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Old 14-09-2013, 23:06
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Why have you grown to hate THAT much?
I don't think she's that bad. She has her nice moments. Like helping Liam.
I haven't, mona has Phil. Better ask her.

What happened to Phil will be nowhere near on the same scale of suffering as whatever Carl has planned for Shirley, or what he's already done.
To understand what he's capable of, just remember Ian's hand.
How do you know Is this a spoiler of some kind.

Didn't he try to kill Phil so what can be worse than killing someone.

There is a simple explanation for that phenomenon; it's called misogyny and it is widespread.
Only female characters get vilified to the point of 'inviting' their own death and inspiring sadistic fantasies about being murdered in the most horrific way.
Phil or Carl whose behaviour is a lot more repulsive/immoral than Shirley's don't get such a vicious treatment on this forum.
I know what you mean but I think it's more that people quite like baddies within the arena of an entertainment show. Equally 'bad' female characters get the same kind of eulogising as Phil and Carl it's just that there isn't as many.
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Old 14-09-2013, 23:09
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I Dont hate phil in a way that i want him to leave the show or that hes a rubbish character. I hate him for what hes done to shirl and cant see it staring him in the face - hes too stubborn for that. If he carried on like he did this week and wanted to make shirl happy i wouldnt hate him as much. Thats different than wanting them to have bad stuff happen to them, ive become that way cos of the things hes done in the past
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Old 15-09-2013, 00:15
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There is a simple explanation for that phenomenon; it's called misogyny and it is widespread.
Only female characters get vilified to the point of 'inviting' their own death and inspiring sadistic fantasies about being murdered in the most horrific way.
Phil or Carl whose behaviour is a lot more repulsive/immoral than Shirley's don't get such a vicious treatment on this forum.
I could kiss your feet. Seriously....
You've nailed it.
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Old 15-09-2013, 08:27
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There is a simple explanation for that phenomenon; it's called misogyny and it is widespread.
Only female characters get vilified to the point of 'inviting' their own death and inspiring sadistic fantasies about being murdered in the most horrific way.
Phil or Carl whose behaviour is a lot more repulsive/immoral than Shirley's don't get such a vicious treatment on this forum.
How do you explain similar comments about Michael Moon, Simon Barlow and Ian Beale ? They would suggest that it is not misogyny. Speaking solely for myself, I have made such comments for years. Please explain to me why my relatively equal treatment of male and female characters is misogynistic.

Perhaps you could spend some time talking about soap characters and storylines rather than making personal comments about other posters.
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Old 15-09-2013, 08:44
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When I saw DS had the filming pictures of a funeral, I really thought it was going to be Shirley Carter but luckily not
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Old 15-09-2013, 08:58
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How do you explain similar comments about Michael Moon, Simon Barlow and Ian Beale ? They would suggest that it is not misogyny. Speaking solely for myself, I have made such comments for years. Please explain to me why my relatively equal treatment of male and female characters is misogynistic.

Perhaps you could spend some time talking about soap characters and storylines rather than making personal comments about other posters.
Don't flatter yourself.
I made a general comment on the treatment of female characters on this forum.
They often serve as a canvas for sadistic and/or humiliating sexual scenarios whereas (certain) male characters only get mild ridicule (often accompanied by a disclaimer about the quality of their amazing acting performance)
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Old 15-09-2013, 14:00
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Don't flatter yourself.
I made a general comment on the treatment of female characters on this forum.
They often serve as a canvas for sadistic and/or humiliating sexual scenarios whereas (certain) male characters only get mild ridicule (often accompanied by a disclaimer about the quality of their amazing acting performance)
I'm having this chiseled on my tombstone!

No, but seriously, you're reading my mind and putting it like Thomas Harris
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Old 15-09-2013, 14:10
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I haven't, mona has Phil. Better ask her.



How do you know Is this a spoiler of some kind.

Didn't he try to kill Phil so what can be worse than killing someone.
Erm...Lets see.....
Keeping someone captive for the purpose of torture. I think that's much worse than just getting on with the kill.
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Old 15-09-2013, 14:31
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so does Phil go after Carl again after what he's done to Shirley ? :yawn:
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Old 15-09-2013, 14:35
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so does Phil go after Carl again after what he's done to Shirley ? :yawn:
Probably, and we'll have the never ending cycle of Phil v Carl v Max :yawn:
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Old 15-09-2013, 14:36
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so does Phil go after Carl again after what he's done to Shirley ? :yawn:
After what carls done? I think its more interesting than phil rescuing sharon again lol and the way they left them still hasnt convinced people he loved her. I think if sharon is involved it will make it more interesting
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Old 15-09-2013, 15:45
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There is a simple explanation for that phenomenon; it's called misogyny and it is widespread.
Only female characters get vilified to the point of 'inviting' their own death and inspiring sadistic fantasies about being murdered in the most horrific way.
Phil or Carl whose behaviour is a lot more repulsive/immoral than Shirley's don't get such a vicious treatment on this forum.
I have said it before Mo is an equal opportunities Sadist
Really think you and Catonia are getting stressed out over nothing, Mo always makes remarks like this about Shirley and it doesn't mean anything, Mo is just having a,laugh and does not mean he would wish it on a real life person!

