Are you simply parrotting what you've heard on TV during the series or what some misguided Nadia fans and apologists have posted, or is your second sentence derived from an objective, measurable or proven fact or observation?

you dont need to be a nadia fan to know she feminine.. and yes she is a lot for feminine than some girls i know! I dont think its fair to call her fans misguided just coz you dont agree with what they said.

I note your point. Please note mine.

You are wrong to state that I called her fans misguided. That is too much of a generalisation. My statement was qualified by "some" (not all).

Tell me how you came to the conclusion that " yes she is a lot far feminine than some girls" you know, granted I do not know the "girls" that you do know?

Has it anything to do with the unnatural inflated breasts?

Could it be her chin?

Her flat face?

Could it be her gait, posture or high heels that gave her this "far more" quality?

I know it cannot be her voice.

Oh Iknowicould, you're still stuck on this 'Nadia fans are stupid and I'm ruler of the smart people because I'm smart enough to know not to like her'. You make yourself look stupid by regurgitating your points over and over again and turning topics in to your rant about how much you dislike Nadia. You don't like Nadia, fair enough, that's your choice but Nadia fans do like her [obviously] so going on about how much you dislike her or how much she's a horrible person is just falling on deaf ears so save your finger energy and type to people who give a sh*t. You can go on at me about how much you think I'm wrong but at the end of the day, I'm a Nadia fan and I feel compelled to stick up for her.




This quote is just pathetic and I have no problem with calling you very small minded just from reading it. You must be very, very naive if you think things in the world will go that smoothly. In your world a man or woman will be born, live their life with no problems and then die. I'm sorry but that's a fantasy world you live in.

Every single human egg starts off as female but as the egg is fertilised the mixed DNA determines whether it will either stay as female or change to male - now do you think that every male on this planet is still technically a girl because they started as one to begin with?
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my point exactly. i would really like at least one FM to give me just one good reason why they think she's more feminine than other females they know. what is the definition of femininity?

It is not very nice referring to me in such offensive terms. I take strong exception to this breach of forum rules, particularly as this is not your first time.

You need to get a grip of yourself.

On the subject and biology of Transsexuality, you should learn more about it from Transsexual.org and from past threads if you care to search for them.

It appears that you got yourself in a twist. Nothing in my post contested or disputed her feminity.

Besides, how many non-females go about with breast implants too big for their chests anyway?

This would appear to be a very simple request. It has been made a number of times on the forum but to my knowledge never answered. Perhaps the reason being is that if they ever did provide a definition, I can almost guarantee that a number of "people" with wombs, who had successfully given birth to their own biological children, would suddenly find themselves declassified as women.

It is a strange paradox that Nadia is a woman because she has always felt herself to be such, but non-transsexualwomen are not allowed to regard themselves as being completely feminine on that same basis alone. Instead, they must conform to some arbitary standard of femininity of which Nadia apparently represents the epitome. It is this blatant double-standard that is so irritating.

I don't question Nadia's gender. I expect the same courtesy to be extended to myself and to all women and that our femininity is likewise accepted without question!

i thought it was 'Common Knowledge' that, as individuals, people are NOT 100% made-up of ONE gender..
nature's biological-mission is able to alter and change 'course' at any stage during 'fertilisation to post-puberty',...and has the main-control, in deciding to increase or decrease the amount of mechanics that produce ie: .."female/feminine..male/masculine".
those who percieve 'Nadia' to be a freak of nature, are freaks of nature theirselves..yet somehow, their SNOBBERY believes that 'their' body-bits are a superior/perfect example of "nature's" quest and desire..
smell the coffee!!!....
we're ALL examples of "nature's" trial-attempts at producing an efficient, human, reproductive vessel...
"it's" best attempt being that of the "Hermaphrodite"..
people have an equal-right to make theirselves feel comfortable while being roller-coasted along "nature's" production line.
as for Nadia!...she looks GORGEOUS to me!!...regardless of what other females(glam or plain) look like..
it's SHE that turns me ON!!..drooool!..pure melt-down!)

Oh yuk .... to me she just looks like a drag artist .....

Nothing really femimine about her ...its too exaggerated to be real ....

Boo Hoo.

You should be nice to me. I have never written a bad word about you. Have I?

All true. Whether you like it or not.

And how is your transsexuality awareness this morning?

I am sure that you found the http://transsexual.org/ link useful.

I know I did.

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why are people obsessed with Nadias sexuality?. shes a women , thru and trhu now, what does it matter to anyone anyway?. Why the insistence shes not a women?. What does it matter anyway. If shes wants to be regarded as a women, which she is, then why not?.

Ok, so as you are a stickler for DS forum rules, I take it that telling other users to 'get a grip on themselves' is not in breach of them.
Fair enough.

Personally I think you need to get a grip of yourself my old mate

as a woman- and a mother i must add- i know femininity is a mind thing and not based on physical appearance!! you don't have to try hard at being feminine- pouting included!! also, from a personal viewpoint, i wouldn't associate aggresiveness with femininity (whether or not we have our nicotine fix)!!!

After you.

Good point.

I would imagine a punch or two aimed in the general direction of Jason's face or chest would not score too highly in the feminity stakes either.

Perhaps not, but how satisfying would that be..........

In my opinion, femininity is a mind thing and also based sometimes on physical appearance!!

A bearded lady is still feminine. It was not her choice to have excessive facial hairs.

A cross-dresser in female attire is not exactly feminine.

A drag artist/queen? Whatever! Is Rupaul in drag feminine?

the word you're looking for here is "based". femininity is not BASED on physical appearance- it might have something to do with it though.

I am not a miracle person; I get annoyed by pathetic weasels just as much as the next person. Not that you are a pathetic weasel or anything.

My awareness of transexuality isn't amazing but I know a fair bit due to research. Why are you giving me links to transsexual information sites? Where do you think my awareness of the issue lacks?

and!!!............?

Too aggressive! Too vicious! Too intolerant!

Your emphasis on getting annoyed by pathetic weasels betrays your true emotional state and what you really think of me.

You must believe that you are quite clever to get around the moderators' watchful scrutiny with this ploy to cop another pop at this weasel.

I note that your post was in at 17.16 pm. I am reasonably sure that from that time until quite late, you must have been impatiently awaiting my reply - checking and refeshng the screen every 2 minutes or so.

The way I see it, it matters more to you to have a discussion with me on your favourite subject than it does to me to reciprocate. I really do not care about her at all and she receives my zings in very much the same way as Bez the drughead, the unwanted one and Shell with her striped beaver.

Nadia to me is just a figure of fun.

An object of ridicule. Ballon Breasts.

Totally talentless.

A liar and a fraud.

Why don't you ignore me from now on, since you will avoid the temptation of slinging further offensive remarks my way? It is for your own good and it would make you feel better.

I hope Nadia gets more tv work, Shes a great change and a breath of fresh air. For once BB winner who has charisma and style.
Nadia rocks!!