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Old 15-09-2013, 16:19
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lol i actually have her on block cos i dont like them i just saw it in a quote, but like i said she could put the ott ones in spoiler form so we dont have to read it if we dont want to
So you expect Mo to put everything he writes in spoiler tags just incase someone quotes him? Good grief.
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Old 15-09-2013, 16:20
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So you expect Mo to put everything he writes in spoiler tags just incase someone quotes him? Good grief.
no the ott comments like the one we had the problem with. it would give me nightmares
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Old 15-09-2013, 16:57
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I'm having this chiseled on my tombstone!

No, but seriously, you're reading my mind and putting it like Thomas Harris
Can I be in your gang ?
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Old 15-09-2013, 17:08
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Don't flatter yourself.
I made a general comment on the treatment of female characters on this forum.
They often serve as a canvas for sadistic and/or humiliating sexual scenarios whereas (certain) male characters only get mild ridicule (often accompanied by a disclaimer about the quality of their amazing acting performance)
So, posters are, in general, misogynists even the ones that don't make misogynistic comments ?
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Old 15-09-2013, 17:08
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Oh i laughed at phil in hospital cos he deserves it and we knew he was always gonna live but i wouldnt say really ott stuff about it
But in your eyes Shirley never seems to deserve anything, when she is clearly the most horrible person on the square.

Why does Phil deserve to be in hospital after nearly dieing and for Shirley to carry on with no come backs, if anyone deserves bad things to happen to them it's Shirley.

Even though in the last few episodes I started to enjoy her more.
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Old 15-09-2013, 17:10
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But in your eyes Shirley never seems to deserve anything, when she is clearly the most horrible person on the square.

Why does Phil deserve to be in hospital after nearly dieing and for Shirley to carry on with no come backs, if anyone deserves bad things to happen to them it's Shirley.

Even though in the last few episodes I started to enjoy her more.
No she isnt, shirl has been nice this week, someone who doesnt have a heart wouldnt be nice the way she was this week. She Can be horrible cos shes been very insecure, mostly down to phil

Cos phil has done horrible things in the past, with no excuses just cos he could and he has an ego. why does shirley deserve it when shes lost her best friend through being murdered and all she ever did was love phil only she was heartbroken 10000x over,
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Old 15-09-2013, 17:13
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No she isnt, shirl has been nice this week, someone who doesnt have a heart wouldnt be nice the way she was this week. She Can be horrible cos shes been very insecure, mostly down to phil

Cos phil has done horrible things in the past, with no excuses just cos he could and he has an ego. why does shirley deserve it when shes lost her best friend through being murdered and all she ever did was love phil only she was heartbroken 10000x over,
Look how she treated her "best friend* and I do mean other things beside that, she deserves pain and possible death, now that's where Carl comes in.

But she will appear next week or something?
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Old 15-09-2013, 17:45
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Look how she treated her "best friend* and I do mean other things beside that, she deserves pain and possible death, now that's where Carl comes in.

But she will appear next week or something?
Exactly Some seem to be under the impression that Shirley isn't supposed to be a hated character Apart from the fact that it is up to the individual viewer who to hate / love I think Shirely is an awful, awful character and I have all sympathy with poster's ideas about Shirley meeting a bad end as this would be thoroughly deserved IMO.

Aside from abandoning her kids it's actually the way she treated Heather that annoys me the most about Shirley and the hypocrisy ever since Heather has died. She has mourned in an over the top fashion the death of her so called best friend Best friend who she bullied and belittled and generally treated like rubbish. Even after her death when she found out Phil's complicity she chose his side over doing the right thing

How anyone can see Shirley as deserving anything other than badness is beyond me tbh
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Old 15-09-2013, 17:50
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Exactly Some seem to be under the impression that Shirley isn't supposed to be a hated character Apart from the fact that it is up to the individual viewer who to hate / love I think Shirely is an awful, awful character and I have all sympathy with poster's ideas about Shirley meeting a bad end as this would be thoroughly deserved IMO.

Aside from abandoning her kids it's actually the way she treated Heather that annoys me the most about Shirley and the hypocrisy ever since Heather has died. She has mourned in an over the top fashion the death of her so called best friend Best friend who she bullied and belittled and generally treated like rubbish. Even after her death when she found out Phil's complicity she chose his side over doing the right thing

How anyone can see Shirley as deserving anything other than badness is beyond me tbh
Cos she was so In love with phil and just wanted to be happy!
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Old 15-09-2013, 17:58
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Cos she was so In love with phil and just wanted to be happy!
So that's an excuse to belittle and treat her best friend like gutter filth?