Oh, and Catonia, next time you take someone to task about insults, have a little read through your previous posts:

16/7 "Fat people need to stop eating junk food and exercise more if they are that bothered".

20/12 (directly to another poster) "I hope that was a joke, otherwise I wish you get kidnapped, ass raped and tortured to death slowly by the sickest F' s imaginable and force fed your own intestines before you bleed out as far as I am concerned".

19/7/12 "lola is so annoying "do you know what they do to people who abuse little children in jail "you are a 16 year old pregnant Chav, it's not the same.
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Old 15-09-2013, 15:46
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does mo say the same about anyone else? no its just shirley who gets that treatment
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Old 15-09-2013, 15:48
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does mo say the same about anyone else? no its just shirley who gets that treatment
Of course he does, whatever you do don't mention Leanne Tilsley or Simon Barlow to him.
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Old 15-09-2013, 15:49
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does mo say the same about anyone else? no its just shirley who gets that treatment
Shirley is a,fictional character, she is not a real person, Mo is having a bit of fun

So you slagging Phil off because he crossed Shirley doesn't count?..
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Old 15-09-2013, 15:56
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Shirley is a,fictional character, she is not a real person, Mo is having a bit of fun

So you slagging Phil off because he crossed Shirley doesn't count?..
no it doesnt. hes done some horrible things to her and has such an ego. he knew she loved him from the off

no she isnt but thats what makes it worse. that much hate on one fictional character is strange. i dont even hate sharon that much
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Old 15-09-2013, 15:58
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I'm having this chiseled on my tombstone!

No, but seriously, you're reading my mind and putting it like Thomas Harris
If you can afford it (and it is a luxury) get yourself an education that includes feminist theory. It changes your life.
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Old 15-09-2013, 15:58
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When I saw DS had the filming pictures of a funeral, I really thought it was going to be Shirley Carter but luckily not
who dies ?
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Old 15-09-2013, 16:03
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no it doesnt. hes done some horrible things to her and has such an ego. he knew she loved him from the off

no she isnt but thats what makes it worse. that much hate on one fictional character is strange. i dont even hate sharon that much
Mona, Mo makes the odd tongue in cheek comment about Shirley being in the gutter or two bit lush, the "mutilation" comment was in the same vein, it is a joke.

You create entire threads about your hate for fictional character Phil

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Old 15-09-2013, 16:06
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^ oh yea, forgot about him
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Old 15-09-2013, 16:08
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Mona, Mo makes the odd tongue in cheek comment about Shirley being in the gutter or two bit lush, the "mutilation" comment was in the same vein, it is a joke.

You create entire threads about your hate for fictional character Phil



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i dont make hateful remarks about him though the most i say is that he should die alone which is true. and my hate on him is justified cos shirley is one of my favourite characters and theyre my fav couple. it'll be the same with carl if he kills her if phil rescues shirl and makes her happy then i might be nicer lol
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Old 15-09-2013, 16:12
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i dont make hateful remarks about him though the most i say is that he should die alone which is true. and my hate on him is justified cos shirley is one of my favourite characters and theyre my fav couple. it'll be the same with carl if he kills her if phil rescues shirl and makes her happy then i might be nicer lol
Look I'm not going to get into an argument over another poster you don't get Mo' s humour then fine, nothing more to say
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Old 15-09-2013, 16:15
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Look I'm not going to get into an argument over another poster you don't get Mo' s humour then fine, nothing more to say
lol i actually have her on block cos i dont like them i just saw it in a quote, but like i said she could put the ott ones in spoiler form so we dont have to read it if we dont want to
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Old 15-09-2013, 16:17
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lol i actually have her on block cos i dont like them i just saw it in a quote, but like i said she could put the ott ones in spoiler form so we dont have to read it if we dont want to
Mo is male!
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Old 15-09-2013, 16:19
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shes not. ive seen evidence on twitter shes female. shes pretending to be male
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