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When I go on holiday, I have a drink (or three) every night.
Not sure why being in the house should be any different. |
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When I go on holiday, I have a drink (or three) every night.
Not sure why being in the house should be any different. |
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At last - a post I agree with!
I would be wary about making any absolute opinions on any HM in the BB house as it is such a unique environment, but it does seem rather short sighted to diagnose someone as an alcoholic when the only form of entertainment on offer in that house is often alcohol. We see the majority of HMs (who are not teetotal) get way overly excited about the prospect of receiving alcohol in a way that they never would on the outside. I'm sure Carol would be quite happy to spend an evening watching TV, reading a book, playing a game of badminton or a hundred other ways without craving a drink, but none of these activities are on offer in the house. |
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It's actually quite complicated, I remember from my psych rotation there were 2 different types of alcoholism, 1st was alcohol abuse, the 2nd was alcohol dependence, which had 7 different criteria ranging from tolerance levels to effects on the body after cessation.
Then there were 5 different clinical forms of alcoholism, I only remember these were called alpha, beta, gamma, delta, epsilon, with alpha having lesser symptoms and epsilon the greater. There are also different levels of alcoholism based on the effects on the brain, these were rage, delirium, psychosis & encephalopathy. There's a very fine line between a social drinker & a problem drinker. |
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When the socially-retarded, forever-alone, teetotal basement-dwellers say so!
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Thats quite sad.
I don't know why you (and others) are being so puritanical about this - it is quite normal for people to enjoy a drink and many do so, responsibly, every day, including the majority of the HMs during their time in the house.. |
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Not really - it's quite normal!
I don't know why you (and others) are being so puritanical about this - it is quite normal for people to enjoy a drink and many do so, responsibly, every day, including the majority of the HMs during their time in the house.. Their unit calculator is quite an eye opener. |
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when they have alcohol for breakfast
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When I go on holiday, I have a drink (or three) every night.
Not sure why being in the house should be any different. |
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I saw George Best staggering into a club in Curzon Street at 6am once
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Do you start slurring your words and slagging everyone off?
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You haven't read any of the thread, have you? Which makes your post look pretty inappropriate.
The assumption was that this is a gathering of people who have never touched a drop, being sanctimonious and preaching to others about the evil of drinking. The very opposite is true and this thread has been really uplifting - inspirational even. I'd like to add a personal pretendy high-5 to everyone who is beating the battle and a cyber hug to anyone who is struggling. |
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When I go on holiday, I have a drink (or three) every night.
Not sure why being in the house should be any different. And I'm around the same age as her and can promise you that hangovers when you're older last for days - not hours. That alone is enough to put the majority of people off of drinking heavily several night in succession. Carol has been doing this for decades now so I think we're past the point of even cautiously suggesting that she might have an issue with drink. |
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I love a drink in the morning and drink for days straight, doesn't make me an alcoholic.
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I think there is a gaping chasm of difference between having a couple of drinks to socialise/unwind or whatever and drinking with the sole intention of getting plastered.
And I'm around the same age as her and can promise you that hangovers when you're older last for days - not hours. That alone is enough to put the majority of people off of drinking heavily several night in succession. Carol has been doing this for decades now so I think we're past the point of even cautiously suggesting that she might have an issue with drink. Louie said that they really don't get that much (enough for each of them to get slightly tipsy), so I'd probably be after anything I could get too if I was in there.
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Probably not.
The assumption was that this is a gathering of people who have never touched a drop, being sanctimonious and preaching to others about the evil of drinking. The very opposite is true and this thread has been really uplifting - inspirational even.
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another anti Carol thread
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"alcohol dependence", consists of observing the presence, in the time period of 12 months, of three of the seven criteria:
1. Alcohol tolerance – progressive decrease in the desired effect at the same doses; 2. Abstinence syndrome – two or more of the following symptoms, caused by cessation or reduction of consumption from a chronic use: tremor of extremities, autonomic system overactivity (profuse sweating, tachycardia), insomnia, nausea or vomiting, hallucinations, psychomotor agitation, anxiety; 3. Alcohol consumption for a longer period of time than desired; 4. Persistent desire, coupled with the inability to give up drinking; 5. Spending disproportionate amount of resources, time and energy to buy alcohol or to recover after consumption; 6. The presence of negative effects (social, professional) of drinking; 7. Continued use despite awareness of harmful (somatic and psychological) consequences of alcohol. Took that from one of my clinical psychology books. |
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Well, I'm 48, so not much younger, and I wasn't talking specifically about Carol but about drinking in the house. Carol may have a drinking problem, or she may just like to get a bit drunk when she goes out, but I don't think we can judge all that from watching her in the house.
Louie said that they really don't get that much (enough for each of them to get slightly tipsy), so I'd probably be after anything I could get too if I was in there. ![]() As for judging Carol, we make judgments about the HMs all the time without evidence of anything whatsoever so I think it would have been a bit odd had we have witnessed her behaviour for the last 3 weeks and not mentioned her drinking. I don't know how they divvy-up the drink or anything, but assuming that they've all (the ones who drink) had equal access to the booze, the fact remains that Carol is the one who has been drunk the most often - hence the speculation. |
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You didn't read the posts accusing me of having a pickled liver etc. then.
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He actually said 'a bit merry' but things like that and 'slightly tipsy' are euphemisms for being drunk really, aren't they?
As for judging Carol, we make judgments about the HMs all the time without evidence of anything whatsoever so I think it would have been a bit odd had we have witnessed her behaviour for the last 3 weeks and not mentioned her drinking. I don't know how they divvy-up the drink or anything, but assuming that they've all (the ones who drink) had equal access to the booze, the fact remains that Carol is the one who has been drunk the most often - hence the speculation. |
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It's really not something to be proud of you know? So sad how so many think it's funny to be dependant on a drug, guessing if they were falling over, puking and pissing because they'd injected herself with a 'illegal' drug you'd not find it so funny? But purely because it's legal and easily avialable it's just good old fashioned fun....as I said sad.
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Carol is a typical functioning Alcoholic and she is perfectly aware and happy with this situation, it doesn't cause her any problems as such there are many people even on this forum are the same we all need a way to get through life some it's Alcohol some Chocolate or heroin/religion or shopping whatever mine is Cooking (not always eating) but we all need something it's not a problem until it takes over your life or you cant live without it.
Charlotte on the other hand is a Drunk and a badly behaved one at that. |
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Carol is a typical functioning Alcoholic and she is perfectly aware and happy with this situation, it doesn't cause her any problems as such there are many people even on this forum are the same we all need a way to get through life some it's Alcohol some Chocolate or heroin/religion or shopping whatever mine is Cooking (not always eating) but we all need something it's not a problem until it takes over your life or you cant live without it.
Charlotte on the other hand is a Drunk and a badly behaved one at that. Bizarre. |
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I did edit my post, making it longer but whilst on I will come clean, I am an alcoholic, not former not reformed but an alcoholic who thankfully hasn't had a drink for 14 years. I never binge drunk whilst most of my friends around me did but I was the only one who went on to not being able to start the day without a drink. We all view from different sides I guess?
One day at a time ....
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