Come on Mona Shirley does what Shirley does and she walked all over poor Heather, she choose nights out booze and money over Heather, she even refused to be seen in public with her, and that's all because she loved Phil?
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Old 15-09-2013, 18:01
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So that's an excuse to belittle and treat her best friend like gutter filth?

Come on Mona Shirley does what Shirley does and she walked all over poor Heather, she choose nights out booze and money over Heather, she even refused to be seen in public with her, and that's all because she loved Phil?
I never meant those type of things stuff like choosing to help phil when he was on drugs.
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Old 15-09-2013, 18:05
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I never meant those type of things stuff like choosing to help phil when he was on drugs.
Didn't she give him drugs and booze to?

Still no reason to treat poor Heather like that.
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Old 15-09-2013, 18:08
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Didn't she give him drugs and booze to?

Still no reason to treat poor Heather like that.
Cos she was insecure.
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Old 15-09-2013, 18:09
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Cos she was so In love with phil and just wanted to be happy!
I'm not saying there wasn't a reason but grown ups don't abandon family and good friends for a drinking session or a sexual partner and that's the thing about Shirley she has never grown up.

Her wants and needs are greater than anyone else's even those she purports to love and is supposed to take care of.
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Old 15-09-2013, 18:12
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I'm not saying there wasn't a reason but grown ups don't abandon family and good friends for a drinking session or a sexual partner and that's the thing about Shirley she has never grown up.

Her wants and needs are greater than anyone else's even those she purports to love and is supposed to take care of.
And if you haven't found out yet, that is what most people are like. It's called being human.
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Old 15-09-2013, 18:13
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I'm not saying there wasn't a reason but grown ups don't abandon family and good friends for a drinking session or a sexual partner and that's the thing about Shirley she has never grown up.

Her wants and needs are greater than anyone else's even those she purports to love and is supposed to take care of.
I dont know why people give her such a hard time. She was young when she left. Shes made up with carly as she still keeps in touch with her. Dont know about deano as they havent mentioned him but i still think people are way too harsh on her. Is it going to be the same if she returns alive but has been through hell as to what carl does?
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Old 15-09-2013, 18:13
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no the ott comments like the one we had the problem with. it would give me nightmares
So according to who's moral compass should someone 'filter' their posts? Where do you draw the line between what is okay, and what might upset another poster.

Especially in someone like Mo's case where we all know his posts in this vein is all part of the humourous persona.
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Old 15-09-2013, 18:14
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And if you haven't found out yet, that is what most people are like. It's called being human.
What? lol uh must people sod their family and go drinking and sleeping around?
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Old 15-09-2013, 18:15
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So according to who's moral compass should someone 'filter' their posts? Where do you draw the line between what is okay, and what might upset another poster.

Especially in someone like Mo's case where we all know his posts in this vein is all part of the humourous persona.
The type of thing she posted that we didnt like, that someone should be brutally murdered etc and for them to show it. i cant even type it its that gross.
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Old 15-09-2013, 18:16
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The type of thing she posted that we didnt like, that someone should be brutally murdered etc and for them to show it. i cant even type it its that gross.
Did the poster mean Shirley? then yes she should be killed off.
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Old 15-09-2013, 18:18
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What? lol uh must people sod their family and go drinking and sleeping around?
From the characters in ee

Roxy, kat,

Max cheats a lot. Jack doesnt bother with his kids hes more interested in women,

Cora drinks a lot and doesnt bother with her family much
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Old 15-09-2013, 18:18
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The type of thing she posted that we didnt like, that someone should be brutally murdered etc and for them to show it. i cant even type it its that gross.
By we I assume you mean a minority of people who read it and don't take it in the clear humorous context in which it was meant. Just because you find it offensive doesn't mean others would, so why should the barometer of what is acceptable be decided by one person.

For what it's worth I would pay to see the above happen to Shirley.
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Old 15-09-2013, 18:18
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Kill her off,awful character.
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Old 15-09-2013, 18:19
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Did the poster mean Shirley? then yes she should be killed off.
But to show it onscreen so they can laugh at it?
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Old 15-09-2013, 18:19
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What? lol uh must people sod their family and go drinking and sleeping around?
I hate to break it to you but not everyone is conservative.
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