qualifications and cannot see why she would not research the programmes herself though she will obviously speak to expert as anyone doing research does. She shares the post at HRP with someone else which presumably to give for preparing her programmes.

Interesting how some consider it acceptable to mock someone for a medical condition which she has seen a therapist about. I have never had any problem understanding anything she says.
Yes you and your sparring partner kepalmiester sound like the kind of people who would find any attempts at humor "interesting" .

PS I saw that interview and I am sure she said Thewapist Whatever that might be


Attempts being the operative word (there I even saved you the bother of a reply)
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Old 09-01-2016, 07:25
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Here's another household that loves Lucy. We enjoy everything she does.

I can understand people being irritated by her but I don't understand the hate.
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Old 09-01-2016, 07:27
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I doubt it very much, I sould like to see some evidence of that rather than just prejudice. She has plenty of academic qualifications and cannot see why she would not research the programmes herself though she will obviously speak to expert as anyone doing research does. She shares the post at HRP with someone else which presumably to give for preparing her programmes.

Interesting how some consider it acceptable to mock someone for a medical condition which she has seen a therapist about. I have never had any problem understanding anything she says.





Well said.
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Old 09-01-2016, 07:42
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Here's another household that loves Lucy. We enjoy everything she does.

I can understand people being irritated by her but I don't understand the hate.
Oh come on hardly hate how many people call that famous tv presenter Jonathon Woss? I find it quite cute if I am being honest. Go on the reality tv threads if you wish to read pure unfettered irrational hatred People have for those they don't know.
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Old 09-01-2016, 07:52
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I find her utterly repellent


A little more than irritation I would think
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Old 09-01-2016, 08:47
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I watched the Russian thing on iPlayer after I saw it mentioned on this thread. Not one of her better things but okay.

I always avoid answering if asked a lady's age. Good thing I think as after looking at her Wiki entry I guessed she was 12 years older than reality. Though I like her pixie-like face and never found any fault with her speech over many years.
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Old 09-01-2016, 09:09
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I find this Lucy intensely annoying and I get depressed when she is given interesting subject matter which inevitably gets given passionless and tepid treatment. Same goes for Alice Roberts.

Female history presenters don't get better than Nina Ramirez and Joann Fletcher.
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Old 09-01-2016, 10:01
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How fabulous?.

Erm, not much.


Her series are entertaining enough, but rather frothy and light, lacking depth or new understanding. Oh, and she really isn't all that good looking.

If you want a real female historian with depth (and looks), Helen Castor is far superior.
Oh so so true! Just top of the league - even beyond Dr Alice Roberts (super depth and cute) and Dr Janina Ramirez (something about her suggests she`d be a bit wild) but Dr Castor is outstanding
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Old 09-01-2016, 11:00
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Do all similar series llist the presenter as writer, I would have thought it is just taken for granted that they do their own research mainly though bits might be 'subcontracted'.

She works in Royal Palaces so I would think she must have a bit of knowledge! Her DPhil is in 'The Architectural Patronage of William Cavendish, first Duke of Newcastle, 1593–1676'/ Joann Fletcher has a PhD in 'hair and wigs'!

She is a very active on Twitter, with news of what she is doing. Ask her if she writes her own material or just 'reads a script'.
No, if it doesn't say she wrote it then assume she didn't. When documentaries are written by the presenter then it usually says so e.g. Immortal Egypt by Joann Fletcher which, despite my reservations about her, was genuinely interesting. 'Written and presented by'. Same is true for many art documentaries. This Russian one just said 'presented by'. And as I said, it's not Wurzley's field. She just parroted the words and interviewed people with vastly greater knowledge than her.
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Old 09-01-2016, 11:04
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Oh so so true! Just top of the league - even beyond Dr Alice Roberts (super depth and cute) and Dr Janina Ramirez (something about her suggests she`d be a bit wild) but Dr Castor is outstanding
Agree. I actually said while watching the Worlsey thing, "if only Helen Castor was presenting it". But then she's not weird enough for the BBC to use regularly. Worsley fits the bill perfectly in that regard.

Imagine a man acting and dressing like a strange little precocious boy from the 1950s. No TV company would touch him with a bargepole. Or maybe the BBC would. Who knows?
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Old 09-01-2016, 11:22
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And as I said, it's not Wurzley's field. She just parroted the words and interviewed people with vastly greater knowledge than her.
But she is an experienced academic in the same general field of history and a personable presenter who can get the particular experts to share their knowledge. I, for one, would rather that than a Russian historian with thick accent or subtitles.
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Old 09-01-2016, 11:25
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I find this Lucy intensely annoying and I get depressed when she is given interesting subject matter which inevitably gets given passionless and tepid treatment. Same goes for Alice Roberts.

Female history presenters don't get better than Nina Ramirez and Joann Fletcher.
I like Nina Ramirez's programmes and appearances on programmes like Quizeum but I would have said she has far more potentially annoying mannerisms than Lucy Worsley.
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Old 09-01-2016, 11:31
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No, if it doesn't say she wrote it then assume she didn't. When documentaries are written by the presenter then it usually says so e.g. Immortal Egypt by Joann Fletcher which, despite my reservations about her, was genuinely interesting. 'Written and presented by'. Same is true for many art documentaries. This Russian one just said 'presented by'. And as I said, it's not Wurzley's field. She just parroted the words and interviewed people with vastly greater knowledge than her.
I still don't think the lack of 'written by' in the credits is significant, probably just others have bigger egos. I presume you believe that all her books are ghost wrtten? Makes me wonder what she does in all the time she is not working at HRP as reading scripts in front of a camera (presumably off a teleprompter) cannot take up much time.

As I wrote if earlier, just ask her.
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